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bigdrew

Council looking at further cuts to services

we are all beginning to read about the potential cut to services by Glasgow City Council, supposedly because of budget restrictions and the need to guarantee services in 2015 and beyond.
We are hearing about some essential services that may have to close as the Council pursestrings get tighter....
Well, here's a thought for you all to ponder...
Even with budgets from the Scottish Parliament to top-up Glasgow's budgets, I fail to understand why since, at least September, there has been such a rapid and unexplained increase  in Roadworks throughout the South Side of Glasgow.
Almost every Monday/Tuesday a new set of men dig holes in the roads and pavements, then place their ever-present cones....and disappear..!
It was always normal to see a plethera of these workings around January/February, when the Council had to spend their excess funds in an annual 'quick spend' of their budgets.
Not only is it disgraceful, allowing workers to build-up their Xmas Bonuses in such a way, but getting dangerous the amount of these roadworks that are now in operation.
If what is now visable throughout the South Side of the City, is being repeated all over the Glasgow, then we indeed have a problem, as the cash involved operating such scandalous schemes MUST be costing other services their safety nets for existance.
It could argued that Glasgow's roads and pavements have been ignored for so long that major remedial work is not enough, and some REAL money needs spending to make them acceptable, after all we cannot hold a Commonwealth Games every year to make the roads look better.
I would be interested in seeing some replies from other areas of Glasgow who are seeing the same thing in their areas.
Between this scandal and the continued support for 'pet Council projects', I am worried that there is NO CASH LEFT to service the ratepayers of this City in 2015.......?
Stuball

Being a south sider, I have to ask where all these holes have been dug? Are they council? It could be any of the utility services and not the council.
cybers

On my travels i have noticed a lot more activity in the city from contractors associated with those fine diggers of holes BT. Is this perhaps the laying of the fibre optic infrastructure to get the city to the internet speeds that bigger businesses crave, though how fast you need it to send a fecking Excel Doc is anyones guess.
bigdrew

contractors or not, council/BT or not, the problem is the vast amount of them all over the South Side...
The main problem being holes appearing suddenly on a Monday/Tuesday, coned off......then nothing till the next Sunday, at the ealiest...
Someone has to be paying for all this work and overtime, and with all these projected cut-backs for 2015.....I think its time questions were asked about the massive expenditure.....regardless of who authorized it..
cybers

Problem is if it is BT or a private contractor then its not a council spend. Utility companies are not council.
Stuball

I must be missing all these holes....
BTJustice

Im with Stuball, I live on the southside, Im a postman, a driver and I do a lot of cycling so Im always out and about and I have noticed no increase in road works.

I did notice a few residential streets getting a re-surface of tar on the roads and pavements around March but nothing else.

Dave.
cybers

So really the title of this thread is a bit of a wet rag. Though I do like the idea of only digging on a Monday and Tuesday as most of the roadworks i experience im my travels for RoyalMail always seem to be biased towards a Friday and mainly on major arteries when its time to get home.
Doog Doog

Good chance its Virgin or BT contractors laying fibre optic cables as they have been down my way. Having said that, I did notice work being done on sunken drain and manhole covers.
Beano

Doog Doog wrote:
I did notice work being done on sunken drain and manhole covers.


Doog, that's the work being done in my scheme mate.
fastnet

Just drove from Cathkin into Buchanan St. and never saw any roadworks.
BTJustice

fastnet wrote:
Just drove from Cathkin into Buchanan St. and never saw any roadworks.


Thats because its Friday and the councillors are dishing out their bonuses before they put out more cones on Monday
bigdrew

roadworks

wet rag here....
Sorry due to illness not been out for a while, however......
Thought maybe the roadworks throughout the South Side were a mirage.....
Not so.....try getting in and out of Sainsbury's at Darnley...
Try getting in and out of Govan, etc. etc. etc.....
Obviously, the landed gentry in Cathcart and associated areas, will NOT accept these roadworks, after all......'what we paid for our houses, and what we pay for our Rates, we wouldn't stand for this locally...'
Also...take a good look at almost every bus stop, where a new concrete bridge has been created....all built on Sundays, holes left open all week long.
...wonder how the self-levelling buses will get on when lowering the front to allow access for disabled etc.
Sorry to rant on, but, your replies seemed to indicate I was haivering but when I drove along the local roads......patchwork quilt work again....!
cybers

Drew while no one doubts the veracity of your claim perhaps its just the roads your using that are affected. I spend most of my time on the M6 and endure 60 miles of roadworks every day out of a 600 mile round trip with speeds lower than a single carriageway in places as they move to so called managed motorways. When they are finished I will breathe easy and enjoy the benefits of the new road. The wet rag reference was more to do with the title of the thread than anything else. You cite bus stops in your latest post which again has nothing to do with the council and these raised pavement works at bus stops are designed with safety in mind. as at normal road speeds a car would struggle to mount the pavement at a Bus Stop whilst making bus travel easier for the disabled who would not then be purely reliant on a self levelling bus for travel. Cathcart has been a hell on earth for a few years with water main replacement and cannot for the life of me figure out why you chose to highlight the area.

I do agree that sometimes they do need to link thier jobs when the hole is opened but if BT/Water/Virgin Media and the council all used the same hole when it was open it would just be a hole longer.
BTJustice

I think the Cathcart thing was aimed at me as thats my location. I will take it but, never been thought of as posh before but there you go.

Drew, you have two arguments on the go.

1, You see lots of roadworks.

2, You somehow think there is a conspiracy by the council to start roadworks on a monday then finish them on a Friday to somehow earn a bonus.

Please prove point 2.

The junction of Clarkston road/ Delvin rd and Newlands road has been disrupted since the start of August so we do get road closures in Cathcart but this has been to paint the railway bridge so nothing to do with the council.

Right, I'm off out on my bike to enjoy the sun. If I see any potholes I will let the council know so they can pay for their Christmas party.

Dave.
bigdrew

the bottom lines is this.....
with lots of intended Government and Council cut-backs to look forward to in 2015, I find it incredible...(irrespective just who actually digs up the roads), that we are seeing an undoubted plethera of these works all over the City.
There has to be some control over it as I, (maybe Southside orientated), see certain sections of road that are more than unsafe as the substructure has been dug-up so many times, that EACH and every winter critical damage is being done to vehicle suspensions, as the road begins to collapse.
The Council has been guilty for years of employing the US method of looking at roads and pavements.....balance the claims against the amount of funding available, (bean counters), therefore letting Councils actually spend less of Government Grants on roads and roadworks, and letting us live in a 'patchwork society'.
NIMBY was a reason I wrote this comment, just because its not outside your own door does not mean its not a problem, I use my Motability car to travel all over Glasgow when possible.....and what I see is GRIM
Charlie Endell

BTJustice wrote:
I think the Cathcart thing was aimed at me as thats my location. I will take it but, never been thought of as posh before but there you go.

Drew, you have two arguments on the go.

1, You see lots of roadworks.

2, You somehow think there is a conspiracy by the council to start roadworks on a monday then finish them on a Friday to somehow earn a bonus.

Please prove point 2.

The junction of Clarkston road/ Delvin rd and Newlands road has been disrupted since the start of August so we do get road closures in Cathcart but this has been to paint the railway bridge so nothing to do with the council.

Right, I'm off out on my bike to enjoy the sun. If I see any potholes I will let the council know so they can pay for their Christmas party.

Dave.

That was a bloody pain! Finally back to 'normality' but I see there's still a wee section in the middle of the railway bridge to he blasted and painted.
Alex Glass

Not the councillor any more so not able to provide all the details but there have been a lot of alterations to bus stops in the Pollok area. The new high kerbs have been put in place at those bus stops without them till now.

There is also work being carried out at the junction leading into Sainsbury's off Nitshill Road.

This junction was altered when Sainsbury's built their extension. This was carried out as part of their consent.

I understand that they realise that the way the junction was laid out caused confusion so there is some realignment taking place.

There are a few other places I have noticed where the Roads Department are carrying out some resurfacing
BTJustice

Charlie Endell wrote:
BTJustice wrote:
I think the Cathcart thing was aimed at me as thats my location. I will take it but, never been thought of as posh before but there you go.

Drew, you have two arguments on the go.

1, You see lots of roadworks.

2, You somehow think there is a conspiracy by the council to start roadworks on a monday then finish them on a Friday to somehow earn a bonus.

Please prove point 2.

The junction of Clarkston road/ Delvin rd and Newlands road has been disrupted since the start of August so we do get road closures in Cathcart but this has been to paint the railway bridge so nothing to do with the council.

Right, I'm off out on my bike to enjoy the sun. If I see any potholes I will let the council know so they can pay for their Christmas party.

Dave.

That was a bloody pain! Finally back to 'normality' but I see there's still a wee section in the middle of the railway bridge to he blasted and painted.


I was thinking that would be the next bit they would work on but they seem to have reinstated the traffic light pole on the island outside the Beechings which will make it difficult to put up scaffolding.

I kinda like the way it looks as if a big wardrobe has been moved and the un decorated bit was found behind it.
BTJustice

bigdrew wrote:
the bottom lines is this.....
with lots of intended Government and Council cut-backs to look forward to in 2015, I find it incredible...(irrespective just who actually digs up the roads), that we are seeing an undoubted plethera of these works all over the City.


If anything, this thread has thrown doubt on your belief that there is a plethera of road works in the city.

bigdrew wrote:
There has to be some control over it as I, (maybe Southside orientated), see certain sections of road that are more than unsafe as the substructure has been dug-up so many times, that EACH and every winter critical damage is being done to vehicle suspensions, as the road begins to collapse.


This to me just highlights the need for the council to spend money where the road has been dug up so many times by utility companies that it needs properly resurfaced taking several days.

bigdrew wrote:
The Council has been guilty for years of employing the US method of looking at roads and pavements.....balance the claims against the amount of funding available, (bean counters), therefore letting Councils actually spend less of Government Grants on roads and roadworks, and letting us live in a 'patchwork society'.


Again I dont want to sound like a council employee but without fact to back this statement up its just an opinion.

bigdrew wrote:
NIMBY was a reason I wrote this comment, just because its not outside your own door does not mean its not a problem, I use my Motability car to travel all over Glasgow when possible.....and what I see is GRIM


I have (taxed and insured) a few cars and I'm a keen cyclist covering the whole city at times so more sensetive to pot holes and bad roads than most and I honestly havent seen mass outbreaks of road works recently. Bus stops are a pain in the bahookie as the busses coming to a halt do tend to rip up the road but when you know this you can account for it.

I would happily see the council fixing problem areas when they arise. As you point out, with the budgets controlled by the "bean counters" do you really think the council are making bonuses from turning a 1-2 day job into a 5 day job?

As Dolly Parton might say If you want the roads, you gotta have the roadworks.


Dave (of the Cathcart landed gentry)
Charlie Endell



BTJustice

I was expecting them to move the scaffolding and finish the middle but they have put back the traffic island and the traffic lights and all the equipment has dissapeared. I imagine they will be back eventually?
Charlie Endell

I received a flyer through the door from Network Rail saying they will be back next year for further works. Can't now remember if it mentioned the railway bridge or not.

As you say, they've restored the traffic island, so it all seems a bit strange!
Charlie Endell

I'm sure these have been on here before -



Did you take the second one, BT?
BTJustice

As its my picture (but seems to have been copied without credit) I can confirm I posted it on the site previously.
Charlie Endell

I thought it was yours! Someone appears to have added it to his flickr account.
BTJustice

Do you have a link to the flickr account and I can have a look incase any more of my pics are there?

I resisted watermarking for so long but had to start marking pics to stop them being theived.
Charlie Endell

Er, sorry, it's yours   !

Apologies if I've not kept to image etiquette here - I need to brush up on the dos and don'ts.

I'm more than happy to remove the image.
BTJustice

 its no problem, it should be fine here and now I know I dont need to go and have a fight with myself about all my photos that have appeared on my flickr  
Charlie Endell

BTJustice wrote:
 its no problem, it should be fine here and now I know I dont need to go and have a fight with myself about all my photos that have appeared on my flickr  





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