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Stuball

It'll never happen... it's a cash cow in it's current state, simple as
cybers

The Glasgow Wheel looks like it might become a permanent feature.
Its never going to be re-grassed as a green and pleasant space in the city that much is pretty obvious and facebooks never going to change it.
Hawick_1987

Stuball wrote:
It'll never happen... it's a cash cow in it's current state, simple as


Have to agree with Stuball and Cybers there. In an ideal world, yes it would be excellent to have - but reality is a harsh mistress...
Holyjoe

cybers wrote:
The Glasgow Wheel looks like it might become a permanent feature.
Its never going to be re-grassed as a green and pleasant space in the city that much is pretty obvious and facebooks never going to change it.


I was wondering if/when that was going to disappear. No chance of it being relocated to the bank of the Clyde?
cybers

Dunno I merely made a supposition due to the fact Christmas has been and gone Winterfest moved on and two months later they still canny find the spanners for the meccano.
Beano

 better tae stick yon feckin thing doon  near the St Enoch centre  
Ah liked the square wi grass tae then it wiz fur the people noo it's fur yon greedy bassa's in the cooncil  
cybers

Ask about it your told its a health and safety issue which is bollocks. If that was the case why has every park in glasgow not been tore up and the foam rubber slabs been put in their place... Or better yet sold off to a housing contractor to reduce their "Liability"... Oh oops they already tried that latter one with the park that belongs to the people.
BetterGlasgow

cybers wrote:
Dunno I merely made a supposition due to the fact Christmas has been and gone Winterfest moved on and two months later they still canny find the spanners for the meccano.


The wheel is just another private company who have presumably bought the space like anyone else – http://www.greatcityattractions.com. I'd guess that since no-one else had booked the quiet January/February period in George Square they were offered the space for those months too. It'll be gone by March.
Alex Glass

BETTER GLASGOW FOR WHO????????

There are many more events take place for the people of Glasgow and the only time you got the benefit of a bit of grass was when the sun was shining and in Glasgow that is a very rare occurance.

The issue of health and safety refers to when there were events like the switch on of the Christmas lights and New Year and if you remember the Big Day Out when there was a stage set up and the Square was used as a venue on that day. Many more children and their families can get into the Square to watch the Christmas lights being swiched on now because two bits of grass and some trees have been removed. I remember being in the Square to bring-in-the-bells before the grass was removed. The number of people who tripped due to the raised grass areas and you couldn't see where you were stepping it was that jam packed. If a serious accident had happened (like that which happened on New Year in Edinburgh) everyone would have been blaming the Council for not taking account of health and safety.

I am in George Square most days and I don't see lots of unhappy people not using and appreciating the Square. There are lots of people both passing through and stopping to enjoy the open space.

We all have our own opinion about what is good and what is bad but please, please, please don't tell me more people want it returned to a garden that they can't get the full use of. There are more parks in Glasgow where you can go if you want a bit of grass.

Oh and just for the record there is not masses of money made from the events that take place and the Council put more money into them than they get in return.

I try not to get involved in a rant on here. I feel that other views should be heard and just because someone thinks it is a bad thing doesn't mean everyone thinks the same.

Rant over  
cybers

Alex

Calm yir Jets man   Breathe, in and out ... in and out .... Some people just find it hard to accept change ... its the same with Slum tenements to the abomination of back and front door dwellings too modern blah blah blah !!!

Yi canny please them all.
Alex Glass

     

Just having a little sound off my friend  

cybers

I know but yi need to step back and leave it to the professionals every now and again  

I miss the grass squares, Students revising just watching the world go by in the limited sunshine but also know that the city needs to evolve to generate interest, attract events and slaughter the cash cow on the doorstep lest it be damned.  

Step.... step ah sais ya big bugger no STOP noo back in the cage Rossco....  

Whens the whoors going back in Blytheswood Square was a facebook campaign a while back too ... Wondering if it was part of the same order of loneliness that started that one too.
fastnet

What's a whoor ?.....
cybers

No sure maself tried googling it but just kept getting pictures of women in really short skirts .... If thats what it is then i seriously need to get that one signed !!!
fastnet

Just of to google now........
Alex Glass







calm now Cybers      
cybers

Fastnet will be calm too when he comes back .... Might be a wee bit ooty puff but he will be calm lmao...

Now yir here anyways how can a depressing place like Carlisle where everytime I go (Daily) i feel suicidal get voted the happiest place in Britain and has anyone any idea how much a council would need to back hander the judges to achieve such an award when yir toons rank rotten and yir still allowed to kill a scotsman inside the City walls...

Wait i think i might have just answered my own question there  
Doog Doog

cybers wrote:
Fastnet will be calm too when he comes back .... Might be a wee bit ooty puff but he will be calm lmao...

Now yir here anyways how can a depressing place like Carlisle where everytime I go (Daily) i feel suicidal get voted the happiest place in Britain and has anyone any idea how much a council would need to back hander the judges to achieve such an award when yir toons rank rotten and yir still allowed to kill a scotsman inside the City walls...

Wait i think i might have just answered my own question there  

Cybers,that's York yir thinking of,and only with a bow and arrow.
cybers

I don't know about York Doogs, but you can use a Crossbow on a Scotsman in Carlisle after-dark ! Something i get reminded of constantly by the farmer bastards doon there in between them crunching carrots and taking a sh!t in the street.  
fastnet

Calm man.............  
cybers

did yi regain conciousness ... we were getting worried for yi there ...  
fastnet

You were right......There is some goog stuff out there...
AlanM

The shortlisted designs for George Square are on display at the Lighthouse.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-20948763

We have #1 -a big paddling pool thing - elfen safety nightmare and just wrong

#2 Bland and inoffensive (read dull and boring)

#3 Not bad but what is the giant bus shelter all about?

#4 Another not bad but what is that tent thing?

#5 Ewww, what were they thinking with the statue placement

#6 Looks ok - probable winner by default
sputnik

how original,lets put some skooshy water in just the same as nearly every square these days.
cybers

Skooshy jets that wont work after the first 6 weeks and will never be repaired just like the big waterball at the radisson.

I see whatever design is chosen the Statue imbalance will be preserved after all you cant have money spinning gigs with statues getting in the way after all the impact to local businesses by road closures before delivery times for days on end is far more interesting than say sticking the fecking bands on Glasgow Green.

As a wee side note this was in the news today ... funnily enough when i tried to make a delivery on the day of the stupid olympics homecoming i was told to use hanover street. Bearing in mind they closed all the roads off at 5am..

Glasgows Cynical Fines

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/s...ines-in-Glasgow-are-not-fare.html
Hawick_1987

Give me a pen and a pad and i'll draw up a better plan...  
Doog Doog

Put it back to the way it used to be..
To be honest,that 15M could be better spent... Like properly fixing the
pissing roads!
j_trem

I would choose number 6. It isn't unknown for Glasgow City Council to jump on the band wagon but don't bother maintaining things. Number 6 is the best for them I think. To much water features would be filthy and end up not working. Trying not to be too negative.
cybers

The plans been dropped ... Some one might have took one for the team

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-21058651
DavidMcD316

cybers wrote:
The plans been dropped ... Some one might have took one for the team

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-21058651


Lol!

Suppose we should be glad some of those designs enough to make you cry!
Glasgow Loon

At least common sense prevailed which doesnt happen often when councils are involved.
James

Glasgow's George Square to get less 'radical' revamp (© BBC)



A less 'radical' redevelopment of Glasgow's George Square has been unveiled by
the city council after earlier plans sparked a public outcry.


Councillors will consider the new two-stage plan on Thursday. It will entail a
£500,000 resurfacing to remove the red tarmac and provide more grassy areas.
It will be completed before next year's Commonwealth Games. A larger, second
phase will follow after Glasgow 2014, with the final total cost being £15m.

Six designs had originally been commissioned by Glasgow City Council but plans
were scrapped after an adverse public reaction. Council leader Gordon Matheson
said: "The people of Glasgow were very vocal throughout the design competition
that they did not want a radical redesign of the square. They wanted the statues
to remain, the grass to stay and the red tarmac to go. We listened to their views
and have responded."

Grey surface

The council's executive committee will be asked to approve a two-phased approach,
with the first including a new grey surface using epoxy resin replacing the red tarmac.
A more permanent surface could follow, with councillors also being asked to instruct
officers to prepare another paper on proposals for the second phase of the work
to be considered by the committee later this year. The council promises public
consultation on the final surface and treatment.

"Work will begin on phase one of the redeveloped square in July and is scheduled
to run until September," added Councillor Matheson. "The two grass beds on the
western side of the square will be returned, ensuring a greener square at the heart
of our city. We are introducing feature lighting to the statues, the Cenotaph and
trees within the square."

The scheduled completion date of September would allow for suitable commemoration
of Remembrance Day and enable the city's Christmas events to return to the square
this year.



James H
cybers

"The People have spoken"|

The wee tadger was not listening "To the People" till the group rejected HIS preferred idea and then threw the toys out the pram in favour of what the people wanted.
nightfly

This is what it looks like this morning

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DavidMcD316

nightfly wrote:
This is what it looks like this morning

Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos


bit early to put the christmas lights up. so not sure what they are up to.
cybers

Its getting a bit of a refurb though surprised they boxed it all in as they did ... but it was funny watching the guy doing the glasgow tour roundong the corner with his foreigners in tow to be greeted by the hoarding... Guess no one told him


Prison Square by David C Laurie, on Flickr
Hawick_1987

cybers wrote:
the guy doing the glasgow tour roundong the corner with his foreigners in tow to be greeted by the hoarding...




I did wonder. Is this part of the 'look what we didded to the scummy bits' for the Commonwealth Games, or just the fall out from Matheson's troubles?
Hawick_1987

Plan to ban cars from George Square

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-23256210

Private cars could be banned from the north side of George Square under plans drawn up by Glasgow City Council.

The proposal would see a bus gate opened to reduce traffic in the area by up to 70%. Roads bosses also plan to ban all vehicles, except bicycles, from the section of George Square in front of the City Chambers.

They said the moves, which have gone out to consultation, could reduce congestion and pollution in the area. The bus gate would be introduced at the West Nile Street access to Nelson Mandela Place. The council said the changes could also improve bus journey times and reliability in the area.

Emission reductions

The existing taxi rank in Dundas Street would be closed with vehicle access restricted to service vehicles only. However, a new taxi rank with capacity for nine cars is planned on the south side of West George Street between Buchanan Street and Dundas Street.

The east side of George Square, outside the City Chambers, would also be closed to all traffic as part of the order. An area would be set aside on Cochrane Street between Montrose Street and John Street for tourist coaches visiting the city centre to drop off and pick up passengers.

Traffic reduction

Councillor Alistair Watson, executive member for land and environmental services, said: "This bus gate will see a reduction of around 70% in the current level of traffic. As a direct result, there will be a substantial reduction in the degree of congestion and vehicle pollution in the area. The reduction in traffic will also lead to improved pedestrian access to the entrance of Queen Street Station and better access for buses to the busy stops on the north side of West George Street."

Neil Greig, of the Institute of Advanced Motorists, said he would be happy to see a high quality pedestrian area, if a full set of plans were drawn up. He added: "The council is trying to develop the area as a pedestrian location but the proposals are not effective because they have been drawn up bit by bit.

"They need to sort the full plan out once and for all - so everyone knows what is happening. The current proposals will see a loss of parking spaces in the area and traffic congestion moved elsewhere. The council need to deal with these issues."

The public has until Friday 13 September to lodge any objections to the new traffic restrictions.
cybers

Bus gates would make it a 3 pointer for entering even for delivery vehicles out with specified times. Kind of got a certain Irony to it if you look at the fcuk up the council has already made in the city with bus gate at Cathedral St. They will have basically killed all traffic going East from the city thereby justifying the much wanted and rediculous congestion charge they have hidden below the surface. Everyone should raise an objection to this crap.
James

Fears George Square traffic ban will harm businesses (© Evening Times)



A plan to ban private cars from travelling into George Square under a major traffic shake-up
has prompted fears of an impact on trade.


As revealed in yesterday's Evening Times, roads bosses plan to install a bus gate to bar private
cars from Nelson Mandela Place and West George Street. New traffic rules will cut the number
of vehicles using the square by up to 70%.

Today, city businessman Alfredo Crolla, who owns Pizza Crolla at the corner of West George Street
and Buchanan Street, slammed the plans. He said: "The city council are not interested in the
wellbeing of our business. We depend on the passing traffic and business is bad enough as it is,
without any further disruption like this. I'm very against these plans, it will have a huge effect
on our business."

In future, only buses, taxis, private hire cabs and cycles will be able to use the route. Motorists are
likely to be diverted up Hope Street, along Cowcaddens Road and down North Hanover Street. Roads
bosses also plan to ban all vehicles, except cycles, from the section of George Square in front
of the City Chambers, with the existing road raised to the same level as the Square.

Mr Crolla, who also owns Dino's restaurant in Sauchiehall Street, added: "We depend on the
passing traffic, especially later at the night. That's when all the parking spaces are empty, so
customers will park up and pop in and out of the shop. It's like that all night. Also, I need to
drive there to speak to my staff and make deliveries."

Bollards will be installed at each end of the street, which can be retracted to allow access for
emergency services or VIPs visiting the City Chambers. The direction of service vehicles in
Buchanan Street will be reversed between Bath Street and Nelson Mandela Place and between
St Vincent Street and Nelson Mandela Place.

Deputy chief executive of Glasgow Chamber of Commerce Richard Muir said: "George Square
is a hugely important civic space and we welcome measures aimed at improving the experience
for visitors to the city centre. However, any traffic management measures undertaken by
Glasgow City Council need to be part of a co-ordinated approach to city centre transport that
promotes access for all modes including commercial vehicles and the private car. We continue
to work with the city council on the development of the City Centre Strategy.

"Our response to the consultation draft identifies key projects of catalytic importance to ensure
the success of the city centre, and the development of a co-ordinated transport strategy was
included in these. The strategy must recognise the benefits of all modes of transport with the aim
of growing the economy and driving footfall to the city centre – a planned review of city centre
parking, its provision and cost, is also endorsed as an important feature."

Roads bosses say the changes will result in a cut in harmful traffic emissions and improve the
environment for pedestrians. A Glasgow City Council spokesman said: "The proposed bus gate
will promote easier flow of public transport."

The public has until September 13, to lodge any objections.



James H
growler

It'll suit me fine I'm a Black hack, and trying to get round George Square can be a Nightmare, I think in the long run it'll be better for the shops you will have more people walking about the area.  
cybers

It is indeed a nightmare just now as i need to use the place daily. But to force me away from a major financial institution with their day to day paper work will undoubtedly make them think twice about their city centre address. Can you imagine how many couriers messengers ect are in and out of the CB plaza on a daily basis thats not to mention Document destruction. Document storage Royal mail and just plain old disabled passengers. Then there is the access to their own paying the premium for parking garage that they cant access  and thats just one business.

As a hack driver i am sure you will no doubt be aware of the effect this will have on you travelling east when your snared up because everyone else is having to block and entire city centre trying to reach the only two roads that go east.

Cathedral Street and Clyde Street.

By all means let them close off the square in front of the chambers but its only going to lead to a congestion charge for bad road management.
growler

In all honesty it doesn't matter what the council do it will upset somebody, there dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.  
cybers

growler wrote:
In all honesty it doesn't matter what the council do it will upset somebody, there dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.  


This though has to be one of the worst ideas i have heard in a long time and it can only lead to one place and that is the mooted and booted congestion charge. I have lost count of the times i have fallen into a mine navigating that square then the cycle road race happens and theres a fortnights flurry of pure roadworks to highlight their showpiece cycling event. The fact they close down the entire place for these none residential travelling fairs at daft o clock in the A.M then have eejit G4S stand there telling you sorry you cant make that 12 ton delivery. the road closure for the olympic homecoming was an joke 18 hours before the event with no warning.

The roads and transport guy should be executed publicly in the square that would be worth the road closure.
Alex Glass

I wish I could still get photos of the Square from the location inside the City Chambers.

Ah well never mind maybe someone else in ther can get a photo to show us what is happening behind the fence.
Marti

Alex Glass wrote:
I wish I could still get photos of the Square from the location inside the City Chambers.

Ah well never mind maybe someone else in ther can get a photo to show us what is happening behind the fence.


Camera on timer, on an extension pole ...
fastnet

Book a tour....  
nightfly

Alex Glass wrote:
I wish I could still get photos of the Square from the location inside the City Chambers.

Ah well never mind maybe someone else in ther can get a photo to show us what is happening behind the fence.


Had a peek in two days ago & the only thing that I can see is they have moved out all the benches.
Marblez

as of Thursday night ...



nightfly

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nightfly

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DavidMcD316

What is their plans? Considering the binned all the ideas earlier this year.
cybers

To get rid of the soviet red square look make it black or perhaps green.
Leave it exactly as it is then after commonwealth games its rumoured they will increase the grassy areas and return the bloody civic square/park feel to it instead of some fannied up concert venue that the Head councillor originally wanted.
Fat Cat

nightfly wrote:
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Good to see the Clerk of Works overseeing things at the bottom of the picture.
Hawick_1987

Fat Cat wrote:
Good to see the Clerk of Works overseeing things at the bottom of the picture.


And the second nominee for the Urban Glasgow Quote Of 2013 Award is...  
James

Work begins on city square resurfacing (© Evening Times)

Work is expected to begin today replacing the hated red surface of George Square
with grey resin.


As part of the £500,000 scheme experts will also start cleaning the historic statues
which take pride of place in the area. All the statues, with the exception of Sir
Walter Scott, will get new floodlighting.

Lighting the statue of the Scottish author, which sits at the top of the tall stone plinth
in the middle of the square, will be carried out at a later date. It is expected to be
September before the improvement project is completed, the hoardings are taken
down and the public allowed back.

Council bosses have insisted the square must be back in full use by Remembrance
Sunday in November.

A council spokesman said: "Work will start on laying the surface starting at the
Cenotaph end with timescales for completion dependant on weather conditions. All
of the new floodlighting and the majority of the dedicated statue lighting is now in
place with the cleaning of the statues due to begin this week."

Council leader Gordon Matheson had hoped the square would get a £15million revamp
in time for the Commonwealth Games. An international design competition was held
and a scheme by Glasgow-born architect John McAslan was announced as the winner.

But within minutes, Mr Matheson said the council would not go ahead with the design.



James H
mani

Anybody like to see the square extended right up to the city chambers
Stuball

mani wrote:
Anybody like to see the square extended right up to the city chambers


???

Could you expand on that question please
cybers

The road outside the chambers is to be closed to all traffic except civic vehicles Stu ... I think this is the original question ... And my answer is no as I honestly believe they are cutting off the East End to commuters and business users alike.

I can see no other ways back into the east apart from Cathedral Street and Clyde Street so forcing that much traffic into that small space means Glasgow can reinstate the plans of the "Congestion Charge" they crave even though they will have engineered the problem themselves.

Bad planning and bad traffic management hand in hand yet again.
Alex Glass









James

Glasgow is losing its red Square - at last (© Evening Times)



Work has finally started to replace the hated red Tarmac surface of George Square with grey resin.


And today council chiefs insisted the historic area will be open to the public in time for the Bank of
Scotland Great Scottish Run at the start of October. Work on cleaning the statues and ensuring they will
be lit up at night has been completed, and floodlights have been installed to make the square bright
and welcoming during the dark evenings.

Glasgow City Council's spokeswoman for jobs and the economy Liz Cameron visited the area to see
the transformation herself. She said: "When we unveil it to the public I think they will be pleasantly
surprised at what we have done to make it look wonderful. The difference between the red Tarmac and
the grey epoxy resin is night to day because it is a light grey which looks classier. The Cenotaph has been
cleaned and much of the large greenery around it cut back and it looks beautiful. Also, a lot of work has
gone into levelling the square so it has been extremely complex process."

The Bank of Scotland Great Scottish Run is the largest mass participation event in Scotland. Andy Mitchelmore
of organisers Nova International said: "George Square is such an iconic location and has been the home
to the start line for years. We are delighted the resurfacing work will be completed in time, giving the Square
a fresh, new look for October 5 and 6. Last year 24,000 people participated in the run and we are on
track to achieve similar numbers this year. The half marathon - the new route for which will incorporate six
of the Commonwealth Games venues - will be broadcast live across the UK on BBC 2 for the first time. It
will showcase the city's most famous and new sights to thousands of viewers."

A council spokesman said: "The programme of improve-ments is progressing well to enable George Square to
host the annual Remembrance Day ceremony and Christmas celebrations. Once completed, the works will also
allow the square to project an inspiring image of Glasgow to the world throughout the 2014 Commonwealth
Games. A grey epoxy resin surface is currently taking the place of the unpopular and faded red Tarmac.
Two new grass beds are already progressing well on the western side of the square which will ensure a
greener square at the heart of our city."



James H
James




James H
Marblez

Hmmm ... funny how they started working a w a y from the City Chambers ... eh Alex
Alex Glass

Ally_M wrote:
Hmmm ... funny how they started working a w a y from the City Chambers ... eh Alex


Nothing funny about it Ally it would have been built in to the programme from the start  
Marblez

Alex, so when they turned George Square into Red Square did they start tarring from the Eastern Bloc too ?    
James





James H
DavidMcD316

Was it the late 90s they turned it red?
what bright spark came up with that idea?
dustmite

On George Square and iconoclasm

I wonder if it was meant to evoke the famous Red Roads of (South) Lanarkshire, which used to be such a feature of that area.  Few extant stretches of it remain, I think about a decade ago I travelled along some still red bits going from Moffat to Leadhills and the old couple I was driving down recalled that they used to holiday down that way as children and the red roads marked their arrival, signalled a lightening of spirit -remembering breaking into song, the holiday atmosphere being loosed instantly then and years later, simply by the change in the road colour.

Is it time to review the assorted statuary cluttering up the square?  I'm sure there must be many who are looked on retrospectively as despots and not war 'heroes' but war criminals, bloodthirsty tyrants and monsters their commemoration being attributable more to sycophancy than merit or morals.

Modern day war criminals like New Labour's Blair creature, and most of his cabinet, will I'm sure never be remembered except with horror and revulsion, and might yet hopefully still end their days on the end of a rope.  Cameron and Hague are already assured of their place in history as epic mass-murderers and the present unconvincing false-flag script we're being subjected to, beating the drums for war with Syria, with the BBC particularly telling the big lie, and telling it often enough, with the rest of the mass-media too, as culpable for not tearing to shreds the tissue of lies we've been subjected to for almost two years, over Syria, their next and perhaps greatest malign folly.  The truth there is that up to 25,000 foreign mercenaries, financed, amed and trained by the UK, US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Quatar - the same crowd of religious extrmeist jihadists, we created to justify the war on terror, are the cause of all the trouble, and have indiscriminately destroyed the schools, hospitals, commercial and industrial infrastructure of what was once a stable secular multi-faith socialist democracy, as was Iraq, at our urging and direction, our foreign policy echoing Washington's and their's set in Tel Aviv.

With yet another false-flag claim of CW use by the Syrian government fizzling out, as a sceptical public get wise and simply scoff at the depravity and mendaciousness of our elected dictatorship as they try engineer escalation of another criminally insane war, trotting out tired discredited justifications, we dig deep for alternative news sources, eschewing mindless constant sport and other banalities rammed constantly down out throats, and find truths almost too disturbing to contemplate much less confront.  We are living in times where the British state is in the iron grip of naked fascism, rampant criminality, tainting Scots and Scotland too, dragging us along with them into eternal international disgrace and disgust that will weigh heavily, guiltily on us and on future generations of Scots, who will wonder how we sat back and let them get away with it for so long.

I say esteemed figures of the British State, Queen Victoria and Prince Albert are prime candidates amongst the George Square relics, symbols  of a detestable but lingering empire mentality of which Scotland was, after Ireland, an early victim, and their statues should be ceremonially or unceremonially tossed into the Clyde; it's high time Glasgow gave the Westminster cabal and London establishment a bloody nose with some futile but fun gesture that will burst their bubble and shatter expectations of Scotland's subservience: no longer, not ever again to be taken for granted.
Alex Glass

For six happy years we have managed to avoid having political views expressed on here.

The views expressed are best posted on the many available political forums which I am sure would endorse your views.

For the record the red tar was first introduced in 1998. It wasn't politically driven and the then Leader of the Council made a very public apology because there was no public consultation to the changes which took place then.
Marblez

Alex Glass wrote:

For the record the red tar was first introduced in 1998. It wasn't politically driven and the then Leader of the Council made a very public apology because there was no public consultation to the changes which took place then.


A lesson which seems to have been heeded by those tasked with the same position today.

There was a recent competition to redevelop this famous square, of which the designs were placed before the people of Glasgow in a public consultation to decide on a "winner".

It is my understanding that the majority of Glaswegians were in favour of retaining the status quo and ALL the designs have since been rejected

It would seem to me that on this occasion it has been the people who have decided to retain the square as it is and not the council and while I have no objections to anyone having an opinion on such matters, I would ask them to respect the decision which has been made by the majority of their fellow citizens
Alex Glass

I am one of the minority who doesn't agree with removing the tar and putting back some grass.

We have loads of parks in Glasgow and with the weather we get there will be very few occasions where people will get the opportunity to sit down on the grass without getting their bum wet.

I would have liked it left as it is. Having walked through the square almost every week day for 12 years I seen lots of people enjoying the facilities available in the square. There were times not including events when the Square was busy with tourists and others making the most of the all to infrequent hot sunny days. I have walked through when the rain has been chucking down and there are very few people in the square but I have also taken photos of the Square at a variety of times.

However the work has begun and will hopefully be finished soon so that everyone can get back to walking through the Square on there way to wherever they are going.
cybers

Well from a strictly personal point of view I wanted the grass back but mainly because it was part of my growing up sitting on the grass chatting to the dames. Its kind of sad to think Glasgow sells itself as "The Dear Green Place" then builds or concretes over every piece of greenery it can lay siege to. Must be fantastic coming here as a visitor and the first thing you see is that bloody eyesore of a square. Why the initiative was never taken up when the Doulton was refurbed and should IMHO been transplanted to the western side of the square where the old Tourist Information sat is beyond comprehension. The square was Glasgows first park but seems to be more a business proposition to the highest bidder these days. There is plenty of spaces for concerts about the only one i like is Christmas not the Rebranded Winterfest to appease god knows who ... There seems to be the consensus that this makes it more accessible to others... No one ever said it was beyond their reach as Christmas. The very ethos of christianity is social inclusion after all we are not the Westboro Baptist Lunatics. We have an acceptance of all things.
(Except unwarranted change maybe)
Alex Glass

Like your suggestion about the Doulton Fountain Cybers  
Marblez

I think having the fountain in the square would result in a lot more things getting wet than just bums Alex .... especially on a Friday and Saturday night  ...
Alex Glass

       

maybe even remove the Walter Scott column and replace it with the fountain.

Would be fun to watch what happens during key times of celebration like New Year, winning at international football.  
cybers

Thing is its kind of a hidden secret where it is just now it could be so much more after all how many European cities play to the strength of a good fountain in the square. We have one up on most of them by having the largest terracotta fountain in the world gifted to the city by the world famous Sir Henry Doulton.

It would have caused another argument or two though..

Like why it was moved from its home of 120+ years to the city centre
and How to re-route cables to a feckless concert    
Marblez

TBH I always thought there were only three things wring with the square

1/ George House      
2/ The extension to the NB (Millenium?) Hotel which blocks the glass arch of Queen St station
3/ The red tarmac (which looks like they made use of the excess after installing all the red bus lanes)

One down ... two to go

PS Maybe they could install underground channels for all those cables before laying the new surface  
Alex Glass

The have already buried cables

There were significant plans to alter the George House building which I am sure finally got planning permission. However it looks like the only thing they did was lower the entrance. the atrium within George House is claimed to be public space. Ho sure how many people would go through the door just for a look or a seat.

I also thought there were plans to alter the extention of the Hotel in front of Queen Street Station and this was also given planning permission.

However just receiving planning permission doesnt mean the changes will necessarliy be made.

Can anyon tell me how to put a watermark on a photo. I want to post some photos of the Doulton Fountain but they need protecting.
busdriver

Alex Glass wrote:


Can anyon tell me how to put a watermark on a photo. I want to post some photos of the Doulton Fountain but they need protecting.



This advice may be useful:- Photoshop
Alex Glass

thanks Busdriver

Will give it a try hopefully I can follow the instructions.
cybers

Record the action Alex followig this tutorial once saved it will show up in the batch processing options where you can add a watermark to entire folders of images at the click of your mouse. It reads pretty daunting but I assure you its pretty easy to follow.

http://www.ripperdesignandmultime...g-a-watermark-to-multiple-images/
James



https://twitter.com/Glasgow_Chamber/status/377080740925956096/photo/1


James H
norrie

Hi james, looking good, pity about the building to the left
Good to see the statues are still in place
cybers

I actually quite like the brutal feel to the building on the left its the poor upkeep of that god-damned hotel just out of shot on the left that really lets the square down in my opinion
nightfly

Open for business

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calamity

The Globe Hotel George Square

Does anyone know where this hotel stood , never heard of it..till I saw this old ad    http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertpool/3176223753/in/photostream/
Gina

I found a few references to it but nothing more specific than George Square.
According to this newspaper notice it went out of business in 1858!

schiehallion

The Globe Hotel stood at the corner of George Square nearest Queen St Station on the site of what is now Merchant's House (which ironically enough has a globe on the roof).
Fjord

Prior to that it was known as the George Hotel c.1840
Queen Street Station has yet to appear although it looks like ground works are progress, it opened in 1842.




cybers

I am struggling with this now surely the ground work has nothing to do with Queen Street Station and The George Hotel is on the now location of the City Chambers ? With the Ramshorn visible behind it and the Clock of Hutcheson Hall unless the bold fella on his column turned for a better view.
Fjord

Aye your right enough...!  you know me and my sh!t geography though  
AlanM

cybers wrote:
I am struggling with this now surely the ground work has nothing to do with Queen Street Station and The George Hotel is on the now location of the City Chambers ? With the Ramshorn visible behind it and the Clock of Hutcheson Hall unless the bold fella on his column turned for a better view.


So the ground works will be the GPO?
chic

I' m not sure, as HPO didn't open until 1878, I think. it's certainly the right place.

Chic
Glasweegie

George Hotel

Fjord, where did you find the 1840 photo. I guess it's now in public domain?
cybers

Re: George Hotel

Glasweegie wrote:
Fjord, where did you find the 1840 photo. I guess it's now in public domain?


There is no such thing.
calamity

Oh I see Ive been shifted... I had thought the Globe Hotel came under Glasgow From the past but see Im wrong... thanks for all the answers though..and concern aboot it being in the wrong section..
cybers

calamity wrote:
Oh I see Ive been shifted... I had thought the Globe Hotel came under Glasgow From the past but see Im wrong... thanks for all the answers though..and concern aboot it being in the wrong section..


George Square surely is George Square regardless of when, where and how   Other Threads have been merged with their relevant parents and not just ones you have created.
calamity

Funny how it wasnt noticed though until someone moaned.. the moan that got removed ,,  I dont mind my posts being moved or merged, thats the job of the mods isnt it..
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