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Hello there

I just joined this forum and look forward to taking part in the discussions here. I hate to start off with self advertising, but it's a project that might well be up the proverbial street of a lot of folks here. I'm currently drawing various out of the way and 'doomed' places in Glasgow. They are - the showman's yards in Shettleston, Carntyne and Dalmarnock (I am myself, one of the travelling showpeople who traditionally live in Glasgow), the Red Road flats and the Barras.

I'd be very interested in talking to anyone who lived in the Red Road scheme, or who is, or was a trader at the Barras. The drawings I do collect and illustrate people's stories just as much as the places themselves, so I am keen to talk to anyone who will! Although I am mostly interested in the three places mentioned above, I am interested in any and all strange and unusual places in the city, so am open to suggestions!

To see one of my drawings, and to find out what I'm up to, you can click the link below.

cheers
Mitch Miller

http://dialectogram.wordpress.com/
cybers

Welcome along
Pretty surprised there has never been a showmans thread in here before now.
With the historical fairs and showmans sites that litter the city it is pretty astounding.
Though waving a camera at one of these sites is probably not the best idea.
scotsjock

glasgow showmans sites

its always interested me how the travelling show people lived in the winter months then one winter i found myself in glasgow and boy was i amazed.having researched a few adresses i bought a glasgow street map and off i went.ended up near the S.E.C.C walked a short distance and i spotted some fairground transport lurking behind some sheds at the finnieston quay.on closer inspection i saw the name horne on two of the trucks and a lorry pulling what was a mobile amusement arcade.there was a guy who obviously was guarding the yard who i spoke to and he told me to head up the road to partick and whiteinch.lots of deserted wasteland greeted me then all of a sudden i came across a pub called the harmsworth bar which was lit up outside like blackpool illuminations.with a carpark which had more fairground equipment scattered around it parked up in neat lines.i glanced across the road and saw sheds in what i would have described as a railway embankment/old yard where i could see a few showmans caravans and associated transport parked up.further up the road i came across a lot of industrial units turned the corner then bang ! here i was in a street lined on both sides of the road with lorries,burger vans,fairground rides etc.an amazing site to see.i wasnt finished by a long shot so i walked down that street and found some more fairground trucks parked up in a dead end lane next to a bowling alley.i was in heaven.all the trucks parked up and resting for the winter but still a murky smell of stale diesel graced the air.the whole area was awash with a lifetime of memories.a few trucks seemed to look a bit worse for wear with burger vans,kids rides tucked neatly in behind so as not to get stolen with another lorry parked behind that with milimeters to spare.
scotsjock

glasgow showmans yards

i have been back to glasgow several times and on clydeholm road in whiteinch most of the showmens living quarters have disappeared due to the clyde regeneration project but memories still remain as i saw a showmans caravan lying abandoned in the street and a few other bits and bobs showing that life existed here in this industrial area.most areas where showmen live in the east side of glasgow are under threat because of the building of the commonwealth village with many travelling showmen opting to move everything to the outer reaches of glasgow but still within easy travelling distance.swanston street used to be a hive of activity with a myriad of showmen all living in different areas of the street.it was a community within itself.trucks lining every ajoining street parking up for winter due to lack of space in the living quarters or either returning or leaving for an event.i did get a tour of one yard which had caravans and chalets in lines making it look like just an ordinary holiday park and every corner you turned unearthed a treasure or two.seperate areas for parking the loads some of which looked like they had been there for centuries and more often than not the lorries that were no longer in use contained a part of every showmans travelling history.some lorries had old equipment they or their ancestors before them used to travel and take money with while others had the names of their famillies painted on the cab doors and were kept for sentimental reasons.glasgow has the highest population of travelling showpeople anywhere in europe.some retired some still making a living travelling the fairgrounds and some with other fairground orientated business,s albiet on a static or more managable scale.
cybers

The eastend was awash with these sites and to an extent still is though most have become diluted from the showmanship heritage over time which in itself is a shame but merely a moving forward with the times.

The fair when it came to town was something to behold all that diesel smell you mentioned mixed with candy floss burger and hotdogs aroma on Fleshers Haugh were something to be seen. Now the carnival at the SECC is nothing more than a poor reminder of what went before.
scotsjock

dalmanock and rutherglen still have a few theres a couple in govan too
scotsjock

John

Are the showguys still in Dalmarnock?... Cybers ?
cybers

Still some of them there last time i passed John but the french street site has been cleared, Think Swanton Street, Strathclyde St, Solway and Carstairs are next on the removal list to get the area rejuvinated  for the Commonwealth. Though I have no clue as to where they are resettling as when the hush order was put in place in light of the Jaconelli farce there has been nothing even reported in the news or even indeed if these sites are still on the hitlist at all.
dickyhart

Theres a fella called Melvin Thomas who is one of the showmen who lives in Dalmarnock. He keeps all the stuff that the other showmen have no further use of, like old and outdated rides as well broken down rides, old signs etc. He has over twenty containers full of the stuff. Some of it dates over 100 years old. It like an unofficial archive of Glasgows travelling fairgrounds. His hobby is restoring these things, he has never found anywhere to display them properly. I understand GCC refused his offer top put some of them in one of the museums. Shame really.

Mitch maybe you know him, could make an interesting visit for UG'ers.
sputnik

oh yes please,id love a dodgem car.
cybers

dickyhart wrote:
Theres a fella called Melvin Thomas who is one of the showmen who lives in Dalmarnock. He keeps all the stuff that the other showmen have no further use of, like old and outdated rides as well broken down rides, old signs etc. He has over twenty containers full of the stuff. Some of it dates over 100 years old. It like an unofficial archive of Glasgows travelling fairgrounds. His hobby is restoring these things, he has never found anywhere to display them properly. I understand GCC refused his offer top put some of them in one of the museums. Shame really.

Mitch maybe you know him, could make an interesting visit for UG'ers.


Now that would be awesome to see ...  

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