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joao40

Govan - Partick bridge

One piece of infrastructure that I think could help Glasgow develop more is if they were to build a bridge from govan across to partick.

A good place for the bridge to be built would be from the area east of the govan old parish church, which is is currently being used as a caravan park, across the Clyde to the area on the north bank which is to the north west of the new transport museum, which is currently unoccupied by any buildings, the road could join up to castlebank/hayburn street junction area.

The bridge could be a similar design if not the same design as the squinty bridge (clyde arc)

This would "only" cost approx £20m pounds to build but it would help the underrated govan area develop tremendously as it would allow easy access to the west end etc.

It would also give people of partick area better access to the new southern general hospital as they wouldn't have to go through the tunnel.
Stuball

It's a good idea in principle but the only problem I see there is where the bridge lands in Govan... Water Row and that part of Govan rood just isn't big enough or wide enough to take the sudden influx of vehicles to that area, even with the new layout of Golspie Street.
£20m may also be quite a conservative estimate as this bridge would have to open to allow boats such as the Waverley through to it's docking position at the Science centre any other boat to the pontoons. Part of the reason the Clyde Arc and the Tradeston footbridge go up, is to allow smaller boats to pass under.
Marblez

Personally I don't think it would really work. You already have the Clyde Tunnel and the Squinty Bridge for vehicular traffic and there is the ferry across the river at that location for pedestrian traffic. Also the subway passes under the river at that point which allows another way to "cross" the river. As Stu said the Waverley is berthed at the Science Centre, having being moved from her original berth at Anderston Quay to allow the Squinty Bridge to be built in the first place
joao40

Marblez wrote:
Personally I don't think it would really work. You already have the Clyde Tunnel and the Squinty Bridge for vehicular traffic and there is the ferry across the river at that location for pedestrian traffic. Also the subway passes under the river at that point which allows another way to "cross" the river. As Stu said the Waverley is berthed at the Science Centre, having being moved from her original berth at Anderston Quay to allow the Squinty Bridge to be built in the first place


Yes I guess a road bridge would mean that the Waverly would have to berth even further down river. They could consider building a pedestrian bridge similar to Bells Bridge that can rotate when the Waverly needs to pass, that would eliminate the cost of running the Govan pedestrian ferry. A couple of other negative points would be a road bridge would also mean that the Glenlee would need to be demasted to get it under should they ever want to move it. Plus this may prevent big ships being put on permanent display in the Govan graving dry docks, should anyone ever wish to do something similar to how the HMS Victory is on display in an old dry dock in Portsmouth.

Does anyone know what the plans are for that area of wasteland to the north west of the transport museum are? There is the quite nicely designed Scotway House at the north end of the site, which hopefully nobody is planning on levelling.

Another bridge that they could consider building is a relatively short pedestrian/cyclist bridge across the gap between the Govan graving docks and the Glasgow tower, as a shortcut instead of going around the princes dock. Unless they are planning on filling in the remaining part of the princes dock at some point.
cybers

Where to start:

Scotway House is back on the market for sale after the deal to turn it into Scotlands Museum of Music collapsed. As the building is listed no doubt there will be flames on site shortly after any deal is concluded. The rest of the site has a planning application for housing and office but how this application progressed is a mystery. As for a new bridge Doubt that will ever happen as has been said before Waverley berths at the Science Centre and the proposed plans for a maritime heritage museum at Govan would all but put it to bed.

As for the short cut there is still the ferry ... no one uses that does not run on a friday  
norrie

Anybody heard about the old Pump House, close to SECC, being converted  and added to, its going to be a distillery
Marblez

joao40 wrote:

Another bridge that they could consider building is a relatively short pedestrian/cyclist bridge across the gap between the Govan graving docks and the Glasgow tower, as a shortcut instead of going around the princes dock. Unless they are planning on filling in the remaining part of the princes dock at some point.


There was a bridge over that gap during the Garden Festival but I think it was only for the wee train which ran round the site. It would be more viable one the proposed housing development for the old Graving Docks gets off the ground, unless the local residents complain about people cutting through .....

I can't see them filling in the old canting dock, I would have expected that to have gone when it was filled in for the Garden Festival almost 30 years ago, but it was retained then so no reason to think it will go anytime soon
Marblez

Scotway House


Shipyard Relic by D1gitAl Imagez
joao40

norrie wrote:
Anybody heard about the old Pump House, close to SECC, being converted  and added to, its going to be a distillery


Yeah the work on that site was meant to have started in the second half of 2014 and finished by the Autumn of this year. Cycled past it recently and there is no sign of construction work beginning whatsoever. Hopefully the project doesn't get cancelled. It looks like the perfect used of the site.

The new development looks like a great use for the site, far far better than the previous one of "Curry Karaoke"...

The distillery company is currently based out a hillington industrial estate. The new site is a much better location.

http://www.scotlandnow.dailyrecor...ky-distillery-built-heart-3803397

https://glasgowdistillery.com/
joao40

Marblez wrote:
joao40 wrote:

Another bridge that they could consider building is a relatively short pedestrian/cyclist bridge across the gap between the Govan graving docks and the Glasgow tower, as a shortcut instead of going around the princes dock. Unless they are planning on filling in the remaining part of the princes dock at some point.


There was a bridge over that gap during the Garden Festival but I think it was only for the wee train which ran round the site. It would be more viable one the proposed housing development for the old Graving Docks gets off the ground, unless the local residents complain about people cutting through .....

I can't see them filling in the old canting dock, I would have expected that to have gone when it was filled in for the Garden Festival almost 30 years ago, but it was retained then so no reason to think it will go anytime soon


There is a housing development for the graving docks? I can't find anything about it online.

I've always thought a good use for the dry docks would be to put 3 Clyde built ships into them on permanent dry dock similar to how the HMS victory is in Portsmouth.

Perhaps one or two passenger ships that could potentially be converted to hotels and a cargo ship there as tourist attraction.

The HMY Britannia would have been a good one to put in there... if she would have fit, bit late now anyway.
norrie

Hi Joao40, well that backs up what the site engineer told me, Campbells, the construction company he works for, has the job, he will keep me posted
Marblez

joao40 wrote:

There is a housing development for the graving docks? I can't find anything about it online.


http://www.futureglasgow.co.uk/ Click on "Infrastructure" then scroll down and click on "Graving Docks" for images


Graving Docks
Present site

   Developer - Bishop Loch
   Architect - Valode and Pistre, ZM Architects
   Usage - Residential
   Height - Towers 1 : 21 floors, ~65.1m
   Towers 2 : 17 floors, ~52.7m Towers 3 : 12 floors, ~37.2m
   Area - 900,000sq ft
   Flats - 1039
   Cost - £150 million
   Location - Govan
   Status - Planning
   Start date - 2006
   Completion date - 2013

An intelligent residential scheme in Glasgow. Whatever next? A new pedestrian footbridge will connect the Science Centre to the docks along a linear park. The unique nature of the site requires parking to be split between silo spaces in two reclaimed docks (the third will be kept as a water feature) and split level undercroft parking with planted roof. The riverfront will be refurbished to prevent flooding and provide public access, focussed on a new plaza. Cutting edge architecture in Govan? Believe. An extended gestation has survived loss of a hotel, but the site remains a tremendously awkward build, something of a ZM speciality. Anticipating some flesh on these bones.

That being said ... given the dates the project has either been shelved or tossed in the river !
joao40

The govan partick bridge has been given the go ahead:

http://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news...bridge-gap-between-govan-11181845

Some concerts about maritime traffic:

https://clydedocks.wordpress.com/...-clearances-govan-partick-bridge/
Stuball

Interesting but it doesn't really confirm that it WILL be built... just £6.7M on planning it
Catnip

cybers wrote:
Scotway House is back on the market for sale after the deal to turn it into Scotlands Museum of Music collapsed. As the building is listed no doubt there will be flames on site shortly after any deal is concluded.


cybers called it. :(
Kevin_Mc

my friend stays close by and sent me a photo of it burning on Friday night. Seen it coming a mile off.
James

Catnip wrote:
cybers wrote:
Scotway House is back on the market for sale after the deal to turn it into Scotlands Museum of Music collapsed. As the building is listed no doubt there will be flames on site shortly after any deal is concluded.


cybers called it. :(

Not half.

http://urbanglasgow.co.uk/sutra129783.php#129783



James H

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