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Craigendorn Station From the Past

Some pics of Graigendorn Station From way back when which folks local or localish to the area might find interesting.




A westward view along the island platform of Craigendoran Upper Station on 8th March, 1958, with ex-LNER Class V3 2-6-2T No. 67667 on the left standing at Craigendoran Lower with a train from Helensburgh. Beyond No. 67667 can be seen the lines that ran to Craigendoran Pier Station, with the station buildings and the pier visible above the locomotive. On the right, ex-North British Railway Class L (LNER Class C15) 4-4-2T No. 67460 stands at the upper station with a push-pull train from Arrochar and Tarbet. [W.S. Sellar]



Deputising for the usual railbus, ex-North British Railway Class S (LNER Class J37) 0-6-0 No. 64580 heads a train for Arrochar & Tarbet at Craigendoran Upper Station on 13th August, 1960. The masts and wires of the North Clydeside electrification can be seen above the lines passing through Craigendoran Lower Station, from where the photo was taken. [W.S. Sellar]



Park Royal railbus No. Sc79971 approaches Craigendoran (Upper) station on a working from Arrochar & Tarbet, 11th August, 1960. [Gavin Morrison]



A view of Craigendoran Station in its heyday, with the platform on the left leading down to the steamer terminal. It opened for business under the North British Railway on May 15 1882, and steamer services were finally withdrawn in 1972. The piers have since become derelict, and on the firth side of the line the station buildings are long gone. Image date unknown. [Helensburgh Heritage]



The platform at Craigendoran Station which brought trippers direct to the steamers at the pier, and one steamer can be seen. Both the station and the piers were built in 1882 after a plan to extend the Helensburgh line through the town centre to Helensburgh pier fell through because of local opposition. Image date unknown. [Helensburgh Heritage]


A westward view at the site of Craigendoran Upper Station on 14th September, 1996. The former 'down' line and the platform and station buildings had been removed, and the first station on the West Highland line is now Helensburgh Upper. The magnificent covered footbridge at Craigendoran Lower Station had been replaced by a much less impressive structure, and Craigendoran Pier Station was closed and demolished. [Keith Sanders]



An eastbound Pressed Steel Class AM3 'Blue Train' (Class 303) 3-car EMU stands at Craigendoran Station during January 1978. By this time, Craigendoran Pier Station had been abandoned and boat trains no longer terminated there. Craigendoran Lower Station retained double track and two platforms, and the excuse of 'points failure at Craigendoran due to wind and high tide' had not come to be used for the cancellation of services through the station to Helensburgh. [Eastbank Model Railway Club]




A Pressed Steel Class AM3 'Blue Train' (Class 303) 3-car EMU departs from Craigendoran Station for Airdrie during May 1985. Despite singling of the line between Helensburgh Central and Craigendoran, the staffed ticket office and passenger waiting room remained in situ. [Eastbank Model Railway Club]
gamez fan

Craigendorn Station From the Past

The remains of Craigendorn upper can still be seen however there doesn't seem to be any pics of it online as far as i can tell and of those who have taken pictures of the station over the years none have ventured up to the top platform or well took any pictures if they did so

It's been 25 years since i was last up there myself back then the staircase to the platform was intact as well as the metal railings surrounding them a small section of the platform remains complete with part of a lamppost. Im not sure how it looks nowadays



Notice the railings behind the sign to the left those surround the hidden staircase when you get halfway down the tunnel look to the left
for a gap if you peer over it you'll see the stairs rising up to the former platform
Alycidon

These are all good photographs, however I am sure that they are all subject to copyright and you must obtain the photographers permission before posting them on a forum like this
yokerbrian

Its not wise or responsible to encourage trespassing on Railway Property - stay on the correct side of the fence and within the law.
gamez fan

Alycidon wrote:
These are all good photographs, however I am sure that they are all subject to copyright and you must obtain the photographers permission before posting them on a forum like this


I credited the original owners of the photographs i'll leave it the hands of the site Mods who'll either take to view to remove them or wait till someone complains and then remove them :)

yokerbrian wrote:
Its not wise or responsible to encourage trespassing on Railway Property - stay on the correct side of the fence and within the law.


Hmm lots of posts on here that include pictures taken on Railway Property that are off limits i guess if some people dont Flirt slightly with the Law sometimes we'll never get to see those hidden gems but i take your point i'll edit the above post removing anything where i suggest doing the above
gamez fan

Metal Structures On Seawall

Always wondered what was the purpose..?? of the metal structures which are built onto the seawall in the area where Craigendorn juction seperates
the North Clyde Line with the West Highland Line.Note the rusting old metal platforms just infront of the loco certainly looking at their lococation
i wonder if they were for some sort of goods exchange from Train to Boat..?? Any members on here seen something similar in their locale and
have a better idea of what purpose they fulfilled..???

https://www.railscot.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=14057

Photo by John Robin BTW there was a Doctor who went by that name who worked in the Helensburgh Medical Centre for years really
nice fella i dont suppose it's the same guy and if he's any relation to G H Robin who's archive photographs feature heavily on the
Railscot Site.
Alycidon

I think that these platforms were to access the old semaphore signal gantries that used to be here, given the very shallow water it is unlikely that they had any connecting with shipping.
gamez fan

Alycidon wrote:
I think that these platforms were to access the old semaphore signal gantries that used to be here, given the very shallow water it is unlikely that they had any connecting with shipping.


Yes that sounds correct signals of that type were long gone when i was a boy so in hindsight it makes sense
as to why those platforms remained long after the signals were removed.Also apon further reflection there was
two piers in the area for goods transfers from Rail to Shipping if required Doh.

Thanks for your input.
gamez fan

Last post on Craigendoran from me as im in danger of kicking the a** out of it i always assumed only Steamers and Diesels could access the pier platform but this old pic clearly shows it was infact electrified at some point as we see two class 303 blue trains sitting on that platform with the overhead powerlines clearly visable.I reackon this pic was from the sometime in the 60's seems a waste to have electrified the lines only to remove them completely less than a decade later but that was BR i guess.


http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTMwWDc...VWxlkE/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F

I'll finish with some family folklaw apparantly my great granda drove the first class 303 Electric Train out of Helensburgh central im not sure if it was a test journey or a full passenger service i assume the latter this would have been sometime in the late 50's.
IBrown

gamez fan wrote:
Last post on Craigendoran from me as im in danger of kicking the a** out of it i always assumed only Steamers and Diesels could access the pier platform but this old pic clearly shows it was infact electrified at some point as we see two class 303 blue trains sitting on that platform with the overhead powerlines clearly visable.I reackon this pic was from the sometime in the 60's seems a waste to have electrified the lines only to remove them completely less than a decade later but that was BR i guess.


http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTMwWDc...VWxlkE/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F

I'll finish with some family folklaw apparantly my great granda drove the first class 303 Electric Train out of Helensburgh central im not sure if it was a test journey or a full passenger service i assume the latter this would have been sometime in the late 50's.


I didn't notice this thread was unlocked - I'd last seen it when the West Highland platforms photos were uploaded.

Not a local, but moved there 1967 to work at Helensburgh Central station and was in digs in Station Road, Craigendoran. Pier and original station buildings were then still open, but the West Highland platforms and access to them from the underpass were long gone. I later moved to a house adjacent to West Highland line, moved away from the area for good around 1981 so saw all the changes - worked in the new station building at Craigendoran - Colgrain to the locals - but never in the old..

To answer the question of why remove OHLE on pier lines, I think there's misunderstanding there.  The pier platform line was always wired while the pier remained open.  It was only removed when the pier platform line was removed. Pier Platform Services were EMU to the end.
Alycidon

The Pier Platform services had their own headcode also, trains to the pier would be:
Via Singer Express 81
Via Yoker Express 82
Via Singer Limited Stop 83
Via Yoker Limited Stop 84
Via Singer Stopping 85
Via Yoker Stopping 86
Empty 89
On the timetables I have the pier service only operated on summer Sundays, and ran from Balloch Pier, reversing at Dumbarton.
gamez fan

IBrown wrote:

moved away from the area for good around 1981


You got out at the right time it's been downhill ever since

IBrown wrote:

To answer the question of why remove OHLE on pier lines, I think there's misunderstanding there.  The pier platform line was always wired while the pier remained open.  It was only removed when the pier platform line was removed. Pier Platform Services were EMU to the end.


Certainly the OHLE lines would have remained until that section of the line closed i was more questioning the expense of actually electrifying them in the first place as was proven by the lines closure a decade or so later.I suppose one alternative would have been to remove the pier lines earlier and used platform 2 of craigendorn station for access to the pier steamers


Alycidon wrote:
The Pier Platform services had their own headcode also, trains to the pier would be:
Via Singer Express 81
Via Yoker Express 82
Via Singer Limited Stop 83
Via Yoker Limited Stop 84
Via Singer Stopping 85
Via Yoker Stopping 86
Empty 89
On the timetables I have the pier service only operated on summer Sundays, and ran from Balloch Pier, reversing at Dumbarton.


Thanks for posting this info was interesting to read that.
darrel

gamez fan wrote:
IBrown wrote:

moved away from the area for good around 1981


You got out at the right time it's been downhill ever since

IBrown wrote:

To answer the question of why remove OHLE on pier lines, I think there's misunderstanding there.  The pier platform line was always wired while the pier remained open.  It was only removed when the pier platform line was removed. Pier Platform Services were EMU to the end.


Certainly the OHLE lines would have remained until that section of the line closed i was more questioning the expense of actually electrifying them in the first place as was proven by the lines closure a decade or so later.I suppose one alternative would have been to remove the pier lines earlier and used platform 2 of craigendorn station for access to the pier steamers


Alycidon wrote:
The Pier Platform services had their own headcode also, trains to the pier would be:
Via Singer Express 81
Via Yoker Express 82
Via Singer Limited Stop 83
Via Yoker Limited Stop 84
Via Singer Stopping 85
Via Yoker Stopping 86
Empty 89
On the timetables I have the pier service only operated on summer Sundays, and ran from Balloch Pier, reversing at Dumbarton.


Thanks for posting this info was interesting to read that.

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