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City of Glasgow Union Railway

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A wander south down the disused sections of the Union Line (also called the Tron line) from 16th May;

Bell Street Bridge - to the left, the former entrance to Gallowgate Station


Telegraph poles lie around the station site


Location of the former southbound platform

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Gap site on Gallowgate (viewed from the bridge), once home to some famous shops and Partick Thistle decoration!



Saltmarket Junction, left to High Street, right to Clydebridge Viaduct
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Above the buildings on Osborne Street, this turnoff once carried through to St. Enoch Station...








...but now stops abruptly above King Street
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Looking back on the branch off Saltmarket Junction, from high above Paddy's Market


Clyde Junction - left to St.Enoch Station, right to Gorbals Station






Quite a few brick-lined holes around here - any ideas as to why?
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Southbound the line heads over the Clydebridge Viaduct (official name according to RailBrit.co.uk), originally a two track bridge, expanded to four and later reduced back to two again






Incredible neo-gothic turrets lie across both sides of the viaduct




Looking up inside a turret
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Great views down the Clyde to the other famous railway bridges








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Dumping ground or safekeeping?


Just above Mosque Avenue some out buildings




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Ballater Street Bridge southbound






Former Cleland Street Bridge in the lead up to Gorbals junction
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Gorbals Junction - back right to the Barrhead and Kilmarnock railway, Gorbals and Southside Stations; back left to Main Street, Cumberland Street, Eglinton Street Stations and the live line!






A glorious view of a freshly cut Gorbals Station




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Southbound towards Pollokshields East Junction


Looking north to Gorbals Junction - Main Street, Cumberland Street and Eglinton Street Stations all branched down to the left, Gorbals Station to the north






Site of Southside Station from the embankment
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Under the new M74 extension








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Barrhead and Kilmarnock railway to Pollokshields East Junction over a bridge at this spot






Some pics of Southside Station and sidings
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James



Fantastic.


James H
Hawick_1987

That has to be one of the finest t'interweb pics ever found!!!  

A great website to clear up any confusion (I certainly was) about what station is what on the southside -  http://www.scotcities.com/railways/southside.htm
Holyjoe

Fantastic pictures, really enjoyed seeing them.

Having just been to New York and having walked the High Line (former elevated goods railway now converted into a public park) this whole stretch is crying out for the same sort of conversion. Should start pestering our two Scottish Euromillions mega-winners for a bit of cash to make it happen  
horza

Great collection there. I've been above the old Gorbals and Cumberland St Train Station before and they've really taken the clippers to the shrubbery. Any idea as to why? Can you now see from the live line down towards the Brazen Head with the cut backs?
Hawick_1987

horza wrote:
Great collection there. I've been above the old Gorbals and Cumberland St Train Station before and they've really taken the clippers to the shrubbery. Any idea as to why? Can you now see from the live line down towards the Brazen Head with the cut backs?


You can but it's quite exposed - workies nearby can spot people a mile off!
DavidMcD316

excellent pictures
tobym

great pictures
mrsam

Much thanks for the pics
Any more planned??
Mr Sam
Hawick_1987

mrsam wrote:
Much thanks for the pics
Any more planned??
Mr Sam


I'm working quite regularly once again, so it might be a few weeks until I get a chance to go urbexing. I have a few locations up my sleeve though  
mrsam

#skanky essex accent used by one of my work colleagues#

Well Gell (one is very jellous of your hidden urbexing)

#/skanky essex accent used by one of my work colleagues#
Hawick_1987

mrsam wrote:
#skanky essex accent used by one of my work colleagues#

Well Gell (one is very jellous of your hidden urbexing)

#/skanky essex accent used by one of my work colleagues#


Mr Sam, you'll be the first to know if I find anywhere interesting!!!  
j_trem

horza wrote:
Great collection there. I've been above the old Gorbals and Cumberland St Train Station before and they've really taken the clippers to the shrubbery. Any idea as to why? Can you now see from the live line down towards the Brazen Head with the cut backs?


Regarding the clipping the trees away I heard that they intend to remove the two disused bridges so they do not have to be maintained.  It would make sense but un-confirmed.

Jonathan
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j_trem wrote:


Regarding the clipping the trees away I heard that they intend to remove the two disused bridges so they do not have to be maintained.  It would make sense but un-confirmed.

Jonathan


It would make sense I suppose  
James

Hawick_1987 wrote:
j_trem wrote:


Regarding the clipping the trees away I heard that they intend to remove the two disused bridges so they do not have to be maintained.  It would make sense but un-confirmed.

Jonathan


It would make sense I suppose  

It would make sense except I see no evidence that they've been maintaining
it - at all! It's all rusty as fcuk and if the line should be put back I'd imagine
it'd be completely replaced, just as they did on the Airdrie to Bathgate renewal.
Lots of the old bridges were still in use when it was a cycle path only to be replaced
when they put the railway back.


James H
norrie

Great photos, I was getting mixed up as to which bridges you were talking of but have got it now
j_trem

Is this section on the photo a carpark or something?

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albu...Union%20Line%20May%202012/028.jpg
James

j_trem wrote:
Is this section on the photo a carpark or something?

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albu...Union%20Line%20May%202012/028.jpg

It became a car park after St Enoch was closed and the tracks uplifted. You can
still see the markings in that area.


James H
j_trem

Thanks.  Was wondering how a car park could have existed in a triangle of tracks but if the tracks were lifted that makes total sense.

BTW I read the rail bridges in the Gorbals would be removed.  The book from 1996 says they are scheduled for removal - looks like a long schedule.
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j_trem wrote:
...looks like a long schedule.


All in good time for Network Fail - the re-opening of the Waverley Line has taken nigh on 20 years so far  
DavidMcD316

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5jeSmZsusM



southbound.

sorry if posted before.
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Good pictures in the abandoned central station lower level thread on glasgow from the past of st enoch
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Bellgrove Station (30/12/12)


Ongoing works at High Street East Junction
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excuse the rubbish screen prints.

find it strange that these bridges still are standing today, despite the lines being shut for decades.

in the clydebank one, the rails are still on it!


Scotstoun:




Clydebank:


Doog Doog

Most of that has been made a walkway/cycleway has it not?
Is that the Dalmuir Riverside branch with the track in situ?
Alycidon

Doog Doog wrote:
Is that the Dalmuir Riverside branch with the track in situ?


Correct DoogDoog, originally part of the Caledonian Railway Lanarkshire and Dumbarton extension, the new spur onto the NB line was put in on 29th September 1965, the line between the junction with the new spur and Yoker was closed 11th October 1976 and the Dalmuir Riverside branch has been out of use since April 1988
IBrown

Well in the first pic the top bridge over Dumbarton Road, Scotstoun is the easiest to answer, because it is part of the Balloch to Glasgow cycle path which makes  use of  disused railway lines and the Forth & Clyde canal towpath. It originally carried the Caley line into Rothesday Dock, but most recently carried the link line from Yoker yard to Kelvin Hall (south) and Old Kilpatrick (north) which remained open for freight after the L&D main line (Caley ‘Riverside line’)  closed. I think that bridge was closed recently for refurbishment?

The bottom bridge is more difficult – no reason for it still to be there – the embankment is gone between there and Yoker. It originally carried the L&D main line (Caley ‘Riverside line’)  and laterally the freight line to Old Kilpatrick (see above).

The second & third pics are of the same bridge over Kilbowie Road, Clydebank. It too originally carried the L&D main line (Caley ‘Riverside line’), then the freight line to Old Kilpatrick (see above) and laterally a new connection off the North Electric line west of Clydebank station to serve Chivas Regal siding at Dalmuir. The whisky traffic was lost to road a good few years back. Again, there appears no reason for it still to be there.
DavidMcD316

Alycidon wrote:
Doog Doog wrote:
Is that the Dalmuir Riverside branch with the track in situ?


Correct DoogDoog, originally part of the Caledonian Railway Lanarkshire and Dumbarton extension, the new spur onto the NB line was put in on 29th September 1965, the line between the junction with the new spur and Yoker was closed 11th October 1976 and the Dalmuir Riverside branch has been out of use since April 1988


didnt realise the branch was closed as late as 1988. we used to walk along it and play on it years ago probably earlier than 1988 as we thought it was long shut. of course the freight would have been hardly on it at all but always a chance i suppose.
sputnik

correct about it being out of use since chivas went all road transit.surprised metal thieves have not been at work on it.
Capercaillie

Probably getting the train down this way tomorrow to take in Dumbarton's game with Dunfermline.
cell

mon the sons!
DavidMcD316

How many, if any of the old stations could possibly be reopened?
IBrown

DavidMcD316 wrote:
How many, if any of the old stations could possibly be reopened?


Assuming it's the Caley Riverside line you are asking about, a lot of the bridges and embankments have been removed, particularly east of Whiteinch and right through Partick. The tunnel under the Expressway and North Electric lines east of Partick station was destroyed, and part of the existing tunnel at Exhibition Centre was blocked (near the Kelvin Hall end) when the Argyle Line was being built. A lot has also been built over - I'm sure the Golden Jubilee Hospital at Dalmuir was built on the old railway ground..

So reckon the chance of any re-opening was lost as far back as the 1970's when the SPTE cancelled most of the previous administration's route reservations.

Pity, because Hyndland to Partick on North Electric Line is at line capacity and prevents services being expanded.
Alycidon

There is talk on the Scot-Rail discussion forum that work is underway on the Clyde Brige, vegetation clearance, painting etc.  Speculation of wires going up, (which I doubt)
Marblez

Ally_M wrote:

City Centre 07 by D1gitAl Imagez, on Flickr


There IS work going on but I am not sure if it involves wires though. Plus there has been a lot of tree clearing south of Gorbals junction on the disused section to Strathbungo junction
Alycidon

Great Photograph,  looks like the bridge is getting a general overhaul and repaint
DavidMcD316

Alycidon wrote:
Great Photograph,  looks like the bridge is getting a general overhaul and repaint


Isnt this line hardly used? so maybe thinking of doing something.
Marblez

More likely to be maintenance and a wee lick of paint ahead of the games next year. The line is still open for freight but only if crossrail ever gets the go ahead will it be reinstated as a passenger line.
Marblez

Two pics of the tree clearing courtesy of Fastnet clearly showing the remains of the platforms of the old Gorbals station closed c.1928


Brazen head. by john.mcknight, on Flickr


Pano. by john.mcknight, on Flickr
Stevie

DavidMcD316 wrote:
Alycidon wrote:
Great Photograph,  looks like the bridge is getting a general overhaul and repaint


Isnt this line hardly used? so maybe thinking of doing something.


david, as a train driver i'd strongly advise against doing it, a live rail line isnt the place to be walking about on, we might have done it years ago (myself included) but these days theyre places to be avoided as theyre just too dangerous, not only that, all train drivers have also been instructed to report anyone on or near the line immediately if theyre not wearing the proper hi vis gear, network rail are sick of the amount of cable theft thats going on & the amount costs to replace it, so the cops will be on you in no time if your spotted, if your caught tresspassing, the fines £1000.

also, this line is still used by empty coaching stock & freight several times a day.
Hawick_1987

Stevie wrote:
DavidMcD316 wrote:
Alycidon wrote:
Great Photograph,  looks like the bridge is getting a general overhaul and repaint


Isnt this line hardly used? so maybe thinking of doing something.


david, as a train driver i'd strongly advise against doing it, a live rail line isnt the place to be walking about on, we might have done it years ago (myself included) but these days theyre places to be avoided as theyre just too dangerous, not only that, all train drivers have also been instructed to report anyone on or near the line immediately if theyre not wearing the proper hi vis gear, network rail are sick of the amount of cable theft thats going on & the amount costs to replace it, so the cops will be on you in no time if your spotted, if your caught tresspassing, the fines £1000.

also, this line is still used by empty coaching stock & freight several times a day.


^^ What he said ^^

I thankfully wasn't caught, but the Police are all over trespassers now, with little or no leniency.
DavidMcD316

Stevie wrote:
DavidMcD316 wrote:
Alycidon wrote:
Great Photograph,  looks like the bridge is getting a general overhaul and repaint


Isnt this line hardly used? so maybe thinking of doing something.


david, as a train driver i'd strongly advise against doing it, a live rail line isnt the place to be walking about on, we might have done it years ago (myself included) but these days theyre places to be avoided as theyre just too dangerous, not only that, all train drivers have also been instructed to report anyone on or near the line immediately if theyre not wearing the proper hi vis gear, network rail are sick of the amount of cable theft thats going on & the amount costs to replace it, so the cops will be on you in no time if your spotted, if your caught tresspassing, the fines £1000.

also, this line is still used by empty coaching stock & freight several times a day.


Sorry, I didnt mean 'I am thinking of doing something', I meant that 'They' are doing something - the council or network rail etc.
I would never go near a live railway! :)
Stevie

sorry David, didnt mean to imply you were, just giving you a heads up  

as for the deforestation work, i can only guess that maybe the tree roots damage or weaken the structure (the viaduct)
Hawick_1987

Just after the bells, I noticed a large team of BAM and Network Rail people out working on the City Union Line, just past High Street Station. They were still there this afternoon - any guesses as to why, other than 'engineering works'?

Marblez

Engineering works would be the obvious answer especially as the line would be closed for New Years Day. If they are still there over the next few days you could wander over for a closer inspection
Hawick_1987

Marblez wrote:
Engineering works would be the obvious answer especially as the line would be closed for New Years Day. If they are still there over the next few days you could wander over for a closer inspection


I'm keeping a low profile around railways at the moment after an 'Adult Letter of Warning' made its way through the post re: Trespassing!  
Marblez

Hawick_1987 wrote:
Marblez wrote:
Engineering works would be the obvious answer especially as the line would be closed for New Years Day. If they are still there over the next few days you could wander over for a closer inspection


I'm keeping a low profile around railways at the moment after an 'Adult Letter of Warning' made its way through the post re: Trespassing!  


Well let us hope it keeps you on the right track .... ... Naw just nip down to Barrack St and keek over the bridge
Doog Doog

Might be to do with work on the castellated bridge...
big_mac

Marblez wrote:
Ally_M wrote:
[img]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/9556946450_f9aecabc05_g[/img]
City Centre 07 by D1gitAl Imagez, on Flickr


There IS work going on but I am not sure if it involves wires though. Plus there has been a lot of tree clearing south of Gorbals junction on the disused section to Strathbungo junction


That bridge (and indeed thecity union line) is being electrified as part of the EGIP works.  The new 380's which will be based at eastfield will use this to get to the maintenence depots at shields and corkerhill in the same way as the diesels currently do
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big_mac wrote:
Marblez wrote:
Ally_M wrote:

City Centre 07 by D1gitAl Imagez, on Flickr


There IS work going on but I am not sure if it involves wires though. Plus there has been a lot of tree clearing south of Gorbals junction on the disused section to Strathbungo junction


That bridge (and indeed thecity union line) is being electrified as part of the EGIP works.  The new 380's which will be based at eastfield will use this to get to the maintenence depots at shields and corkerhill in the same way as the diesels currently do


Cheers for the update  
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