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Glasgow Buildings Discussion Thread

All comments about this section in here folks.  
AlanM

The pyramid building if its in Glasgow is a church in Anderston, it could also be a church of similar design in Cumbernauld.
HollowHorn


Interesting to see the public toilets behind the tower.
stranger








These two are the Art School new building opposite the Macintosh one. Same corner from different angles. You can see St Aloysius school on the far right of the top one and St Aloysius church steeple on the right of the bottom one.
HollowHorn

Howdy Stranger, I knew I'd seen that building before  
Alex Glass

College of Building and Printing

60 NORTH HANOVER STREET AND 63 NORTH FREDERICK STREET, GLASGOW COLLEGE OF BUILDING AND PRINTING



One of the few more modern building to be listed.

HB No. 48414
Category: B

Date Listed: 14/02/2002

Statutory Description:
Wylie, Shanks & Underwood (see Notes), 1958-1964; with podium/millennium block by Wylie, Shanks & Partners 1969. 13-storey with rooftop plant, 24-bay, hexagonal-plan, flat-roofed, horizontally-proportioned tower block with Le Corbusier elements of pilotis, sculptural rooftop gymnasium and plant. Reinforced concrete frame on exposed aggregate pilotis, Italian Travertine marble slabs and vitrolite. Later low single storey and raised basement podium block to N with reflective glazing and deep roof panels. S (ENTRANCE) ELEVATION: 7 massive pilotis to ground floor with huge cantilevered concrete canopy over entrance to left of centre. 13 identical floors above with banded curtain wall of black vitrolite band and deep windows moving subtly toward centre 'V' projection and surmounted by deep lighter marble band forming parapet. N ELEVATION: as S above ground but with some taller bays toward centre of 3rd, 4th and 5th floors (making 2 floors). Podium/Millenium block (see below) projecting at ground. E AND W ELEVATIONS: blank face of marble blocks in 3 vertical courses punctuated by narrow horizontal band. ROOFTOP STRUCTURES: rectangular-plan, wishbone-shaped former gymnasium to E, on E-W axis. Concrete structures to centre and W (see Notes). Grid glazing pattern of 2 square panes below large upper pane in metal windows. INTERIOR: little structural alteration with partitions retained much as original. Terrazzo staircase with timber handrail set into marble-clad baluster; 3 lifts. Some old printing machines retained. PODIUM/MILLENNIUM BLOCK: low block to N with vertically-aligned reflective glazing, deep jettied roof panels and flat roof. Entrance to E with broad scale-and-platt concrete steps.




Reference:
Glasgow City Archives DEAN OF GUILD PLANS, Ref 1958/466, 1969/1021. Williamson, Riches, Higgs BUILDINGS OF SCOTLAND GLASGOW (1990), pp143-4. Ed Doak GLASGOW AT A GLANCE, No 191. McKean, Walker, Walker CENTRAL GLASGOW (1993), p22. E Harwood ENGLAND (2000), sections 9.16-20. K Frampton MODERN ARCHITECTURE (1994), pp178-85. Hasan-Uddin Khan INTERNATIONAL STYLE (2001), pp146-7. Information courtesy of Glasgow City Council, and College Buildings Manager.




Notes:
This building is of outstanding importance owing to the high calibre of design and construction as well as retention of original features including the chequer-board glazing pattern and rooftop terrace with principal sculptural objects intact. Significantly sited at the hub of urban Glasgow, the distinctive vocabulary of Le Corbusier's modular system for urban living is skilfully translated into a technologically advanced educational establishment. The significance of this building and the nearby Central College of Commerce can be justifiably considered alongside a limited international cast including Gio Ponti's Pirelli Tower, Milan (1956-60) and the LCC's Alton Estate, London (1952-60), the latter described as "one of the great statements of modern architecture in London" by Elain Harwood (sections 9.18). Built for Glasgow Corporation as Stow College of Building and Printing, completed 11th September, 1964. Dean of Guild approval was granted on 15th August, 1958 with the first drawings submitted in 1957. Design similarities with Le Corbusier's Unité d'Habitation, Marseille of 1947-53, make it likely that Peter Williams, architect of the similar Central College of Commerce (listed separately) was involved but the majority of drawings are initialled by his colleagues 'CJW' and 'RHMcE'. Originally conceived as an 8-storey block with the College of Printing subsequently placed above (although clearly early in the planning stage), the building was originally run as two separate colleges. Drawings for the Podium/Millennium block, containing assembly hall, canteen, assorted studios, theatre and another gymnasium are initialled 'AB'. Overt nautical references can be translated as a double funnel, prow (former gymnasium), funnel and viewing platform on the rooftop, with the curtain walls as sails. Latterly, the gymnasium has been converted to a TV studio. Due to deterioration of the opening mechanisms, some windows have been welded shut (for safety reasons) while others have been replaced with galvanised steel (re-using the frames where possible) and retaining the distinctive original glazing pattern. The 4th floor height changes have been incorporated to allow extra light into studios and could conceivably reflect yet another feature of the Unité d'Habitation's commercial deck. The perforated ceiling tile heating system employed in the Central College of Commerce was also used in the College of Building and Printing.
falseface

The B and P is one of my fav buildings in Glasgow
Stuball

I'm racking my brain trying to figure where this building is/was.... anyone know?

*edit*  Help if I pasted the pic... duh


Stuball

This is Ibroxholm, Edmiston Drive to the left


James

Stuball wrote:
This is Ibroxholm, Edmiston Drive to the left



Well spotted sir.    Note the decorative cornice on the tenement (extreme
left, above) - now gone. Removed when? And why?  

*edit* - looks like the entire corner tenement has gone?




James H
Stuball

Yeah, the two blocks at the end were knocked down to widen Edmiston Drive.... just little square of grass now and bricked up gable ends. The decorative turrets are still there on the other side of the block
stagwhite

Stuball wrote:
I'm racking my brain trying to figure where this building is/was.... anyone know?

*edit*  Help if I pasted the pic... duh




Isn't that Waterloo Street?  Across from the NCP car park, side of the building is now covered in tinfoil or something.
Fjord

stagwhite wrote:
Stuball wrote:
I'm racking my brain trying to figure where this building is/was.... anyone know?



Isn't that Waterloo Street?  Across from the NCP car park, side of the building is now covered in tinfoil or something.



Well spotted stagwhite I thought that building had been demolished but looks like it has been refurbished along with the tinfoil cladding on the side. The building in the distance on the far left on the pic is the telephone exchange on Pitt Street.

schiehallion

James, in your 'unknown' section of the Glasgow buildings section, the first and last one is the same building, Langside College.

Also the one early in the thread captioned 'Bothwell Street' is actually Waterloo Street at West Campbell Street.
Fjord

Thanks for the info schiehallion pics updated  
Whambamthankumam

I thought Bothwell Street, aw well no far away.
me



took a pic of this buildings side years ago on my mobile
was about 4am n i was a wee bit...eh "tired"
Alex Glass

Nice photo Me

Have you got lots of photos. We would all love to see them
me

not got loads but ill upload the decent ones ive got at some point

cheers
caledoniangeezer

Some early morning views while heading towards Argyle St in late December 2002.















trolleybus

Re: College of Building and Printing

Alex Glass wrote:
60 NORTH HANOVER STREET AND 63 NORTH FREDERICK STREET, GLASGOW COLLEGE OF BUILDING AND PRINTING



One of the few more modern building to be listed.

HB No. 48414
Category: B

Date Listed: 14/02/2002

Statutory Description:
Wylie, Shanks & Underwood (see Notes), 1958-1964; with podium/millennium block by Wylie, Shanks & Partners 1969. 13-storey with rooftop plant, 24-bay, hexagonal-plan, flat-roofed, horizontally-proportioned tower block with Le Corbusier elements of pilotis, sculptural rooftop gymnasium and plant. Reinforced concrete frame on exposed aggregate pilotis, Italian Travertine marble slabs and vitrolite. Later low single storey and raised basement podium block to N with reflective glazing and deep roof panels. S (ENTRANCE) ELEVATION: 7 massive pilotis to ground floor with huge cantilevered concrete canopy over entrance to left of centre. 13 identical floors above with banded curtain wall of black vitrolite band and deep windows moving subtly toward centre 'V' projection and surmounted by deep lighter marble band forming parapet. N ELEVATION: as S above ground but with some taller bays toward centre of 3rd, 4th and 5th floors (making 2 floors). Podium/Millenium block (see below) projecting at ground. E AND W ELEVATIONS: blank face of marble blocks in 3 vertical courses punctuated by narrow horizontal band. ROOFTOP STRUCTURES: rectangular-plan, wishbone-shaped former gymnasium to E, on E-W axis. Concrete structures to centre and W (see Notes). Grid glazing pattern of 2 square panes below large upper pane in metal windows. INTERIOR: little structural alteration with partitions retained much as original. Terrazzo staircase with timber handrail set into marble-clad baluster; 3 lifts. Some old printing machines retained. PODIUM/MILLENNIUM BLOCK: low block to N with vertically-aligned reflective glazing, deep jettied roof panels and flat roof. Entrance to E with broad scale-and-platt concrete steps.




Reference:
Glasgow City Archives DEAN OF GUILD PLANS, Ref 1958/466, 1969/1021. Williamson, Riches, Higgs BUILDINGS OF SCOTLAND GLASGOW (1990), pp143-4. Ed Doak GLASGOW AT A GLANCE, No 191. McKean, Walker, Walker CENTRAL GLASGOW (1993), p22. E Harwood ENGLAND (2000), sections 9.16-20. K Frampton MODERN ARCHITECTURE (1994), pp178-85. Hasan-Uddin Khan INTERNATIONAL STYLE (2001), pp146-7. Information courtesy of Glasgow City Council, and College Buildings Manager.




Notes:
This building is of outstanding importance owing to the high calibre of design and construction as well as retention of original features including the chequer-board glazing pattern and rooftop terrace with principal sculptural objects intact. Significantly sited at the hub of urban Glasgow, the distinctive vocabulary of Le Corbusier's modular system for urban living is skilfully translated into a technologically advanced educational establishment. The significance of this building and the nearby Central College of Commerce can be justifiably considered alongside a limited international cast including Gio Ponti's Pirelli Tower, Milan (1956-60) and the LCC's Alton Estate, London (1952-60), the latter described as "one of the great statements of modern architecture in London" by Elain Harwood (sections 9.18). Built for Glasgow Corporation as Stow College of Building and Printing, completed 11th September, 1964. Dean of Guild approval was granted on 15th August, 1958 with the first drawings submitted in 1957. Design similarities with Le Corbusier's Unité d'Habitation, Marseille of 1947-53, make it likely that Peter Williams, architect of the similar Central College of Commerce (listed separately) was involved but the majority of drawings are initialled by his colleagues 'CJW' and 'RHMcE'. Originally conceived as an 8-storey block with the College of Printing subsequently placed above (although clearly early in the planning stage), the building was originally run as two separate colleges. Drawings for the Podium/Millennium block, containing assembly hall, canteen, assorted studios, theatre and another gymnasium are initialled 'AB'. Overt nautical references can be translated as a double funnel, prow (former gymnasium), funnel and viewing platform on the rooftop, with the curtain walls as sails. Latterly, the gymnasium has been converted to a TV studio. Due to deterioration of the opening mechanisms, some windows have been welded shut (for safety reasons) while others have been replaced with galvanised steel (re-using the frames where possible) and retaining the distinctive original glazing pattern. The 4th floor height changes have been incorporated to allow extra light into studios and could conceivably reflect yet another feature of the Unité d'Habitation's commercial deck. The perforated ceiling tile heating system employed in the Central College of Commerce was also used in the College of Building and Printing.


I notice on North Hanover St that numbers 43 and 45 are still on the wall.

What was that building at corner of North Hanover and Cathedral St.

Seems to be part of Queen St Station.
Hopalong Cassidy

Stuball wrote:
This is Ibroxholm, Edmiston Drive to the left




I think it may be Bothwell Street
Stuball

Did you quote the right post? That is Ibroxholm
schiehallion

Re: College of Building and Printing

Alex Glass wrote:
60 NORTH HANOVER STREET AND 63 NORTH FREDERICK STREET, GLASGOW COLLEGE OF BUILDING AND PRINTING



What was that building at corner of North Hanover and Cathedral St.

Seems to be part of Queen St Station.


That was the Grain Store.  You can see the remains of its' walls here in the present day station car park.  They are supporting the walls and additional supports have been put in.



The street level windows and doors are still visible today.



The car park was a glass covered goods yard with a weighing station immediately behind the Copthorne.  Wagons would run into the grain store, be filled up from above and turned on a turntable before departing out and rejoining the main line up the tunnel.

In that modern aerial picture I posted, you'll see what looks like a wee grey rectangle right in at the corner of the yard where Bath St meets North Hanover St.  If you pop down today you'll see it's actually a curved part of the wall where the turntable was for turning the grain wagons.  Closer inspection of the remaining walls also reveal the openings where wagons ran through.
HollowHorn

Never knew that, ta.
dmk

Re: College of Building and Printing

Alex Glass wrote:
60 NORTH HANOVER STREET AND 63 NORTH FREDERICK STREET, GLASGOW COLLEGE OF BUILDING AND PRINTING



One of the few more modern building to be listed.



that's my college but i know it as the met
it's changed again to the city of glasgow college
ewan60

Stuball wrote:
I'm racking my brain trying to figure where this building is/was.... anyone know?

*edit*  Help if I pasted the pic... duh




It was? at the corner of Blythswood Street & Bothwell Street. Address was 55 Blythswood St. Entrance was to the side of the building. Had a job interview here mid 1970's.
cybers

Re: College of Building and Printing

schiehallion wrote:

The car park was a glass covered goods yard with a weighing station immediately behind the Copthorne.  Wagons would run into the grain store, be filled up from above and turned on a turntable before departing out and rejoining the main line up the tunnel.

In that modern aerial picture I posted, you'll see what looks like a wee grey rectangle right in at the corner of the yard where Bath St meets North Hanover St.  If you pop down today you'll see it's actually a curved part of the wall where the turntable was for turning the grain wagons.  Closer inspection of the remaining walls also reveal the openings where wagons ran through.


I never mind this as a covered area but the picture clearly shows it to be so... Now i am betting someone can turn up the relevant photos from ground level. I only remember the Blue trimmed Canopy into the station with the old Railways logo on it so would be great to see it in its splendour.
norrie

I cant believe I have missed this thread, cracking photos
One of the photos shows just how much of Townhead was demolished, hells teeth it was most of it
mani

I wonder what will become of the building at the corner of miller street and argyle street a good sandstone building been lying empty for a while now .
might make nice flats
norrie

Hi mani, that building has lain empty for years, there should be a photo of it from about 2 years ago that I took, showing the building covered in scaffold
Check my city centre photos thread
There was a plan to turn it into a hotel, as far a I heard, for some reason it never happned
Alex Glass

I take it you are referring to the building that had Ravel. I made some enquiries on behalf of someone who wanted access to take photos. I took photos of it before the scaffold went up.

Don't ever remember any talk of it becoming a hotel. But may be wrong. The scaffold was up so that the owner could make the building safe as the upper floors where dangerous and it also resulted in Ravel having to move out.

If there was a planning application in recent years it would still be active as the consent lasts for five years. Maybe there will be information on the Council's planning site.
norrie

Hi AlexGlass, that was the what I was told by a scaffolder
I would be interested to hear the truth, I hope this building will be put to good use and not rot in an important shopping area
Alex Glass

I Norrie a scaffolder would know        
norrie

Can happen, just been told of a new office block and its future use, my lips are sealed
Marblez

I take it I will be shot if I open mine then :)
cybers

norrie wrote:
Can happen, just been told of a new office block and its future use, my lips are sealed


Offices used as a zoo ?... novel idea somebody phone Angela Lansbury someones heed will roll for this if shes writing a book....
Alex Glass

Would that be the new building they are starting in Queen Street Norrie?

There usually aren't any secrets just the fact that people don't see the planning application which will usually provide all the detail you want and then some once a scaffoler gets to add their little bit  
cybers

You used to be able to ask to view the planning applications for a minimal cost if the buildings use once completed was ever in question. I dare say this is still the case as most planning applications need to go on public record with the only real exception of MOD and Police Stations but then we never really question a police stations intended use or layout unless we are up to no good.
Alex Glass

Not sure about the current status of it but the council were moving toward an online free access planning application site. The reports are available as a matter of public record and give all the detail you need.

There was a local building in my area that workmen told locals was being turned into everything from a cinema to a primark. It was a B&M shop. Never trust construction workers of scaffolders to tell you the truth
norrie

Hi alex, I have no idea what that building  in Queen st will be
cybers

When i was still in glass when asked i would say it will be closed when i get finished but when the guy puts the door it it will sometimes be open.

I had a T-Shirt i wore on site I had printed in the Candleriggs ... FUNNY CNUT .... I heard it that often ... Most of the time i had no clue what i was working on apart from it needed windows.
Alex Glass

Oh I thought you were told by the demolition team something recently ?Norrie sorry if I am mistaken  
Marblez

As long as it looks better than the concrete monstrosity they pulled down I will be quite happy. Even better would be some mirrored glass for some new angles for traffic cone shots
norrie

Hi Alex the demolition man on the Queen st site told me that as soon as they cleared the site work, would begin right away, thats whats happened
Alex Glass

Point is Norrie that wasn't a secret. They didn't demolish that site to leave it and the planning was granted in late 2011. And guess what they needed to demolish it before construction started surprise surprise.      
norrie

Hi Ally_M, yes that was a terrible looking building

Must check the next time I am at the site, if there is an artists impression of the new building
Alex Glass

there will be one at the council

I think it is much higher that the previous building was

cant remember what it was but I am sure as soon as the scaffold goes up we will all know      
norrie

God help me, there's three comedians on tonight
Larry Mo and Curly

I think I will go back to posting photos
Marblez

We'll get an even better view once it's built and the scaffolding comes down !!
cybers

It was a bit of a prime location to have left it as a vacant lot. I think that was why the old bank survived as long as it did. Was there not an Evening time clipping posted by James that had the artists impression of what was filling the void    need to go scan back through some of that in the news stuff he done.

Och fuckitt heres one i did earlier

http://www.clydewaterfront.com/pr...ommercial/d389---110-queen-street
Marblez

The gangster fae Pollok .... nah he's just the compere !!
Marblez

cybers wrote:

Och fuckitt heres one i did earlier

http://www.clydewaterfront.com/pr...ommercial/d389---110-queen-street


Dukie two-cones should like looking at himself in that
norrie

Well its better than the building it replaces and you will get your Duke of Wellington in reflection

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