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nantid

HELP! 1866 City Improvement Trust

NEED info regarding any Glasgow churches  removed on or about 1886.  Sorry to be a bother, but I need as much info as possible ASAP.  The city of Sarasota, Florida has stones from a church demolished during that period and no one remembers which church it was.  The stones have been used in the construction of a monument and which is to be rededicated in early December.
okaydoak

Hiya,
Welcome to the Forum.

Without knowing exactly what you are re-erecting in Sarasota(is it just a column - or more?) it is difficult to identify where it may have come from,but my hunch would be that they are fragments from the Old College of Glasgow.

The University re-located to the leafy West End of the City in the 1870s,from its original site to the east of the High Street.The old College/University had been an impressive collection of Mediaeval,Renaissance,and Georgian buildings,and it is shocking (now) to think that they were demolished to make way for a railway Goods Station.

Various fragments of the old buildings were saved and re-erected at the new location,so it is possible that other pieces were saved as well.The site was finally cleared of all the buildings in 1885 (which would fit in with your timescale).

Depending on what you have over in Florida,it might be colums from the pedimented front of the old Hunterian Museum,or it could be fragments from the Old College Church,or some of the other buildings.

Do you know if any of the original Glasgow settlers in Sarasota had any link with the University?

Regards,
Chris.
nantid

Thank-you for the information. The information does fit.  All I was told was that the stones came from a front column of an old church. The stones were sandstone and included the base, two sections of the pillar, and the" Corinthian" top.

Regarding any affiliation with the university, I do not know.  I will check on this later if you are interested.

Nancy
cybers

If you could supply an Image of said pillar etc I am sure one of our older members (Norrie) will remember it in situ.    

Though we do have a pretty good track record for determining things from photos I am sure one of the memberes could narrow it down.
okaydoak

Hi Nancy,
Having done a wee bit more research,I now think that it is unlikely that the column came from one of the Old College buildings.It seems that most of them were demolished in the early 1870s,with the only one surviving to 1885 being the one that was substantially re-erected at the new University as a Lodge.

Corinthian-capped columns do not seem to have been a feature on any of the Old College buildings that I have seen photographs of,and the columns at the front of the old Hunterian Museum had Doric cappings.

The column must therefore have come from a church,as you had thought,and possibly one demolished to make way for a railway line or one of the big Glasgow stations.One for our railway buffs,maybe!

Regards,
Chris.
nantid

Link to said statue photo is below

One other possibility is the Wesleyan chapel from Admiral street. Standing in 1983 but partly demolished by 85, now gone completely.

http://www.yourobserver.com/news/...-Page/0719201328167/gallery/#drop
streapadair

I'm confused - in your opening post you said 1886, now you suggest a chapel demolished in the 1980s - which is it? Admiral St looks like a good call, if the latter.
nantid

Sorry for the confusion.  We were lead to believe that the church was built in about 1886 and torn down in about 1985.
N
nantid

Here is a photo of the Statuary before it was moved to the park
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bfxy36fb5hyzrhc/Scottish%20Statuary.jpg


Also, for fun
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d2tkyyt...ry%20of%20the%20STONES.docx[/url]
okaydoak

Hi Nancy,

Thanks for clarifying the latest identity for the column.The old Wesleyan Chapel in Glasgow's Admiral Street seems to be a positive - I have had a look at an old photograph,and your Corinthian capping seems to match those on the four columns on the frontage.

The church was built in 1871 to the design of notable Glasgow Architect John Honeyman,and in its latter days,the church was used as an Auction Hall.It was unfortunately burnt down in 1985,but it looks as if somebody had the foresight to salvage part of the features.I can confirm that a shopping centre was not built on the site,as the newspaper article seemed to think.

Regards,
Chris.
nantid

Now I am curious!  What was built on the site?  

Thanks to everyone who played detective with me. I do think we have figured it out!

I will try to send some updates from the dedication on Friday.

Enjoy our "Story of the Stones"
https://www.dropbox.com/s/65vimfb...e%20Story%20of%20the%20STONES.pdf
streapadair

Hi, this is the best photo I could find of the Admiral St Methodist Chapel (borrowed from http://www.rcahms.gov.uk/canmore.html , hope they don't mind).

so while not conclusive, the columns and the date do seem to fit nicely.

The tall building adjoining on the left, which extended right back to the next street, Stanley St, was originally Wotherspoon's confectionery works but latterly became a warehouse for Edward McNeil's packaging business. This burnt down in May 1985
 
and this was probably the end of the road for the chapel too.

Kinning Park Medical Centre stands on the site now, the red-roofed buildings.
http://goo.gl/maps/slHwJ

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