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gittus

Bellahouston Standing Stone

On the 1894 Ordnance Survey plan of Glasgow there is a reference to a Standing Stone in the Bellahouston area as can be seen in the centre of the picture:



This area today is bordered by the end of Fleurs Avenue, the Bellahouston High School Sports Centre and the Cycle Path which skirts the area and runs along the railway line and motorway from Fleurs Avenue to Gower Terrace:



In the interests of research, and because I was bored, I thought i'd go and have a look at the area today and here's what it looks like:









Obviously its pretty overgrown and i'm sure very nice for foxes and rabbits etc. but no sign of any stones standing out of the ground.

I've had a quick look on the internet and cannot find any more information.  If it hadn't been historically documented then it may have easily been removed forever with all the adjacent development.

Do any board members have any more information on this potentially fascinating relic? I admit it could have only been standing for 10 years before the 1894 survey but i'd like to think of it dating back to pre-history!
Gareth1974

Interesting.

I'm sure there must still be traces of the foundations that supported it?

One for Time Team: an excavation might uncover the traces of the foundations and give a clue as to what era they came from?

What is the topography of the area like?  Perhaps it could have been moraine from a glacial movement?
Stuball

Gareth1974 wrote:
Interesting.

I'm sure there must still be traces of the foundations that supported it?


Do standing stones normally have foundations?

gittus, get the boots on and wade in... it's probably still in the somewhere
gittus

Too true Stu!

There's probably a few boulders kicking around in the long grass there.

Which one I would like to identify as a prehistoric standing stone is outwith my field of expertise.

My poor attempt at urban exploration was really designed to find out more information about a feature on a map, however all results will be posted here should I decide to dig out the wellies from the back of the cupboard!
Gareth1974

Depends what you mean by 'foundation.'

If its a modern structure then they may have employed modern techniques and constructed a foundation; maybe simple system of load-bearing aggregates.

If they were prehistoric then they may have been erected in a ditch like structure and there would be inconsistencies in the soil where the voids have been filled in.

Either way I think the evidence you are looking for lies beneath the surface.
Krakenslayer

Hmm, there isn't even any trace of the farm-looking buildings remaining today, not even a ground texture visible from the air. I suspect that the piece of land in question has been comprehensively bulldozed and re-landscaped at some point. I wouldn't hold out much hope of finding that standing stone nestled in there under some bushes, I'm afraid  

It's surprising that there is no record of it anywhere. Maybe someone could find something on it at the Mitchell Library?

EDIT: I was puzzled as to why OS didn't include an icon denoting the exact location of the standing stone. After a quick Google search - which turned up some genealogy sites with people discussing ancestors living at "Standing Stone, Bellahouston" - I'm starting to wonder if Standing Stone isn't in fact the name of the farm itself... If this is the case, any real standing stone might have been long gone even before that census was taken.
Stuball

Maybe this was a mistake entered on purpose by OS... a practice common among map makers to identify copiers
Krakenslayer

Stuball wrote:
Maybe this was a mistake entered on purpose by OS... a practice common among map makers to identify copiers


Possibly. I know A-to-Z maps employ this as a plagiarism protection technique, however I would question whether the OS would, given their original purpose of providing 100% accurate mapping for the MOD. It also doesn't explain the references to "Standing Stone, Bellahouston" as a place of habitation on census and genealogical records online. I think it's the name of the farm.
gittus

Thanks Krakenslayer, I believe you are right.  I'm also interested in Langshot Farm on the 1894 map (now long gone, follow the M77 overlay to where it joins the M8 to the north east of Standing Stone) and the typefaces appear to be the same for these two features ie, they are both farms.  The lack of a specific mark for a historical feature is also compelling.

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