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LFT17

BAE Govan

Apparently all the cranes are being dismantled in the Govan Shipyard so best get pics now before the skyline changes forever.
kev

Took these a couple of weeks ago whilst out testing my new 500mm lens...which if anyone is thinking of getting one its not really worth the money...much better sticking with a 300.Had a load of coins I'd been saving so used them to pay for it
Anyway..




norrie

Hi LFT17, have you any idea as to why the cranes are coming down?
LFT17

norrie wrote:
Hi LFT17, have you any idea as to why the cranes are coming down?


I don't believe they are used any more due various reasons.
norrie

Hi LFT 17, thinking about whats getting built nowadays, is huge parts of ships and those cranes are no use for that
It will be a strange loking shipyard with no cranes
Fjord

Wow! the Govan skyline without the shipyard cranes. The final nail in the coffin for Glasgow's former shipbuilding industry on the upper Clyde. I'll miss their rugged outline as a symbol of what went before.

Here's a few pics I'd taken over the past few years, paying my last respects if you wish. To the future and all that.

 
Summer evening 1989 and an LPG Gas container under construction (one of two that were built IIRC)



Sister ship of the one above in the fitting out basin with the sheds of the former Merklands animal lairage in the foreground. A once typical Clyde shipyard scene.
Taken from the former railway / cycle track on South Street also a more recent victim of the bulldozer.  




December 2001 Just over a decade later this was the view from the roof of the Meadowside Granary. There's been significant changes since.

 

Meadowside Quay and Yorkhill Quay since redeveloped for the Riverside Museum



December 2001 RFA Wave Ruler in the BAE fitting out basin



February 2004 Meadowside Granary all but demolished but the Govan Cranes stand tall.



Govan from the mouth of the River Kelvin, now a slipway and pontoon at the Riverside Museum

norrie

Hi Fjord, great shots from a few years back

Item on the news, re the removing of the cranes, they are not suitable for use nowadays, said BAE
There are fears that this is the end for Govan but BAE said that the cranes were nothing to do with any possible closures, its a seperate matter

I have been told that BAE Govan yard is leased, while BAE Scotstoun is owned by BAE
Time will tell which, if any yards will close
cybers

Might as well stick these in here then ... It will be a shame to see these go many a night spent just looking at their outline against the night sky.


River Lifts by David C Laurie, on Flickr


Setting sun over cranes by David C Laurie, on Flickr


Setting Sun by David C Laurie, on Flickr


Sunset over the river by David C Laurie, on Flickr


Down at the Waterline by David C Laurie, on Flickr
norrie

Former Fairfields yard, 1992


Some of the cranes used to build the ships.
A fair number of the cranes were supplied by Arrols of Dunn St








Note the Arrols Titan? crane to the right.
This was demolished 2007, even though it was a listed item, guess it was of no use to them.
I did hear that the quay was not strong enough for the heavy lifts, not sure if thats is true but thats what I have been told.

norrie

A better shot of the Arrols crane.
Notice The Merklands Quay Granary in the back ground, its long gone

1992





The bow section has still to be joined to the rest of the ship.
Notice the the section next to the bow, weighs 1326 tons, some lift for The Shirlies ;D




The ship on the slipway, still not joined together




A close up of the bow section






Another view of the Arrols crane and the main covered fabrication bays.


Marblez

Feb 2007 Titan is still standing


Legacy of the past by D1gitAl Imagez, on Flickr

Aug 2008 Titan has been demolished


Clyde Built by D1gitAl Imagez, on Flickr
norrie

The Arrols crane in Govan yard being dismantled,October 2007




No date for this photo
Marblez

Aug 2008 Govan cranes with the Whiteinch Hammerhead (last remaining Titan crane in Glasgow) in the distance (right)


Govan cranes by D1gitAl Imagez, on Flickr

Sep 2012 A once common scene on the Clyde about to disappear for good


Changing Clydeside by D1gitAl Imagez, on Flickr
Marblez

norrie wrote:
The Arrols crane in Govan yard being dismantled,October 2007


Norrie I must commend you on your timing of this post ....  
norrie

Hi marblez, ach as its the only shot I have of the dismantling, I thought I would post it anyway

I have others taken a few years ago, my mate took them, I was with him and took loads of photos, alas the film had not been wound on
Marblez

norrie wrote:
Hi marblez, ach as its the only shot I have of the dismantling, I thought I would post it anyway

I have others taken a few years ago, my mate took them, I was with him and took loads of photos, alas the film had not been wound on


Some would call those kinda photies a r t ...    
Marblez

mustang wrote:


Govan/Whiteinch (Early 1980s)
kev

Went down today and asked a wee jumped up security guard could I go onsite and take some pics...knew I would be refused but he was on his high horse wanting to know what paper I worked for. Told him Id served my time in the yard  but he was unimpressed....
They are well by their sell by date looking at them from Glasgow harbour


LFT17

DavidMcD316

Turned into a good thread. Will be a shame to see them go.
norrie

LFT17, thats a good shot of the cranes
kev

Looks like they've started on one of the smaller cranes


norrie

There not hanging about
kev




Marblez

Latest from the Evening Times
norrie

A worrying time for the workforce
Catnip

I'll eventually update this so I can edit out the smudges, but fcuk it. Here's one from a year ago:


Glasgow Harbour by kx48, on Flickr
cybers

Very nice silhouette  
Marblez

Two from tonight


Reflecting on times past by D1gitAl Imagez, on Flickr


End of an era by D1gitAl Imagez, on Flickr
norrie

Hi Marblez, great shots, not a ripple on the Clyde
Marblez

norrie wrote:
Hi Marblez, great shots, not a ripple on the Clyde


Well I did tell you it was a good night for photos earlier bloomin cauld though  
norrie

There will be other nights,and even colder
Stuball


Clyde Crane by stuballscramble, on Flickr


IMG_4445 by stuballscramble, on Flickr


A Dying Breed by stuballscramble, on Flickr
Catnip



BAE to cut possibly more than 1,000 UK shipyard jobs

Quote:
BAE Systems is to cut potentially more than 1,000 jobs from three of its UK shipyards at Govan and Scotstoun in Glasgow and at Portsmouth.

The BBC has learned that major job losses at the yards will be announced by the company later this week.
Some of the jobs being lost may be offset by a contract to build the new Type 26 Global Combat Ship.
BAE Systems, however, has yet to announce which of its UK shipyards will be chosen to carry out the work.

BBC Political Editor Nick Robinson said the announcement by BAE Systems is expected on Thursday morning and will be followed later that day by a Commons statement from the defence secretary.
He understands that BAE's Govan shipyard will not close despite the fact that the possibility has been discussed behind the scenes in recent weeks.
He said a well-placed source had told him that the UK government was "acutely conscious of the politics of the Clyde" ahead of next year's referendum on Scottish independence.
The job losses, he said, will result from the completion of work on the building of two new aircraft carriers and from a huge increase in the costs of that project.

It emerged on Monday that the UK government is planning to announce that it will need to spend an extra 800m on the carriers, taking the total costs to more than 6bn - double the original estimate.
Beyond the carriers there are currently no new orders on the books of the BAE's Glasgow yards at Govan and Scotstoun.
Any job losses, however, may not take effect immediately because some work on the aircraft carriers is planned until 2015.


There are currently 3,200 people employed by BAE across Govan and Scotstoun, and 1,200 employed in shipbuilding at Portsmouth.
Jamie Webster, convenor of the Confederation of Shipbuilding and Engineering Unions at the Govan yard, said he wanted the jobs issue clarified.
He told the BBC: "I do not want to speculate until we get full transparency from BAE Systems and the Ministry of Defence over what they have planned for Govan and Scotstoun shipyards.
"The tension in the yard has been significant and it has been difficult for the workforce. They just want to know what is going on.
"Tomorrow will be a long day waiting for an announcement from the company.

Scottish Finance Secretary John Swinney said he was "seeking urgent clarity on the future for both Govan and Scotstoun".
"We have been in dialogue for some time with BAE Systems on the issues surrounding the future of the Clyde shipyards," he said.
"We are awaiting the outcome of BAE's discussions with the Ministry of Defence, and are very alert to the situation concerning both yards."

Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont, whose Glasgow Pollok constituency includes the Govan yard, said: "Everything must be done to ensure shipbuilding on the Clyde continues.
"The UK government is the Clyde's biggest customer and I will be seeking urgent talks to make sure that continues.
"This will be a particularly worrying time for the workforce and their families but I will work with anyone to make sure we can keep these jobs.
"It's times like these that we all need to come together, put differences aside and fight to secure these vital jobs."
Marblez

Looks like Govan and Scotstoun have a repreive ... for now ...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/bae-syst...bs-britain-111736154.html#RniJFMB

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/new...eds-will-be-axed-141679n.22618503
norrie

Bad news for those losing their jobs good new that the yards in Glasgow will remain, means any rise in orders may mean more staff being taken back on

I am really surprised the Yard in Portsmouth will be closed, felt sure it would be Govan
Marblez

I suppose with the recent investment in the old Fairfield offices it would have been unlikely for them to close Govan but then again it maybe that future plans involve turning the site into some sort of museum IF it were to close
cybers

Well they were never going to close the scottish yards with the threat of independence right around the corner...

I expect westminster to take a hold of the bedroom tax soon and abolish it in scotland first .... To lure idiots in like a trail of Jaffa cakes and try to get them to vote for the union.
nellienaeneck

totally agree cybers, but there are none so blind as those who will not see. if there had not been a referendum next year it would have the clyde that was closed.  
James

cybers wrote:
Well they were never going to close the scottish yards with the threat of independence right around the corner...

I expect westminster to take a hold of the bedroom tax soon and abolish it in scotland first .... To lure idiots in like a trail of Jaffa cakes and try to get them to vote for the union.




James H
Marblez

So if people are not tempted by the jaffa cakes then what will the English do for ships since they are shutting Portsmouth ...

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/new...over-three-years-141799n.22626430
cybers

Korea and the new enemy China....
Seems a bit odd to me that they class China as an enemy when it comes to government and military secrets but are willing to hand them warship contracts.

I think the real enemy is the fecking pen pushers.
Marblez

cybers wrote:
Korea and the new enemy China....
Seems a bit odd to me that they class China as an enemy when it comes to government and military secrets but are willing to hand them warship contracts.

I think the real enemy is the fecking pen pushers.


These was talk of Chinese money being invested in British power plants ... what happens if they start and then decide to pull the plug ? (no pun intended)
sputnik

they had already approached brazil and turkey in 2011 with a view to get them to build the frigates.truth is bae are skint as is the british government.they will only keep the scottish yards open untill they eventually find somewhere to do it cheaper.this was clearly done to stave off independence and to keep them in power.call their bluff big style i say.
Fjord

One of the cranes was taking it's final bow over the Clyde today. It's next move will be to the the scrappy.





Govan Passenger Ferry No.8 bears silent witness to a passing era.  
Catnip

That second pic is chilling as fcuk. Great shot!
Marblez

HMS Defender is in Glasgow for three days and is open to the public

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-25138072
kev

And then there was one



robertpool

a link to my photos of the 'Fairfield Crane' being dismantled.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsiRvxkRw

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