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LowLight

Amazing shots, I have never seen anything like that before.

Can't wait for the rest.
fastnet

Fantastic pics............

I hope there are more to come.
tombro

Great pics EGT !

I left Glasgow as a ten year old at the end of 1960 but, nearly fifty years later, your pics remind me of the Glasgow I left.

Ta mate,
Tombro  
AlanM



This one is Byres Rd @ Hillhead Station. The Laing sign propped up against the gable of Curlers.

The shop across the road was Carole Wilson, florist - Oddbins lives there now.

I can't remember what the green shop on the corner where Greggs is now was though
Eddie Gallaghers Tash

I'm trying to upload more but its not letting me do it. :(
Alex Glass

Eddie Gallaghers Tash wrote:
I'm trying to upload more but its not letting me do it. :(


Had a look at your first post here Eddie. Maybe if you try just posting the url between [img][/img] it may work. I don't think you need to post the url between [url][/url] as well.

Hope that helps  
Eddie Gallaghers Tash

I tried the attach file button, the files are on my C: drive rather than on the net.
James

Eddie Gallaghers Tash wrote:
I tried the attach file button, the files are on my C: drive rather than on the net.

You cant display pictures like that. They need to be hosted on the net somewhere.

Try either Tinypic or Photobucket - they are both free to use.



James H
Alex Glass

James Check your Tinypic link
trolleybus

AlanM wrote:


This one is Byres Rd @ Hillhead Station. The Laing sign propped up against the gable of Curlers.

The shop across the road was Carole Wilson, florist - Oddbins lives there now.

I can't remember what the green shop on the corner where Greggs is now was though


Was,nt there a malcolm campbell,s friut shop round about there.
AlanM

trolleybus wrote:
AlanM wrote:


This one is Byres Rd @ Hillhead Station. The Laing sign propped up against the gable of Curlers.

The shop across the road was Carole Wilson, florist - Oddbins lives there now.

I can't remember what the green shop on the corner where Greggs is now was though


Was,nt there a malcolm campbell,s friut shop round about there.


I think it was further down, between Highburgh Rd and Dowanside Rd - either where Little Italy is or next door.

I remember there being a Fine Fare in Ashton Lane (where the Ashoka is now, used to be Cooper's before that but that was before my time) during the reconstrustion, remember walking through hoardings to get to it.
Stuball

Wasnt the Malcolm Campbells where Peckhams is now?
neilmc

AlanM wrote:
I can't remember what the green shop on the corner where Greggs is now was though


In June 1979 a shop opened on that corner called 'Truly Fair Discount Toiletries', which would tie in with the era of the photo.
AlanM

Stuball wrote:
Wasnt the Malcolm Campbells where Peckhams is now?


Thats the Hyndland Rd branch you're thinking of, the Byres Rd branch was definatley on the west side of Byres Rd.


@Neil: Thanks
BILLYCAN

KELVINHAUGH BURROWING JUNCTION

Does anyone know  what the KELVINHAUGH BURROWING JUNCTION       was ,and what happened to it i think it was around the yorkhill area Iam not sure if it was connected to the underground or had another use, Billycan
James

Re: KELVINHAUGH BURROWING JUNCTION

BILLYCAN wrote:
Does anyone know what the KELVINHAUGH BURROWING JUNCTION was ,and what happened to it i think it was around the yorkhill area. I am not sure if it was connected to the underground or had another use,
Billycan

Nothing to do with the Underground. See here - when they were reopening the
Glasgow Central Low Level line in 1979 they wanted to connect it to the Queen
Street line just before Partick station. So, they created a short section of new tunnel
(single track) for the eastbound line which burrowed into the old Yorkhill tunnel and
exits at the SECC station. The westbound line climbs up the side of the retaining
wall alongside the Clydeside Expressway adjacent to the SECC.




James H
BILLYCAN

Re: KELVINHAUGH BURROWING JUNCTION

james73 wrote:
BILLYCAN wrote:
Does anyone know what the KELVINHAUGH BURROWING JUNCTION was ,and what happened to it i think it was around the yorkhill area. I am not sure if it was connected to the underground or had another use,
Billycan

Nothing to do with the Underground. See here - when they were reopening the
Glasgow Central Low Level line in 1979 they wanted to connect it to the Queen
Street line just before Partick station. So, they created a short section of new tunnel
(single track) for the eastbound line which burrowed into the old Yorkhill tunnel and
exits at the SECC station. The westbound line climbs up the side of the retaining
wall alongside the Clydeside Expressway adjacent to the SECC.




James H

Thanks James after all the years I now know what the juction was for is the entrance still there?? BILLYCAN
Gareth1974

With recent arguments about GARL and the Edinburgh Trams project I'm wondering why we could do projects like this in the past but we can't do projects like GARL/Edinburgh Trams.

Doesn't do much to inspire confidence in the SNP government or their claims that we never had money invested in Scotland's infastructure in the past.
cybers

Because we farm work out to European companies who quote stupid prices on jobs and never achieve that price. U.K companies lose out for giving an honest quote usually on schedule and on budget but they don't get the work because on paper it looks more expensive.

Edinburgh Trams Project was a farce from consultation to work commencement and now with the revelation that the council will need to return millions more cash to shopkeepers who invested all because some Krauts made an arse of it and under-quoted the job in the first place.
pottle

AlanM wrote:
Stuball wrote:
Wasnt the Malcolm Campbells where Peckhams is now?


Thats the Hyndland Rd branch you're thinking of, the Byres Rd branch was definatley on the west side of Byres Rd.



What a great pic of my old haunt.
I worked in the Galbraiths which was next door of Carole Wilson.
Facing The Curlers was Hannah's, the Jewellry store.
Further down was indeed Malcolm Campbells and Peckams was'The Byre''
Another great wateringhole in the West End[/b]
If only the pic panned more to the left you would have seen my old place of work.Opposite was Coopers,Fine Fare and a shop I got papped out many a time for checking prices
Byres Road was a great place to do many things.Other shops that were there in the 70s were Galloways,the Butcher and The Lite Bite'
and wasn't there a Radio Rentals at the corner facing Ashton Lane?
The Papingo was a popuar place and sadly all gone now.
I remember a dusty ole book store opposite 'Tennents''.
This was a gloomy store and full of dusty old books.
On the same side as the gloom store was a small restaurant or tea shop.I'm sure it's decor was green.All gone now.
These were the days before they re-routed University Avenue and where the traffic has now easy access to Highburgh Road and slap thru the old gloomy book store.....[/b]
Gareth1974

cybers wrote:
Because we farm work out to European companies who quote stupid prices on jobs and never achieve that price. U.K companies lose out for giving an honest quote usually on schedule and on budget but they don't get the work because on paper it looks more expensive.

Edinburgh Trams Project was a farce from consultation to work commencement and now with the revelation that the council will need to return millions more cash to shopkeepers who invested all because some Krauts made an arse of it and under-quoted the job in the first place.


Isn't that the case with everything cybers?  Every major project coming out of the Scottish Parliament since it's inception has been underquoted just to get them started?

You don't get it unless you pay for it I guess.
AlanM

pottle wrote:
AlanM wrote:
Stuball wrote:
Wasnt the Malcolm Campbells where Peckhams is now?


Thats the Hyndland Rd branch you're thinking of, the Byres Rd branch was definatley on the west side of Byres Rd.



What a great pic of my old haunt.
I worked in the Galbraiths which was next door of Carole Wilson.
Facing The Curlers was Hannah's, the Jewellry store.
Further down was indeed Malcolm Campbells and Peckams was'The Byre''
Another great wateringhole in the West End[/b]
If only the pic panned more to the left you would have seen my old place of work.Opposite was Coopers,Fine Fare and a shop I got papped out many a time for checking prices
Byres Road was a great place to do many things.Other shops that were there in the 70s were Galloways,the Butcher and The Lite Bite'
and wasn't there a Radio Rentals at the corner facing Ashton Lane?
The Papingo was a popuar place and sadly all gone now.
I remember a dusty ole book store opposite 'Tennents''.
This was a gloomy store and full of dusty old books.
On the same side as the gloom store was a small restaurant or tea shop.I'm sure it's decor was green.All gone now.
These were the days before they re-routed University Avenue and where the traffic has now easy access to Highburgh Road and slap thru the old gloomy book store.....[/b]

The Byre - that became Whistler's Mother and is now the Blind Pig, Peckhams is a couple of doors up. The Radio Rentals was on the corner of Dowanside Road, opposite Ashton Rd.

I used to work in the Wimpy / Burgerking which were where the Lite Bite was.
Gareth1974

'Radio Rental' there's a piece of rhyming slang you don't hear much now!
cybers

Gareth1974 wrote:
cybers wrote:
Because we farm work out to European companies who quote stupid prices on jobs and never achieve that price. U.K companies lose out for giving an honest quote usually on schedule and on budget but they don't get the work because on paper it looks more expensive.

Edinburgh Trams Project was a farce from consultation to work commencement and now with the revelation that the council will need to return millions more cash to shopkeepers who invested all because some Krauts made an arse of it and under-quoted the job in the first place.


Isn't that the case with everything cybers?  Every major project coming out of the Scottish Parliament since it's inception has been underquoted just to get them started?

You don't get it unless you pay for it I guess.


You don't get it unless you pay for it right enough i could not agree more but why do we keep awarding contracts for major building projects to those in the Euro zone who time and again offer up unrealistic quotes for the work. Theres an old saying Buy it cheap buy it twice and the way we are going as a nation we seem to be paying for a lot of things twice.
Gareth1974

I guess the job was offered to the German company because they had a track-record (pardon the pun) of building and maintaining tramlines.  Perhaps they just understood the Scottish psyche and put in such low bids to get the open-ended contracts.

Even the former Soviet-states have tram systems but then again this is all about building one from scratch.  

Did Edinburgh ever have a tram system before?  I think it was just Glasgow.

I guess my whole point here is the fallacy presented by the SNP that Scotland never got anything built.  Many will argue it was money from the Empire but what about the massive road network that was built post-Empire?  I've no doubt there was massive expansion in the railways as well as well as other large project - of which the effectiveness could be questioned - but at least they were undertook and completed.

Doesn't inspire much confidence in me with the SNP when such small projects can't even be completed by them such as GARL and the Edinburgh Trams.  After all how much have they spent on renewable energy projects just for our electricity bills to go up.

Sorry if this is too political, or detracts from the sentiment of this thread, but I just felt this way when I saw the pictures of the completed and functioning Glasgow Underground.
cybers

Oh i am set against GARL ... i think its going to be nothing but another white elephant on our economy and even the Glasgow plan to re-introduce the tram is another hole for throwing cash down as it would have to built too from scratch.
The German company have a proven track record for building and maintaining Tram and rail systems but over the last 10 years also have a proven track record of never meeting a deadline or budget constraint. Please bear in mind the SNP had nothing to do with the tram project in Edinburgh and have always stood against it this was decision taken by a council with aspirations of grandeur in touting their green policies all of which have failed miserably up to this point. The SNP might be about to withhold the extra funding and the Embra council now have a lot of dirty nappies with worry ... but it was funding that should have never been released to start with.

The age of public transport is dead we have a reliance on personal transport because of its safety, Cleanliness and cost effectiveness, Clean renewable energy is the way forward with clean renewable vehicles not some pie in the sky scheme where you wreck a city centre for 5 years cause suffering and hardship to business who are the lifeline of your city and just irritate the fcuk out of your constituents after all it's up to them if you stay in your job.
James

cybers wrote:
The age of public transport is dead we have a reliance on personal transport because of its safety, Cleanliness and cost effectiveness, Clean renewable energy is the way forward with clean renewable vehicles not some pie in the sky scheme where you wreck a city centre for 5 years cause suffering and hardship to business who are the lifeline of your city and just irritate the fcuk out of your constituents after all it's up to them if you stay in your job.

I dunno how you can say that when its crystal clear the country ginds to halt
any time the train drivers go on strike or there's snow on the tracks. We dont
have such things as renewable vehicles so that's a non sequitur for me.

Besides, "everyone should have a car" is Thatcherite thinking AFAIC and wholly
unnecessary.



James H
cybers

Unfortunate as it may sound though James open a paper ... read of attacks on public transport only a fortnight since that guy was assaulted and dragged the platform length at airdrie and whilst its minimal its too much. How many times have you opened a web page on public transport to find the same thing time and again.
Smelly passenger
Overpriced tickets
Poor service
Leaves on the line.

For me a car is not a luxury its a necessary evil  just to reach my place of employment. The bus goes there but not at the time i need to be there, The train goes to Edinburgh Park round the corner from my workplace 2 mins walk ... But again not at the time i need to be there. Dont you think the 800million wasted on the Edinburgh tram project could have went a lot further researching green energy instead of letting China lead the way. We can't stick 2 bits of metal in the road for 6 miles yet we invented the telephone, television, penicillin, radar we led the way on DNA research etc the list is almost endless until now what do we have ... The Dyson Hoover made in china BTW and Dolly the deed sheep.
Jagz1876

Gareth1974 wrote:
 

Did Edinburgh ever have a tram system before?  I think it was just Glasgow.

I guess my whole point here is the fallacy presented by the SNP that Scotland never got anything built.

Yes Gareth, Edinburgh like most cities and towns in Scotland had its own tramway system, 1871 till 1956. As for the fallacy as you put it that Scotland never got anything, My father worked in the calley after the war till the 70s and was forever complaining about the second hand rolling stock that was sent up from England for use on Scottish railways while England got brand new stock. In more recent times the when building the channel tunnel we were promised Euro star trains running from Scottish Cities, we're still waiting. Billions to be spent on a new high speed rail link between London and Birmingham, its only 100 miles, Why not to Glasgow or Edinburgh. As for roads, England enjoyed motorway and Duel carriageways while we risked life and limb on killer stretches of roads (A9 for example) which would not be tolerated in England. Just a few examples, i'm sure others could add their own.
James

cybers wrote:
Unfortunate as it may sound though James open a paper ... read of attacks on public transport only a fortnight since that guy was assaulted and dragged the platform length at airdrie and whilst its minimal its too much. How many times have you opened a web page on public transport to find the same thing time and again.
Smelly passenger
Overpriced tickets
Poor service
Leaves on the line.

For me a car is not a luxury its a necessary evil  just to reach my place of employment. The bus goes there but not at the time i need to be there, The train goes to Edinburgh Park round the corner from my workplace 2 mins walk ... But again not at the time i need to be there. Dont you think the 800million wasted on the Edinburgh tram project could have went a lot further researching green energy instead of letting China lead the way. We can't stick 2 bits of metal in the road for 6 miles yet we invented the telephone, television, penicillin, radar we led the way on DNA research etc the list is almost endless until now what do we have ... The Dyson Hoover made in china BTW and Dolly the deed sheep.

I'm not gonnae come on here and defend publicly funded projects like the
Edinburgh Tram. These cost of these things always spirals out of control
and that's something that needs addressed, and quickly. Too many brown
envelopes changing hands if you ask me.

But, thats a different issue to me. You were writing off public transport and
suggesting everyone should have a car. There are far too many selfish bastards
(i.e. single person in a car) on the roads as it is. That's why during rush hour
it can take an hour to get from Shettleston to Hillington on the M8. More cars
will make that worse, far worse. I understand for some people a car is a necessity
because of where they live, but if you live in a town or city and work in that
town or city, is it really necessary? Or do you just think you're better than the
plebs that take the bus? As for attacks on public transport, I'll see your attacks
on public transport and raise you road rage and drunk drivers.

I get the train a lot and dont find it littered with smelly bastards or particularly
overpriced, especially when you look at the cost of petrol right now. Over 100
times more people die on the roads than they do on the railways in the UK. And
if the service *is* poor at times, what do you expect when all you do it patch up
a Victorian-built railway network from time to time rather than properly invest in
it? The very mention of investment in railways in met with howls of derision, in
particular from the likes of the BBC, something that is strangely absent when the
go-ahead is given to build new roads at outrageous prices. I'd still like to know why
that fuckin M74 cost over £100m a mile when it had been costed at £125m for
the whole thing in the mid-late 1990s. Back to brown envelopes again I suspect....



James H
Gareth1974

Not so sure I can follow the notion that Scotland never got anything built here - some of the most impressive bridges in the UK are in Scotland  - as well as Glasgow being one of 3 cities in the UK with an underground system.  You just have to take into account too that the main motorways in England were built to deal with a higher volume of traffic.

As for the high-speed rail links not being built in Scotland well I'm not so sure I can follow the dominant logic either that 'whatever gets built shouldn't have been; what isn't being built should be.'  This seems to be the logic applied to any transport project in Scotland and a lot of energy is lost in the parochial politics of Holyrood.

Just remember that the first Advanced Passenger Trains in service in the UK were on the Glasgow-London route.  White elephants they may have been but the investment was made and they were actually built.
dmk

amazing shots guys
thanks so much for sharing
sputnik

donna,wake up .........yir dreaming.
dmk

am i lol
James

Gareth1974 wrote:
Just remember that the first Advanced Passenger Trains in service in the UK were on the Glasgow-London route.  White elephants they may have been but the investment was made and they were actually built.

The APTs required more investment which the tories refused to give so BR
were forced to sell off the ideas. Now, there are Italian-built tilting trains,
Pendolinos, running on Britains railways using technology that Fiat bought
from who? Yep, that's right - British Rail. Goes back to what I said earlier
about lack of investment in the countrys railways.

Anyway, we're going a bit here....



James H
cybers

james73 wrote:
cybers wrote:
Unfortunate as it may sound though James open a paper ... read of attacks on public transport only a fortnight since that guy was assaulted and dragged the platform length at airdrie and whilst its minimal its too much. How many times have you opened a web page on public transport to find the same thing time and again.
Smelly passenger
Overpriced tickets
Poor service
Leaves on the line.

For me a car is not a luxury its a necessary evil  just to reach my place of employment. The bus goes there but not at the time i need to be there, The train goes to Edinburgh Park round the corner from my workplace 2 mins walk ... But again not at the time i need to be there. Dont you think the 800million wasted on the Edinburgh tram project could have went a lot further researching green energy instead of letting China lead the way. We can't stick 2 bits of metal in the road for 6 miles yet we invented the telephone, television, penicillin, radar we led the way on DNA research etc the list is almost endless until now what do we have ... The Dyson Hoover made in china BTW and Dolly the deed sheep.

I'm not gonnae come on here and defend publicly funded projects like the
Edinburgh Tram. These cost of these things always spirals out of control
and that's something that needs addressed, and quickly. Too many brown
envelopes changing hands if you ask me.

But, thats a different issue to me. You were writing off public transport and
suggesting everyone should have a car. There are far too many selfish bastards
(i.e. single person in a car) on the roads as it is. That's why during rush hour
it can take an hour to get from Shettleston to Hillington on the M8. More cars
will make that worse, far worse. I understand for some people a car is a necessity
because of where they live, but if you live in a town or city and work in that
town or city, is it really necessary? Or do you just think you're better than the
plebs that take the bus? As for attacks on public transport, I'll see your attacks
on public transport and raise you road rage and drunk drivers.

I get the train a lot and dont find it littered with smelly bastards or particularly
overpriced, especially when you look at the cost of petrol right now. Over 100
times more people die on the roads than they do on the railways in the UK. And
if the service *is* poor at times, what do you expect when all you do it patch up
a Victorian-built railway network from time to time rather than properly invest in
it? The very mention of investment in railways in met with howls of derision, in
particular from the likes of the BBC, something that is strangely absent when the
go-ahead is given to build new roads at outrageous prices. I'd still like to know why
that fuckin M74 cost over £100m a mile when it had been costed at £125m for
the whole thing in the mid-late 1990s. Back to brown envelopes again I suspect....



James H


Plebs that take the bus need to walk to work if they have mad shifts in service industries that by their very nature work when everyone else is sleeping. Whilst i cannot deny or defend lack of investment to claim the rail network is not overpriced as a means of transport is bonkers ...
East Coast lines latest offer ... Edinburgh To Newcastle £9 one way so assuming i still need to live up here by my reckoning that would be a £26 quid return fare (Try Getting back for the £9 quoted)
Take the wife with me £52 take my grown up kids well thats £104 plus booking. My car does Livingston to Newcastle with all those occupants for £40 odd quid  It's hardly rocket science which is the out and out winner ... as for road rage thats a confrontational occurrence dont get out your car it goes away if it escalates from there its bodywork and paint nothing major ... Try non confrontational on a train or bus when there is some pissed up asshole intent on breaking a window or a face where do you go from there ?... it's not all the time they get arrested. Besides off topic as you say.
Stuball

The undergrounds test track has just been cleaned up and all the trees and weeds cut down....
cybers

Got photo's Stu ?
Gareth1974

james73 wrote:
Gareth1974 wrote:
Just remember that the first Advanced Passenger Trains in service in the UK were on the Glasgow-London route.  White elephants they may have been but the investment was made and they were actually built.

The APTs required more investment which the tories refused to give so BR
were forced to sell off the ideas. Now, there are Italian-built tilting trains,
Pendolinos, running on Britains railways using technology that Fiat bought
from who? Yep, that's right - British Rail. Goes back to what I said earlier
about lack of investment in the countrys railways.

Anyway, we're going a bit here....



James H


From what I understand it was the railways tracks themselves that couldn't take the APT.

I grew up in Toryglen, near the Polmadie Depot, and I remember seeing the APTs laid up there.  I also remember transporters full of British Leyland cars laid up on the sidings too because no one wanted to buy them but the unions still wanted to churn them out.

Seems there was plenty of money going about; was just going to the wrong places!

Anyway, to get back on topic, what about the proposal to extend the Glasgow Undergound?  I've seen ideas that expand it into the East of Glasgow; essentially making it form a 'figure of eight.'

I guess that's just a dream seeing as how the Scottish Government can't even construct a few miles of track to the airport or a tram system in Edinburgh.

Still ... maybe we'll get a .sco web domain someday ... lol?
pottle

Gareth1974 wrote:
'Radio Rental' there's a piece of rhyming slang you don't hear much now!



Ah,Radio Rental plenty of times and shop work really did my box in.
Trying to remember other shops and stores that were there in it's day.
There was a record shop near the bottom of Byres Road which facing Wilson's pub.It was next door to a show shop which ran into Dumbarton Road.
this shop sold cheapo records and at a price of a shilling upwards made this shop a must for records burs who didn't want to pay the earth for 45s and LPs.
There was two hair dressers here on the same block.
One was for the guys and the other was for the ladies.
At the ladies shop worked a gal called Charlotte McGovern and if's she's still there I still have her 'My Boy Lollipop'
Her mother had this party in Kingsway and somehow I got the record.
It would be highly unlightly that she is still on the crimp but if she is then I'll return her Millie with my thanks.The record in question came out in 64 and I got in 73.
Think the Hairdresser name was called a guys name,but then 38 years down the line the memory plays trick on one.
If anyone remembers the name of the record shop name then that would be great.
If Charlotte is reading this[i] 'Sorry, I took so long'.

Another shop from the day was'Haddows''
This shop was in Byres Road and faced'The Byre'
Think it was on Havelock Street as well.
You always get change at Haddows
Gareth1974

There was Visionhire too.

I remember back in the 1980's some people actually rented their colour TV's - some of them were coin operated.  Most of them in faux-wood cabinets.  If you didn't rent it then usually you could get one from whoever ran a catalogue agency with Great Universal or Littlewoods.

I remember our first colour TV, when the guy came to install it the first picture I saw was one of the first Space Shuttle missions.  This was back when they were televised live.

Before our colour TV we had black and white of course; ours had some rotating switch that just had BBC1, BBC2 and ITV.  One day the sound went on the blink so we borrowed one from the neighbour; this one had sound but no picture so it went under the table and we had a functioning TV service from the two.

Now the streets are full of widescreen CRT TV's left on the street for collection because all the people are upgrading them to flat screens.
pottle

Gareth1974 wrote:
There was Visionhire too.

I remember back in the 1980's some people actually rented their colour TV's - some of them were coin operated.  Most of them in faux-wood cabinets.  If you didn't rent it then usually you could get one from whoever ran a catalogue agency with Great Universal or Littlewoods.

I remember our first colour TV, when the guy came to install it the first picture I saw was one of the first Space Shuttle missions.  This was back when they were televised live.

Before our colour TV we had black and white of course; ours had some rotating switch that just had BBC1, BBC2 and ITV.  One day the sound went on the blink so we borrowed one from the neighbour; this one had sound but no picture so it went under the table and we had a functioning TV service from the two.

Now the streets are full of widescreen CRT TV's left on the street for collection because all the people are upgrading them to flat screens.



The Twiddly bit would have been the fine tuner.These were huge knobs and my late mother called me a knob twiddler as to my twiddling abilities on the old rented black and white sets.
My mother rented her set from a place called Bitish Relay which was situated in the Maryhill Road just down from Braeside Street.
Not many people back in the day bought sets as they couldn't afford to buy outright.
This was the easy option and if the thing broke down then they had to replace as it was a rented set.
Townhead,I only know the old Townhead of old with Parliamentry Road being the main Road.
Come to think of it I dated a female who came from Taylor Street.
The buildings in the old Townhead were far gone and only the imprint of the roads were still visible.
Her name was Boyle and she was into Rod Stewart.
For her Christmas I bought Rod's waxing of'This old Heart of mine''which was a remake of the old Isley Brothers waxing some years earlier.
She must have lived in one of the first
Highrise which was built there in Townhead.
Are they still there or have they met their doom as what happened in the Gorbals last year?
The Gorbals flats must have been the same year as the Townhead ones so it must have been the mid 70s or earlier?
So many years have passed and what ever happened to Miss Boyle?
Her Christian name was Alexandreena or just plain ole 'Dreena'
Can't rememeber what happened with that relationship as it just fizzled out.
I there a Kennedy Street there?
I think there was a street name change there but not sure.
Guess going down memory lane here........
M,m think laurel and Hardy got in the charts this year and that big guy with a tent.
Well, me brain is going all mush now
Guess it goes that way sometimes
Gareth1974

Townhead high-rises are still here because I live in one of them.

I lived in the Gallowgate twin towers for 2 and half years previously and it was like moving from besieged Sarajevo to Manhattan.
Jagz1876

pottle wrote:




Another shop from the day was'Haddows''
This shop was in Byres Road and faced'The Byre'
Think it was on Havelock Street as well.
You always get change at Haddows


Sorry Pottle, But you're thinking of the advert with the late great Ian Cuthbertson in it  for Haddows rivals Agnews. "There's always change at Agnews.
Stuball

Cybers, I'll see what I can do...

Guys, you keep straying off topic here
James

Gareth1974 wrote:
From what I understand it was the railways tracks themselves that couldn't take the APT.

Anyway, to get back on topic, what about the proposal to extend the Glasgow Undergound?  I've seen ideas that expand it into the East of Glasgow; essentially making it form a 'figure of eight.'

The tracks could take the tilting APT - it was designed to tilt on the existing
infrastructure unlike the French TGV which was completely built from scratch
track, signalling, trains the lot.

There's already a topic for discussing extentions to the subway here:
http://urbanglasgow.co.uk/about256.html

This thread was about the work done to the system in the 1970s. Might need
to tidy it up later...


James H
cybers

Back to the original subject so 1977-80 saw the renovation of the Subway and that in turn lasted till the present day and as far as i know slightly beyond before its needing overhauled again. but did they ever parade the new fibreglass trains round the schools of Glasgow like SPT touted the Freddy Fast Fare system ... as for some reason i have very vague memories of toddling through said train in Barrowfield Primary School as an anklebitter ?
Also remeber getting the paper dosh to put in the fast fare (NoChange Given) machine as well.
AlanM

cybers wrote:
Back to the original subject so 1977-80 saw the renovation of the Subway and that in turn lasted till the present day and as far as i know slightly beyond before its needing overhauled again. but did they ever parade the new fibreglass trains round the schools of Glasgow like SPT touted the Freddy Fast Fare system ... as for some reason i have very vague memories of toddling through said train in Barrowfield Primary School as an anklebitter ?
Also remeber getting the paper dosh to put in the fast fare (NoChange Given) machine as well.


You may have been taken to see the train which was displayed in George Square whilst the improvement works were underway
cybers

That might be it Alan but for some reason i mind it in the school playdround on a flatbed...
They tended to keep barrowfield weans oot the toon back then   I went a school trip to the zoo and the gift shop looked like a plague of locust had descended !
James

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGeHgdMVujM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osLdmPaZjhs&feature=related



James H
fatweegee

Gareth1974 wrote:
Not so sure I can follow the notion that Scotland never got anything built here - some of the most impressive bridges in the UK are in Scotland  - as well as Glasgow being one of 3 cities in the UK with an underground system.  You just have to take into account too that the main motorways in England were built to deal with a higher volume of traffic.

As for the high-speed rail links not being built in Scotland well I'm not so sure I can follow the dominant logic either that 'whatever gets built shouldn't have been; what isn't being built should be.'  This seems to be the logic applied to any transport project in Scotland and a lot of energy is lost in the parochial politics of Holyrood.

Just remember that the first Advanced Passenger Trains in service in the UK were on the Glasgow-London route.  White elephants they may have been but the investment was made and they were actually built.


Maybe only 3 UK Cities with 'Undergrounds' - but Glasgows is the only one where all passenger lines are totally underground. and not forgetting we actually have 2 underground systems in Glasgow - Large gauge and small gauge.
stranger

cybers wrote:
Back to the original subject so 1977-80 saw the renovation of the Subway and that in turn lasted till the present day and as far as i know slightly beyond before its needing overhauled again.


Funny the original one lasted from 1896 till 1977 before it needed overhauled, 31 years doesn't seem like a long time compared to that, does it really need the complete renovation they are talking about, I read some scare stories last year about it closing completely, or is it just another case of people not being able to live without something being completely renewed every few years.
cybers

stranger wrote:
cybers wrote:
Back to the original subject so 1977-80 saw the renovation of the Subway and that in turn lasted till the present day and as far as i know slightly beyond before its needing overhauled again.


Funny the original one lasted from 1896 till 1977 before it needed overhauled, 31 years doesn't seem like a long time compared to that, does it really need the complete renovation they are talking about, I read some scare stories last year about it closing completely, or is it just another case of people not being able to live without something being completely renewed every few years.


Agreed but it falls into line with spending plans set out forever in stone.
"Spend a tenner to save a quid"
Getting rid of the driver is the start of a great improvement program but will it be open 24 hours a day to meet the progressive society we live in ?
Surely they will be getting a white meter installed so they dont need to pay the computer time and a half after 10.
AlanM

cybers wrote:
stranger wrote:
cybers wrote:
Back to the original subject so 1977-80 saw the renovation of the Subway and that in turn lasted till the present day and as far as i know slightly beyond before its needing overhauled again.


Funny the original one lasted from 1896 till 1977 before it needed overhauled, 31 years doesn't seem like a long time compared to that, does it really need the complete renovation they are talking about, I read some scare stories last year about it closing completely, or is it just another case of people not being able to live without something being completely renewed every few years.


Agreed but it falls into line with spending plans set out forever in stone.
"Spend a tenner to save a quid"
Getting rid of the driver is the start of a great improvement program but will it be open 24 hours a day to meet the progressive society we live in ?
Surely they will be getting a white meter installed so they dont need to pay the computer time and a half after 10.


Driver wages aren't the principal reason for the lack of longer running at the moment its the inspection/maintenance regime.

I don't see 24 hr running as a possibility as there will still be a requirement to conduct track inspections and maintenance tasks.
cybers

Aye Alan but its no open on a Sunday....
Stuball

AlanM wrote:

I don't see 24 hr running as a possibility as there will still be a requirement to conduct track inspections and maintenance tasks.


Easy... run one circle, maintain the other
AlanM

that is a stonking solution Stu.
the researcher

Stuball wrote:
AlanM wrote:

I don't see 24 hr running as a possibility as there will still be a requirement to conduct track inspections and maintenance tasks.


Easy... run one circle, maintain the other

run the circles as said above either alternate week about or night about
as the meerkat says"simples"
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