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Doog Doog

Crookston, Cardonald & Penilee

Twas suggested that a new thread was started covering the above,so here it is.......

Cardonald Dr.



Crookston Ave at jcn with Cardonald Dr & Moulin Rd.





Moulin Rd.



Hatton Gdns at Moulin Rd.



Cardonald Gdns.



Howford Rd.



Cardonald Place Rd.





Shops on the PRW.



Latimer Path



Hatton Gdns.



Latimer Gdns.



Crookston Ave.





Crookston Court.



Crookston Grove.

John

Nice one Doog, I have a load of Cardonald pics from the College to the Argosy that I took a few months back and will post them up through the week  
Doog Doog

Look forward to seeing them,John.
cybers

Good set there Doog's
As a wee side note i got the shyte kicked out of me at that wee sqaure in Latimer Path by 6 guy's because i spoke to One posh lad's burd at a party...
Who was actually my cousin....

It was quite farcical as both my legs were in plaster at the time and i was extremely drunk.    
sputnik

theres only so many ways you can get plastered,sounds like you were trying to tick all the boxes cybers.
hillmanimp

cybers wrote:
Good set there Doog's
As a wee side note i got the shyte kicked out of me at that wee sqaure in Latimer Path by 6 guy's because i spoke to One posh lad's burd at a party...
Who was actually my cousin....

It was quite farcical as both my legs were in plaster at the time and i was extremely drunk.    


cybers

Do you mean the burd was your cousin, or the posh lad?

Sounds like you got hammered in more ways than one!

Imp

ps  What had you done to get both legs in plaster?
cybers

My cousin was the girl....
The posh lad was a twat.
And the plasters were given to me for crashing a motorcycle and folding both legs 90 degrees the wrong way at the knees  
hillmanimp

cybers wrote:
My cousin was the girl....


I also had a funny episode with a female cousin.

My uncle lived in England and come up to Glasgow one summer with the family.  I was about 16, my female cousin was about a year younger than me.  She was a stunner.  Slim, medium height, beautiful long blond hair, gorgeous face!  I'd have really fancied her if she hadn't been my cousin

She wanted to go out for a walk one evening to get to know the area a bit.  We bumped into a couple of chaps I knew from school and their eyes just about popped out of their heads.  

"Like your girlfiend!" came the comment!  

"She's my cousin!"  

"Aye right!  You don't have to use that as an excuse"  


cybers wrote:
And the plasters were given to me for crashing a motorcycle and folding both legs 90 degrees the wrong way at the knees  



Ouch!   Did it take long to recover from that?

Imp
Doog Doog

cybers wrote:
Good set there Doog's
As a wee side note i got the shyte kicked out of me at that wee sqaure in Latimer Path by 6 guy's because i spoke to One posh lad's burd at a party...
Who was actually my cousin....

It was quite farcical as both my legs were in plaster at the time and i was extremely drunk.    


Those Ralston boys can be tough!!  
John

Doog Doog wrote:
cybers wrote:
Good set there Doog's
As a wee side note i got the shyte kicked out of me at that wee sqaure in Latimer Path by 6 guy's because i spoke to One posh lad's burd at a party...
Who was actually my cousin....

It was quite farcical as both my legs were in plaster at the time and i was extremely drunk.    


Those Ralston boys can be tough!!  


That must be the first time i`ve heard Ralston and tough in the same sentence  
John

Cardonald College Mosspark Drive

Cardonald Cat & Dog Home, 125 Kinnell Drive


Our Lady Of Lourdes R.C. Chapel Lourdes Avenue Cardonald

Our Lady Of Lourdes Lourdes Avenue Cardonald

Inscription by local schoolkids

Chapel hall ? Just Off Lourdes Ave

This hall is intriguing me as I have been searching the web for a place called Henderston that ran between Corkerhill Rd and Berryknowes Rd up to Kinnell Ave from Paisley Rd and there was a place called Halfway House and this is in near enough the right location, I need to talk to the Chapel Clergy and find out what they know.
St Josephs Mill Hill Nursing Home Lourdes Ave

Didn`t get a pic of the nursing home as I was getting severe growls from security, but it`s modern and hardly worthwhile taking, I am more interested in the history if anyone can help.
1613 Paisley Road West William Hill Bookmakers formerly Howdens Bar

Close Up of 1613 P.R.W.

Could be a link to Henderston ?
Doog Doog

Scary,that hall IIRC  was used by the 8th Glasgow scouts.Damaged by fire around 1980,they were temporarily re-homed with the 30th.I had a couple of them in my patrol when I was a patrol leader.
John

Doog Doog wrote:
Scary,that hall IIRC  was used by the 8th Glasgow scouts.Damaged by fire around 1980,they were temporarily re-homed with the 30th.I had a couple of them in my patrol when I was a patrol leader.


I had you in my head as more of a BB man, but it still doesn`t resolve the issue of it`s original purpose.
Doog Doog

Scary, the name Henderston relates to the 3 farms in the Cardonald area,
West Henderston;Mid Henderston and East Henderston.
The area from Corkerhill Rd. to Nazareth House was once the Maryland estate or High Merryland as it was originally known.
I think the nursing home was once a mission that was established at the turn of the century.
John

Cheers for the info Doog I knew of West, Mid and East Henderston from a 1912 map and found it strange that there is no reference or even a street name to acknowledge the previous existence of Henderston in the area today as opposed to Maryland e.g. Maryland Gardens.
Marylands House I think is now the South Western Social & Recreation Club and there was a Merryflats in Drumoyne between Shieldhall Road and the S.G.H.
cybers

Cat and dog home has been through some changes since my last visit.
Used to go here with the wife as part of what seemed like a ritual and give a little something to pay for a few wee dinners.
Not been to the doggy jail for ages they were in the process of doing some long brick kennels last time we were there.

Cardonald College has been tarted up a bit since i was an apprentice.
Pain in the arse it was to get here too as it was 2 days at langside and 1 day at cardonald.
neilmc

I took this photo from the window of my mother's flat in Corse Road, Penilee some time in the early 1980s.

That was the bus terminus, with the school hall (?) in the background.

A shunt involving an Alpine and a MkII Escort:-

Fjord

neilmc wrote:


A shunt involving an Alpine and a MkII Escort:-


Great spur of the moment social scene Neil but you forgot to mention the wean on their Raleigh Tomahawk.
It was my first ever bike albeit a second hand one that needed fixed up but I rode it every day like a cheap tart until some thieving cnut knocked it from outside my house.

Got the third degree from my folks for not locking it up in the first place.    



The chain could do with a bit of 3 in 1 Oil
cybers

Baby chopper...
My sister had the smaller one again The Budgie....
Stuball

It looks really uncomfortable
Fjord

cybers wrote:
Baby chopper...
My sister had the smaller one again The Budgie....


No bad thing the Budgie that's what I learned on in the first place a year or so before I got my own bike. Nae stabilisers either I went for it first time.    



Stuball wrote:
It looks really uncomfortable


Looks are deceptive as anyone that had either a Tomahawk or  the Chopper would testify that it was probably the most comfortable seat going unlike those *razor blades you get on a modern mountain/ road bikes.

(*blagged from a Yellow Pages Advert for those of a certain age)

I was fortunate enough to have a Mk3 Saddle as it was a rebuild (thanks Dad) which had a primitive spring suspension which absorbed the heftiest of bumps which almost sent me to meet my maker due to over confidence of the road conditions... usually involved a very steep hill with a tight left hand bend to negotiate, had sparks off the pedals on more than one occasion.

I'll never forget the look of horror on the face of Driver of the 34 bus to Castlemilk will live with me forever as tore around the corner at Croftoot Road into Castlemilk Road flat out at a decent 30mph with the bike practically on the deck just to get round the corner.

This was long before cycling helmets... my only protective gear was a Six Million Dollar Man T-Shirt and cheap denim jeans and a sarcastic expression on my coupon... Indestructible so I was
cybers

Yup the chopper and tommyhawk were the limos of cycling Stu.
That seat had more padding in it than a wieghtwatchers convention.

Love the description Fjord....
every one who has owned a bike has gotten into that situation long before they made you wear skid lids...
wee minx

Quote:

I've seen that close too John, and had a real good look on the web for any info...not a sossige.  Apart from the local library and the local church, I don't know any other avenue to search...maybe the Mitchell?
It may well be some kind of commemorative plaque marking the boundary of East and West Henderston, with that building purposely built on the divide...just a thought.
sputnik

did raleigh not move on to the grifter after chopper sales began to dwindle.the grifter was i think basically a chopper with drop [racing] handlebars.
Doorstop

Not really .. it was more like a BMX if I remember correctly.

*has a rummage*

John

wee minx wrote:
Quote:

I've seen that close too John, and had a real good look on the web for any info...not a sossige.  Apart from the local library and the local church, I don't know any other avenue to search...maybe the Mitchell?
It may well be some kind of commemorative plaque marking the boundary of East and West Henderston, with that building purposely built on the divide...just a thought.


You may well be right Minxy, local library isn`t up to much on that scale, so I guess the Mitchell would be the place to find that out.
Doog Doog

neilmc wrote:
I took this photo from the window of my mother's flat in Corse Road, Penilee some time in the early 1980s.

That was the bus terminus, with the school hall (?) in the background.

A shunt involving an Alpine and a MkII Escort:-



Neil,that is the dinner hall in the background.
Lunch was in 3 sittings and you rotated every week - 1st 3rd 2nd. If you were near the back of the second sitting or in the third sitting,there was no chance of getting pie,beans & chips!
sputnik

doorstop,thank you for that.im sure there was one though as i described.chopper sprint maybe.wasnt there a chipper as well.
clarkfield

Halfway House.

John, You mentioned Halfway House. That was the name of a public house on the other side of P.R.W. from Howden's pub. It was at the bottom of  a tenement building which stood on it's own. To the East of it was vacant ground, down to the entrance to Craigton cemetery. to the West of it used to be a blacksmith's smiddy. Then open fields where the Moss Heights are now. It was reckoned this was halfway between Glasgow and Paisley.
Hope this helps. Bob.
John

Re: Halfway House.

clarkfield wrote:
John, You mentioned Halfway House. That was the name of a public house on the other side of P.R.W. from Howden's pub. It was at the bottom of  a tenement building which stood on it's own. To the East of it was vacant ground, down to the entrance to Craigton cemetery. to the West of it used to be a blacksmith's smiddy. Then open fields where the Moss Heights are now. It was reckoned this was halfway between Glasgow and Paisley.
Hope this helps. Bob.


I know bits and bobs of that info you have given. I`ve been told there was a pub across from Howden`s, but have no memory of it nor of the tenement.
I do remember a farmhouse type building North of where the tenement would have been roughly where the multie storey is now at 150 Berryknowes Avenue.
I remember a Blacksmith`s at the corner of Mosspark Boulevard and P.R.W. with big wrought iron gates that later became Boyle`s bookmakers then Coral`s and now has new shop units at that site.
The area is still called Halfway to this day by locals.
Thanks for sharing your info
Doog Doog

According to a book on the area,the pub was called Buchanan's. It has a picture,dated 1906 and shows the wee cottage beside the pub.
John

Doog Doog wrote:
According to a book on the area,the pub was called Buchanan's. It has a picture,dated 1906 and shows the wee cottage beside the pub.


Thanks Doog, I was told it was called Howdens and it was a Rangers supporter orientated pub in the 60`s, it then moved across the road and became a Celtic supporter orientated pub.
neilmc

Re: Halfway House.

clarkfield wrote:
John, You mentioned Halfway House. That was the name of a public house on the other side of P.R.W. from Howden's pub. It was at the bottom of  a tenement building which stood on it's own. To the East of it was vacant ground, down to the entrance to Craigton cemetery. to the West of it used to be a blacksmith's smiddy. Then open fields where the Moss Heights are now. It was reckoned this was halfway between Glasgow and Paisley.
Hope this helps. Bob.


Photo on SCRAN:-

http://www.scran.ac.uk/database/r...che=51f3o9uq4w&searchdb=scran

Subscribe if you want to see it full size.
streapadair

I was born in PRW, and my granny lived in Craigton, but I don't have much to contribute to this thread - except that off and on in the 70s I worked as a Co-op milkman (pre-Thatcher days, when jobs were there for the asking), mostly in Craigton, Moss Heights, and Cardonald. Sometimes I took a camera with me on the round, and I could put up the results if anyone's interested (not any time soon, I'm afraid). May be better in a separate thread though, in the 'Glw in the 70s' section, as quite a lot of the material was shot back at the depot in Titwood Rd.
John

Cheers for the pic Neil  

Streapadair, I worked as a milkboy on the old floats in the mid 70`s mostly Pollok, but did Craigton / Cardonald / Moss Heights and Drumoyne quite a few times and was in the Depot at Titwood Rd just about every morning.
Looking forward to seeing your pics in the Glasgow 70`s thread.
Stuball

Moss Heights, last year

streapadair

John, in that case I've got a good selection of shots that'll stir some memories for you.

It'll be at least a month before I manage to post them, but post them I will.
Doog Doog

Cardonald primary (my old school)


View from Angus Oval,looking West.


...Looking South.



Moulin Circus.



Cardonald Place Farm


Cardonald Place Rd.,looking North


Berwick Dr.


Forfar Ave at Berwick Dr.



Kinross Ave at Berwick Dr.


Berwick Dr at Walkerburn Rd.


Walkerburn Rd.

Beano

Doog Doog..crackin ground work my son also great photos.I like this one best (Cardonald Place Farm) any history on the place.    
Doog Doog

Quite a bit,the original farm was called Cardonald Palace farm and belonged to the Royal House of Stewart who owned most of the area.
The current building replaced the original in 1848,two years after it was demolished.
John

I`m sure it was a Mill at one point too Doog.
Doog Doog

John,according to an ordinance survey map dated 1936,the mill is where Moulin circus is now.
John

Spot-on Doog  

On this Google image the land to the right where the new houses are built at Silver Glade was always flooded when I was a nipper, I think that`s where they would have diverted the Cart at the bend to a Lade across the front of the Farmhouse into Moulin Circus and out the other side. Lade Terrace is a bit of a giveaway and I just learned that Moulin is French for Mill, I should have paid more attention at school.
Doog Doog

If you look at the aerial pic,to the right of Silver Glade,you will see a feature that's a straight line,almost joining the railway line.
That's the remnants of the Glasgow,Paisley & Johnstone canal. There was a lade that came off the cart,just down from where the footbridge to Lintaugh Rd is now,to the mill then re-joining the river before the school car park.
John

Cheers Doog, I forgot all about the Canal
Doog Doog

I wonder if this was anything to do with the lade:
Doog Doog

Berwick Dr.looking onto Trinity Ave. with the Tarfside multis in background


Fife Ave. at Berwick Dr.


Selkirk Ave.


Trinity Ave.


Memus Ave.


Labour party rooms,Mosspark Dr.


Cardonald library


Refurbished GHA flats on Selkirk Ave.


Berwick Dr at Walkerburn Rd.,looking West.
Doog Doog

Junction of Forfar Ave,Arbroath Ave & Dundee Dr.


Arbroath Ave.



The B B hall on Dundee Dr.


Dundee Dr.




Baldovie Rd at Dundee Dr.


Dundee Dr at Baldovie Rd.


Mosspark Station entrance,Dundee Dr.
Doog Doog

Kinnell Path from Dundee Dr.


Dundee Path from Dundee Dr.


Kinnell Square from Dundee Dr.


Angus Ave.


Baldovie Rd at Angus Ave.



Inchbrae Rd. at Angus Ave.


Angus Oval.



Angus Oval looking down on Dundee Dr.
Doog Doog

Angus Oval at Angus Place.


Angus Place.


Arbroath Ave at Walkerburn Rd.



Walkerburn Rd at Arbroath Ave.
Beano

Doog...great sets mate    
Doog Doog

Ta much Ben.
Doog Doog

Realised I hadn't done much on this,so I went out today.

Pics are all captioned.









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Beano

DD...great sets mate, your new camera makes for a big improvement in the quality of your photography     well done  
Doog Doog

cheers beano
fastnet

Fantastic stuff doog.......Just recently been posted south so I have been able to take a few pics in that area.

Both from Tarfside flats.



fastnet

Stuball wrote:
Moss Heights, last year





Rear of Moss Heights last week...........  

Doog Doog

Cheers,John.

From what I know,you'll never have a dull moment at the Tarfside flats!
fastnet

Luckily I was just visiting doog......Got more pics today which I will put up later.
Trekkie

Hi guys - I've just joined the forum (after sending links to my sis in NZ). Just wanted to say I was brought up in Pollok and in the late 70's I worked in the Safeway on PRW and in the late 80's I worked in the Cardonald Library. I had an Aunty in Tarfside Oval, attended Cardonald College...........pounded those streets umpteen times. Fond memories. I'm also interested in some other threads as I also worked in Pollokshaws, Darnley and Pollokshields Libraries, have lived in Eastwood - not the posh one - and still have some cousins in Pollok and Crookston.
If anyone remembers the Hester family, please say 'hi' to me.
clarkfield

Re: Halfway House.

neilmc wrote:
clarkfield wrote:
John, You mentioned Halfway House. That was the name of a public house on the other side of P.R.W. from Howden's pub. It was at the bottom of  a tenement building which stood on it's own. To the East of it was vacant ground, down to the entrance to Craigton cemetery. to the West of it used to be a blacksmith's smiddy. Then open fields where the Moss Heights are now. It was reckoned this was halfway between Glasgow and Paisley.
Hope this helps. Bob.


Photo on SCRAN:-

http://www.scran.ac.uk/database/r...che=51f3o9uq4w&searchdb=scran

Subscribe if you want to see it full size.

In that Scran photo, that building behind the Halfway House was where Boyle had his illegal, in those days, betting shop. I quite often went into the Halfway House for a drink as  that was my nearest watering hole. No Quo Vadis or Argosy in those days.  Howden's was across the road at that time. This would have been around the early 50's
clarkfield

Doog Doog great set of photos of Cardonald. Although I lived in the Berryknowes Rd. part of Cardonald I knew all those places you filmed and your captions were brilliant.
Bob.
Doog Doog

I'll try and get more pics this weekend.
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fastnet

Doog Doog wrote:




Cracking pic doog........This was always on my to do list..
fatweegee

Doog Doog wrote:
Angus Oval at Angus Place.


Angus Place.


Arbroath Ave at Walkerburn Rd.



Walkerburn Rd at Arbroath Ave.


My sister and her mans car in that first pic of Angus Oval.......
lewisfair9

Doog Doog wrote:










Ma sisters hoose 3rd picture down
Stuball

I'll be sure to chap her door and ask if she's Lewis' big sister....
lewisfair9

??  
hillmanimp



Hi Doog

Amazing how the memory works!  This photo suddenly dragged a memory back from the 1970s, though it wasn't this police station.  It was the one in Giffnock which seemed to be similar.

What follows is a true story, and though I cannot recall the exact words, the sentiments are accurate.

In the 1970s I worked as an ambulance attendent.  One day we received a call for an old man collapsed in the street in Clarkston, suspected heart attack.

When we arrived, the old man had passed away.  We took him to the Victoria to have his death certified, and then had to take his body to the police station nearest to where he had died to have paperwork done, before taking his body to the mortuary.

While at the police station, an old lady and her son arrived.  She was the wife and was absolutely insistent that she see the body.  I didn't know what to do, and the police man said "It's your van, but I'll come with you."

I opened the back door and went in, followed by the old woman, her son and the policeman.

She took one look at the body and said "Good!"

The policeman and I looked at each other gobsmacked as it wasn't the reaction we had expected.

As she turned away she said something along the lines of "I wanted to see with my own eyes that the old b*st*rd was dead."  She and the son then got into his car and drove off.

The policeman was as stunned as I was.

Just goes to show that you never really know what goes on in other people's lives.

Imp
lewisfair9

Not a great picture, but heres one of the Kelhead path blocks in Penilee all lit up at night, Taken from my back garden...


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