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Nitshill and Surrounding Area part 3

Who'd have guessed that one small district in the suburbs of Glasgow would generate so much interest and valuable contribution that's now onto it's 3rd thread?

Once again many thanks to all those who have contributed either pictures or anecdotal accounts or both. Your additions are what has made this topic one of the most successful on UG. On behalf of Admin and his dog... Thankyou

OK folks it's round three so fire away....
mr.underwood

Cleeves Road

Hi all,I remember the prefabs at the Priesthill end of Cleeves Road very well
.I walked my girlfriend up that road to her parents house regularly.One of
the guys we used to meet at Paisley Ice Rink lived in one of the prefabs.
The brick works were still in operation in those days also.

.
stephen

Hi folks. In reply to Jock 58's most recent post, yes I do remember the wee shop across from the UNITAS building . We used to frequent it on a Sunday on occasion but more often than not we would walk down through Thornliebank past the Bowling Green on the left and visit the sweet shop just beyond. In the winter this was at my request as the wee hut Jock58 refers to didn't sell "Victory V Lozenges" Does anyone remember them or am I the only saddo? I also remember the house you refer to Jock and know this was a throwback to when the area was the industrial area I mentioned previously. (when the area was used for fabric printing and dyeing) This industry in Spiersbridge was the domain of the Crum Family who not only operated the Printing concern but were also responsible for the generation of the Thornliebank area in the 1850's. Walter Crum was involved in the development of not only the UNITAS Building but the Library next to it, the Church at Spiersbridge but most significantly the purchase of Rouken Glen. I  also remember the "Puggy " Jock but I thought for years it got it's name from the fact that when Arden was first built there was no access whatsoever to Carnwadric where my Gran lived as did yours, so people had no choice but to walk over the spare ground which was essentially just a field. This obviously very quickly became a ploughed field and was very muddy and messy which in my 4 or 5 year old brain translated to "Puggy" In fact the name comes from the single engine used to shunt railway carriages or trucks about. In fact I remember seeing one such engine on the line on more than one occasion.I can't quite remember the circumstances and don't know if the tracks were lifted and relaid (just where Hopeman Road is now) when it became necessary to do so. Today I spoke to one or two people regarding the Landfill up at Southpark and they seem to be of the same mind as myself. I will continue to check this out. One last observation for now. After reading all the posts (in too short a time and has therefore become a bit of a blur) I don't remember much if anything being mentioned about the Hurlet. Turning left at the lights on the Hurlet leads you into a wee village type place. (immediate left through the gap in the wall) And further on if you turn up Grahamstone Road towards Dykebar then a quick left into Grahamstone Place there is a row of about twelve cottages (semi detached) They seem to have been built at different times, about haf and half, but the first two sets have plaques or inscriptions dating back to 1870. Miners cottages? I'm gonna stop babbling now. It's probably because I'm not allowed to talk much at home. Stephen.  
Alex Glass

Thanks for giving us all something other subjects to explore Stephen.




James Crum was as I understand part of the Crum family you referred to.

I am sure there are lots of photos of various members of the Crum family on the East Renfrewshire Council heritage site.

They cottages you mentioned Stephen sound interesting. Do you think the residents would mind someone taking photos?

A third thread  who would have believed that this would have kept running. If I am not mistaken it has been less than a year that thread two has been on the go.

Well done for all the contributions

I hope to get something to post up soon that may help to take us to a fourth thread.
bigdrew

Good stuff about Nitshill and environs..
There should be lots more stories and 'legends' about growing-up in the area.
A site I came across several years ago still has some great flashback materials...
Try:
http://greaterpollokheritagegroup.webs.com/memories1.htm
Jock58

Hi All
For my own interest I have been looking into the history of Parkhouse farm.
I found this and though some of you may enjoy the read.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~renfrewshire/
The Young's were farming there as early as the 1841 census and i think well before that.

When James Young  emigrated to Canada a family called Weir took over they show up on the 1871 census living there.

Jock58
stephen

Hi folks. Just a quick thank you to Mr.Underwood for the confirmation regarding the prefabs next to the brickworks. I've been digging into my memory so much in the last week or so I thought I was beginning to make stuff up. Like yourself Mr. Underwood I was just a tourist. In my case I  was in the area only when I went to visit yet more cousins who lived in the tenements in Glenmuir Drive which also have fallen foul of the demolition man. Stephen.(new kid on the Brock)
John

Stephen I have a vague memory of the prefabs there as a 10 year old exploring in the 70`s, might be exaggerating, but there ye go  memory is playing up:roll:
Trapper John

I believe the name of the wee shop across from the Unitas building in Thornliebank was Campbells which Mrs. Campbell ran for some time.
Alex Glass

Welcome to Urban Glasgow Trapper John

Do you know lots about the area which you can share with us. We like hearing about other people's memories. Look forward to reading more of your posts.
sputnik

i have really enjoyed this thread even though i am not glaswegian.my dads side of the family are all soosiders,darnley,castlemilk,east kilbride,cardonald.my sister in laws family came from south nitshill and i told her about this site but she isnt online,her family are called truesdale,its not a common name and someone on here may recall them from 60s 70s.
mr.underwood

Truesdale

Sputnik,There used to be a guy called Tommy Truesdale on WestSound
Radio when I lived in Ayrshire ,might be a relative.
Jock58

Hi sputnik

I don't recall that name. I think if i knew them i would remember,, as you said its not a common name.
I knew people from all over the scheme but mainly the  kids a similar age to me.

Jock58
gerry

I remember Truesdales from South Nitshill. Im sure they came from Whithope Road. I cant recall the names of them all but im sure there was a girl , possibly Jackie and possibly a couple of brothers although the memory may be playing tricks on me. I used to run around with a few friends from Whithope Rd and thats why i remember the name. I would think the lady in question would be late forties and went to Nitshill Primary.
stephen

Hi Folks. I found this site which shows my memory is at least partially intact. http://www.damstodarnley.org/index.php?id=71 Also found this.> http://www.eastrenfrewshire.gov.u...s-and-innovations/walter-crum.htm Stephen.
sputnik

gerry,well remembered mate.that is my sister in law,moved to clydebank late seventies been there since she has.
stephen

Gerry, how' s your brother Mick these days? Stephen. :
gerry

Stephen, you have the jump on me here mate as i dont know your surname. Mick is doing well. Hes still living and working in Pollok. Hes working in the Civic Realm . Last year he became a Grandad and hes had a new lease of life. I will let him know you were asking for him. Cheers                                                                                                              Gerry.
stephen

Gerry, I know Mick from his time as a taxi driver. He will know me straight away as we were the only two taxi drivers in Pollok who knew how to turn on a computer. (Mick told me how to.) I guessed he was a Grandad because I saw him pushing a buggy a few weeks ago at Silverburn. I hope he"s keeping well now that he's got a cushy number. Stephen.
gerry

Stephen, hes doing well and will be delighted when i tell him someone actually likes him enough to ask about his wellbeing   . On a more serious note, you asked if anyone remembered Victory V lozenges. I actually introduce some of my Grandkids to them a matter of weeks ago and they loved them. I thought they would hate them but unfortunately that wasnt the case and i had to share them. I will let Mick know about this forum as he will probably enjoy it as much as i have . Both he and his wife June grew up in South Nithill so lots of nice memories on here for them too. Cheers. Gerry.
Jock58

Hi All
Here's a photo i found while rummaging around. It shows the back of the afore mentioned prefabs on Carnwadric rd.
Granddad Boyle is in his garden behind 11 Northpark Avenue.



My Gran's close would be just about where the washing line pole is. By the way her name was Bendoris.
Ardconnel st is to the left.
I think this would be mid 50's as you see there is no fence on the RSD boundary.

Jock58
stephen

Great photo Jock 58. Takes me back a bit. The last line of your post did however prompt a discussion between myself and a previous resident of Arden. I remember a time when there was no perimeter fence along the Carnwadric Road side of the RSD. I seem to recall an element of surprise when the black painted corrugated iron fence was erected. My workmate, who is quite a bit older, but has a much better memory than me seems to think the fence was always there. Perhaps you can throw some light on this topic. The same workmate who went to Bellarmine also remembers a classmate with the surname "Bendoris" (a cousin perhaps)?   Stephen.
Jock58

Hi Stephen
I remember the very large (to a wee kid) corrugated fence, but i seem to remember it as a Grey color. I think this photo shows it was there in the 50's as it is seen at the border line of the last prefab.
There is something on the Carnwadric road its self so maybe it was in place there before it was extended along the back gardens of North park.

I posted before we used to cross the road and enter the RSD through a gap in the fence at the corner of the last prefab's garden.

I had 2 Aunts & an Uncle that went to Bellarmine  Sandra, Billy & Shirley but she preferred Maggie.
Billy turned 60 this year, sadly Sandra & Maggie are no longer with us.
Jock58
Trapper John

Hi there.There was some chat a while ago about Considines Cafe on the Nitshill Road.I seem to remember reading about it having been a bicycle repair shop at the turn of the last century .It was owned by the Andersons and when cars came on the scene it became a garage.The same Andersons later expanded and eventually had the big car dealership which was situated at the Mearns  Cross on the Ayr Road .Now gone too
Alex Glass

Welcome to Urban Glasgow Trapper John

Thanks very much for the information. Do you have any other information about this area?
Trapper John

Someone mentioned earlier about an military establishment near Cowglen Hospital.It was where the Savings Bank is now.The buildings were set back off Boydstone Rd. Between the road and the buildings they used to have alsation guard dogs tethered on a chain about 100 feet long and attached to a wire about 100 feet long so that they could patrol the whole area in front of the base.We used to torment the dogs on our way home from school.Shame on us.That was in the early Sixties.
stephen

Thanks Jock58 for the information with regards to the fence at the RSD. (Damn memory is full of holes, just the same as said fence some years later, which worked to my advantage in helping me to avoid the long arm of the law. There were more delights in the area than raspberries and such, Do you remember the Marshmallow Factory?) I will also let my mate at work know about your uncle Billy. Small world or what? Also, welcome Trapper John. I knew that Considine's was old but I didn't realise it went back quite so far. I bet you remember more about Nitshill and Surrounding Area than just the shops that sold sweets. Do you have any information about the Anderson family or even the Crum family? Just a shot in the dark but do you know why St. Bernards changed it's name to Bellarmine? Stephen.





     
Alex Glass

Would also like to know more about Carnwadric Stephen so get that memory of yours dusted down.

Drew is the archive yours by any chance? If so are you making it available here?

I will be adding more photos to the South Nitshill Gala Photobucket pages as soon as I get them all scanned.

Here are a couple more







Who remembers the Band and what year did they play outside the Community Centre for the Gala?
Jock58

Hi All
Great sets there.
Alex the photo of the pipe band & the bus would that be Whinfield/Parkhouse rd ? been 25 years but I'm pretty sure it is.

Stephen i do remember the Marshmallow Factory but sadly i never liked them.
So while the rest were tucking in to the feast of coconut teacakes i just had to stand bye and watch.
I don't remember ever getting chased out of there, so were local kids allowed in?
Trapper John

Hi Stephen. St Bernards Sec.School changed its name to Bellarmine shortly after it opened.It was one of the first Comprehensive schools in that it was made up of a Junior Sec school and a Senior Sec school in the same building.Previous to that these schools were separate and each would have had different names.Since there had been previously the St Bernards Junior Sec in Nitshill they changed the name of the new Comprehesive School in Cowglen Rd to avoid the confusion with the Junior School.Couldnt have people thinking that smart kids who passed their 'Quali' were at a Junior Sec  school !The local Primary School was St Roberts ,named after 16th Century Saint--St Roberto Bellarmino,hence Bellarmine Sec School Two "O" Levels ???
Alex Glass

Best Laid Schemes

Stumbled across a great wee site full of little films on Glasgow.

Check out this one about

Pollok and Priesthill Housing Developments
stephen

Hi folks. Thanks Trapper John for the info. with regards to St. Roberto Bellarmino. Now that you have enlightened me I vaguely remember being told something of that nature in the dim and distant. (I don't really, I'm just trying to kid myself) The military establishment which you described on Boydestone Road is obviously the same one that I remember as a ruin which backed onto Fairhill Avenue just up from the Ambulance Depot which was just to the side of Bellarmine. Do you know anything about the Military Base? e.g. Was it just a convalescent establishment or was it American or something else all together? Jock 58, well remembered with coconut teacakes. Something else I had completely forgot. In answer to your question regarding whether kids were allowed in or not it was definitely in the negative. On the evening in question (the evening of my flight through the RSD) I just happened to be in the area when some scallywags (I believe they hailed from Arden) decided to liberate the aforementioned marshmallows and teacakes from  within the confines of the Marshmallow Factory. As this was a fairly frequent occurrence the owners had put the Police on marshmallow alert and on the night in question they were there in jig time. For myself as these rascals (alleged rascals) flew by me at light speed I decided " plausible deniability" was not an option. I therefore took to my toes. At this point an officer decided to pursue me. It was shortly after this I had my encounter with the RSD fence. Over, under, left or right? I chose correctly and was soon in the wide open spaces of Carnwadric Road just at the junction with Ardconnel Street. Stephen.  
Trapper John

Stephen, there is quite a bit of info about the Cowglen army base and Hospital on Google.
stephen

Many thanks T.J. I've had a look and found a great photograph courtesy of Alex Glass. It shows Bellarmine and the Ambulance Depot as well as the old shops at the Bundy. I will however need to spend some time looking at the photo to get my bearings. Thanks again to you and Alex. Stephen.  
stephen

Hi folks. I've just been re-reading the earlier posts from Part 1 and Part 2 which is what got me interested in Nitshill and Surrounding Areas in the first place. On my first reading I was guilty of skipping through and therefore missed quite a bit. It is even more interesting on the second read. Great stuff. This time round I noticed a couple of references to Jenny Lynn or Jenny Lind. Does anyone know where this wee scheme got it's name? Someone once told me of a Swedish opera singer from the 19th century by the same name  (Jenny Lind) who had worldwide fame for some reason. Any ideas? Stephen.
benny1954

Stephen,

My understanding was that the area was so named as the land owner possibly the Crum family were big fans of her. She was a very popular singer in the mid 19th century so this may possibly be true.
I do remember a lttle cabin type shop on the main rd there which sold Jubblys . Used to go in there on the way back from a safari from Rouken Glen on our bikes.
John

Alex Glass wrote:


I will be adding more photos to the South Nitshill Gala Photobucket pages as soon as I get them all scanned.

Here are a couple more







Who remembers the Band and what year did they play outside the Community Centre for the Gala?


I remember the band Alex, but can`t remember what they were called.
The singer in the first pic is John Scott who is still in a band today called Casper & Co.


http://casperandco.co.uk/default.aspx
Alex Glass

Thanks Scary
Flash1974

Here's some pictures I took while out and about in the Souh-West corner of the city to add to the thread although there are similar pictures that exist in the earlier submissions (never thought of entering into the dilapidated properties).

I was working for the Department of Civil Engineering at Strathclyde Uni at the time and one of my missions was to take pictures of the M77, Traffic hotspots and general shots around the area between Peat Road and Parkhouse Road.



Nitshill Road at Nitshill Station - 26th August 2002



Derelict Tenements (Whitehaugh Road at Woodfoot Road) - 26th August 2002



Whitehaugh Raod at Whitehaugh Crescent (Darnley & Castlemilk in the background) - 26th August 2002



Derelict Tenements (Whitehaugh Road) - 26th August 2002
Kenny

Brilliant stuff people! Brings back a load of memories. Thanks for this. Hope you keep it up. Kenny.
Alex Glass

Welcome to Urban Glasgow Kenny

Look forward to hearing some of your recollections.
paulsco

Hi all, First post on here, i have been looking at the site for a while now and have really enjoyed looking at the pictures of "southie" I was raised along with my extended family in Woodfoot Quad from 1970 onwards before moving over to parkhouse estate when it was built,My Grandad lived in Woodfoot until the very end. I have great memories of the place and the wee sunday school beside woodfoot path anyone got photo's of that?
Cheers Paul
Geoege Graham

REMEMBERING DAYS GONE.

Hi all, I came from Nitshill and I used to stay in Galston ST with my Gran & Grandad then we moved to stay accross the road from  Mr Curie On the Nitshill RD in the house in the woods and I was told the was  mine disaster was on the Red hills (COVERED IN RED GRIT) at the Hurlet. I also remember the brick works on the Ceeves rd it covered the whole area before Cleeves Quad was ever erected when I was wee. There was a few of us and we used to go to the garage on Nitshill RD (SADDLY GONE NOW) we used to play in all the broked motors. When I lived with my Gran there used to be 2 men who stood at the corner of the street and did there bookie, every time the police came the board would get tossed into a garden till they went away, then the board came out till next time. ANY BODY REMEMBER.

Very happy days that will never come back.  
Alex Glass

Hi Paul and George

 to Urban Glasgow

Glad to hear you both have a story to tell. Please fell free to tell ua about your memories of growing up in the area.

I have been contacted by someone from Canada. I have a copy of her Chronicles of Nitshill and will ask for her permission to post it on here. She has also sent me three old school photos which of I can work out how to convert them from a PDF I will ask her if it is ok to post them as well.
mellbhoy

hi all, first post,brilliant site!!! I was brought up in south nitshill and know it in side out,looking at the pics i could tell you what was written on the pavement etc lol, i lived firstly in the triangle where your pictures of the roundabout are, i remember the fire at the stables and the crash on the road where the lad was killed hitting a lamp post there. Also the baked bean truck that crashed there and we lived on the beans for ages!!! After a fire in the close we were moved to whitacres rd. I used to go to the unit at nitshill primary and have great memories of being brought up there with many fine people!!! it was a great place!!! also in that field opposite they used to grow turnips!!! yup right in front of a housing estate!!! biggest allotment in europe!!! ha ha great days,would love to chat to anybody about southie!!!
Alex Glass

Welcome to Urban Glasgow mellbhoy

There are a lot of people on here with memories of Southie. I lived on Whitacres Road the part that was th path through to Parkhouse Road at the top of Whiltonburn Road.

Have you seen all the photos on the Legends thread. LEt us know if you can put names to the faces.
Jock58

mellbhoy wrote:
i lived firstly in the triangle where your pictures of the roundabout are,
also in that field opposite they used to grow turnips!!! yup right in front of a housing estate!!! biggest allotment in europe!!! ha ha great days,would love to chat to anybody about southie!!!


Hi Mellbhoy
Who do i know from that area ? Kids of my age. The Gambles, the Coats, Carol Ann Barbour, Carol Hart. Ian Meecham, Ian McGill Janet Bracken , John Fisher.
Any those names ring a bell
I remember one year they even had a crop of potatoes in that field
Don't think there was much left to harvest once the locals had their share.

Jock58
mellbhoy

yep i knew john coats,they were a couple of years older than me, i grew up with the mcareavies gerry was a year older than me.I used to be the paper boy for most of whitacres rd and parkhouse!!! i lived below the hasties and lesleys on whitacres rd. I live down in Blackpool now,it was john smith who told me about this site,now he has tons of pics and is gonna put them on.I also remember the smarts, hutchinsons, I remember most people like yesterday!!! cant believe its all gone!! I used to go to st bernards,now they were a football team!!! best team in glasgow schools!!! mr boyle was the manager. Great times
mellbhoy

Alex Glass wrote:
Welcome to Urban Glasgow mellbhoy

There are a lot of people on here with memories of Southie. I lived on Whitacres Road the part that was th path through to Parkhouse Road at the top of Whiltonburn Road.

Have you seen all the photos on the Legends thread. LEt us know if you can put names to the faces.
The guy with the can of beer,Is that not the famous "the mill" used to see him go round with the hole in the wall gang!!! behind the cavy!!! you would say hello mill, he'd say mills the mill!!! sure its him
mellbhoy

Jock58 wrote:
mellbhoy wrote:
i lived firstly in the triangle where your pictures of the roundabout are,
also in that field opposite they used to grow turnips!!! yup right in front of a housing estate!!! biggest allotment in europe!!! ha ha great days,would love to chat to anybody about southie!!!


Hi Mellbhoy
Who do i know from that area ? Kids of my age. The Gambles, the Coats, Carol Ann Barbour, Carol Hart. Ian Meecham, Ian McGill Janet Bracken , John Fisher.
Any those names ring a bell
I remember one year they even had a crop of potatoes in that field
Don't think there was much left to harvest once the locals had their share.

Jock58
yep I remenber the gambles,was it jim gamble? the logans,rab fox, tee fox, skit mckricket, haha i can see them all now lol
Stuball

Alex Glass wrote:
Thanks for giving us all something other subjects to explore Stephen.




James Crum was as I understand part of the Crum family you referred to.

I am sure there are lots of photos of various members of the Crum family on the East Renfrewshire Council heritage site.


Could this be the same family?





Found in Eastwood Old Cemetery
Alex Glass

I beleive it is the same family Stu

There are images of some members of this family on the East Renfrewshire Council Heritage site
Hertz Van Rental

I only stumbled upon this site by chance today and have spent the last few hours enjoying both visual and written accounts of Nitshill and its environs. Well done to all.
I spent most of my early childhood in South Nitshill (69 to 77) before the family moved to Ireland and I recall nothing but fond memories.
I had heard from relatives/friends that the area deteriorated somewhat over the years, plagued by many of the social problems encountered by similar types of housing developments throughout the British isles.
Mellbhoy's post got me thinking, and the family names he mentioned (Hastie and Leslie) do seem very familiar and think they may have stayed in the same block as cousins of mine on Whitacres Road down at the grass triangle area.
There was a Willie Hastie that I went to St Bernard's school with and wonder if it's the same family.
Jock58

Hi all & welcome hertz

Just to clarify which triangle?
The one on Parkhouse at the end of the scheme, or the one on Whitacres in front of the gas houses at the top of the stairs doon to the Valley shops?

I have made the going off on the wrong tangent mistake before :-)
Like to be sure this time.

Jock58
ljohnfoxx

Just stumbled on this thread after goggling "South Nitshill"
All I can say is, what memories it brings back, good and bad.
I lived on Woodfoot Road from the 70's to 1990, when I decided it was time to get out..I've lived in London for the past 20 years.

As for people of the area I remember James "Boycie" Boyce, Ian "Mait" Maitland, Tam Reid, Bill Hastie, not sure if this is the same Wullie Hastie I've seen mentioned, but I presume so.
keep up the good work.

kilted_jockey

where is the Legends thread ?
Stuball

kilted_jockey wrote:
where is the Legends thread ?


Did you try the search facility?

http://urbanglasgow.co.uk/about1745.html
kilted_jockey

The photo of the guys celebrating are the Lavy Water domino team, which was taken upstairs in the function suite Crystals I think it was called.
bigdrew

:thup  Sorry I have not managed to add more photos yet, but recently upgraded my Mac, and now some software for scanners etc, is not working correctly.....
Try http://s681.photobucket.com/home/fourbytwo
I have about 17.000 negatives to sort, most of which started circa 1978, through the Levern and Royal Oak and Cavendish domino and pool matches.
I hope to get this up and running soon, I wanted to get these out so that relatives can see and get copies if they want.
belton

Has this thread/topic died?
cybers

not died just needs added to...

As an asides

Alex was the first scottish needle exchange piloted in one of these schemes ?
For some reason driving through today kinda opened a vague memory mibbes imaginary

but for some reason it seems embedded in my brain.
Alex Glass

I think that would have been in the late 1980's Cybers and the new Pollok Health Centre.

This is now the Civic Realm in Pollok
retalsdivad

hi all, I might head back to nitshill this year and look up some pals
i am doing research on bilslands bakery in particaular its old scotch ovens .I want to reproduce one for a bakery outlet in australia
when i lived in househillmuir rd i used to work in the nitshill brick co in the summer , loading the kilns etc i was only a kid then and did it for fun
Hi Alan again did u ever hear of that train crash or was it just my imagination
where the brick works used to be there was a tunnell that run under cleeves rd that came out in the piggery area of course the piggery now is under houses
Andrew C

Hi Everyone,

I spent the 1st 10 years or so of my life in the area '59 - '70 and went to Nitshill primary probably in '64 so it will come as no surprise to know that I have thoroughly enjoyed reading these posts (I've been lurking for over a week and have went through the posts 3 times).  My first teacher was Miss Heathwood and then I had Miss Green (or green something) and my final teacher was Mr Kidd.  I think that was his name although I may be getting this mixed up with another teacher in another school.

I have walked up the Brock Burn from the stepping stones to the dams.  When I say walked up the burn that is what I mean,- walking in the water and filling my wellies several times.

I also used to play in the army camp.  There was a sunken building where you could go down the steps into the building, walk through the building, and come up the steps on the other side.  The ground was flooded but there was plenty of bricks and old paint tins scattered around.  The challenge was to get to the other side without getting wet.

Gypsies also camped at this site so I stayed well clear when they were there.

The smell from Darnley Mill Farm was a bit ripe at times and sometimes the farmer would take the heard across Nitshill Road - He would just walk out and put his hand up to stop the traffic, and the cows would cross the road.  Could you imagine that happening now?

I also remember the demolition of Darnley Lime Works.  The ground underneath was on fire and burned for months.  I melted the soles of my sannies (Plimsoles to some).  Footwear was very sime - either sannies or wellies.

We left in 1970 and moved to Old Pollok.  I went to Leithland Road and then to Crookston Castle schools.  How come some schools last for hundreds of years but all the ones I went to are going/going/gone?

Some of my memories are very clear although some may have been a little distorted over time but it's also amazing how memories can be jogged.  I was saying to my kids a couple of weeks ago (we were watching Dr Who) that the only police box I can remember was at Shawlands Cross, but then I saw the picture of the tram crossing Nitshill road earlier in this forum and now I remember the police box there!

Hopefully there will be some more memory jogging in the future.

Andrew
Jock58

Hi Andrew &  

I think we must have crossed paths at some point.
similar age, same school. Though i don't remember any male teachers at Nitshill there was a Misss Green,(was she Canadian ?) miss Dreaver,miss Young.


I have an image of a blue police box at the side of the top shops in outhie but as nobody else seems to remember that I'm not too sure if its just imaginary.

Any auld photos of Southie ? be nice to see it when it was a nice wee scheme rather than those images of the end.

Jock58 ------------- John Boyle 7 Whinfield road
Andrew C

Hi John,

We must have crossed paths several times, if not daily!  I think it was you that mentioned going down the pram path (avoiding the steps) down to Nitshill Road.  I used to make bogies with old pram wheels and go rolling down there. Going over the shallow steps on the slope was sore on the bum but well worth it.  Its a wonder I wasn't killed as it was difficult to stop or turn before hitting the main road.

I'm rather vague on the male teacher but I remember my 1st day in his class.  He gave us all a funny shaped biro pen and told us he wanted us to use a pen from now on (up until that point we had always used pencils - pens were for grown-ups).  If we made a mistake he wanted to see it.  He also showed 3 different ways of writing the number 4, and showd us the way we were to use from now on.

I can't remember a police box at the top shops but I guess if there was a photo then more jogging would go on.  I remember a Co-op at the top shops and the tills had all these sliders on them so the operator could dial in my mums divvy number.  Speaking of the Co-op I also remember (I don't know when this was) my mum taking me to the new Co-op in Shawlands for my school trousers.  She paid with Co-op stamps - a full book of stamps was either 8/- cash or 10/- in goods.

I also had a train set for Christmas one year and like many of my presents they came from the Kensitas coupon catalogue.

I don't have any photos of Southie in its hey day - like many people of the day we didn't have a camera (or mobile phone).  THere is a picture of me as a baby with some garden in the background and that is that but I still hope to post some interesting thigs at a later date.

I did come up a few years ago and showed my wife the area but they had already boarded up some closes.  I took a photo of one that had been torched as it was my Aunty Anne's flat.  I also took a couple of pictures at the stepping stones so I'll try an find them.

It's funny how naff your memory can be in places - I was trying to think of some of the names of people in my class and could only think of a couple so I tested my wife (she went to school on England) and she could rattle off almost her entire class!  and yet with other things I can remember so much - like sometimes my mum would go shopping in Thornliebank (I think she went there for the butchers) and I remember that there was a drain in the corner of the walkway which was always blocked.

There was a Mrs Boyle who used to come round to visit my mum every other Thursday - she lived in the hospital grounds - was she any relation to you John?

Andrew
Jock58

Hi Andrew
My mum was a health care assistant for many years her name was Joan.

What road did you live in ? i may be able to think of some names from your area.

Jock58
Andrew C

Hi John,

I can help with your sanity.  If you look at the map below you will see the police box (PCB) at the upper shops, and yes, I remember it now.







I lived in the Fire Station.

Andrew
Jock58

Thanks for that, great map

I could not get a picture in my head even though i knew there was a blue police box in the area. Now i remember it at the edge of the path.
Right across from my front window.

I remember going into the firestation a few times as a kid but not really any details as to why i was there.

Some kids from that end of the scheme i remember
John Bailie. Kenny Murry. Chad Hazard, Crowford Huston, Eddie Bently.
Some more will come to mind later
I also remember the wooden Church ot woodfoot path, we used to go to Sunday school there.
Jock58
Stuball

Werent the police boxes in Glasgow red?
Jock58

Stuball wrote:
Werent the police boxes in Glasgow red?


Hi Stu
I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure it was blue.
I'm just happy to know there was in fact a box there, when many people told me there was not.
Jock58
Andrew C

I've never come across any red ones, only blue.  I also had a quick look at Google images and couldn't see anything but blue ones.

Perhaps a telephone box, a few drinks.............

Andrew
cybers

The original colour of the police Tardis Style Box was indeed Red...
It was changed to blue in the late sixties and Glasgow was the only city to have red ones.
History at school actually left me with something useful lmao....
So did wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_box
Andrew C

Thanks for that Cybers.

It is so nice to be able to say that I am too young to remember that!

Andrew
MalcolmB

The Crum family owned the Print Works or Bleach Works in Thornliebank and pretty much made Thornliebank what it is.

Alexander Crum is buried in Eastwood Cemetery after suffering a heart attack in the nearby Train Station. His grave is a big cross. Try looking for it.
shanta111

Hi there

Firstly, great pics here - spent hours looking.

Does anyone have any picks of Arden or Darnley (esp. Arden) from when they were built (Late 50s for Arden and 70s for Darnley) until now.  There seems to be nothing anywhere on the web.

Tam
stephen

Hi and welcome Tam. I'm sorry to say I have no pictures of Arden (or Carnwadric for that matter) from that time but it may interest you to know that Arden was built in the main part by 1954. Kilmartin Place and possibly Kilmuir Crescent were a later addition possibly in 1956 or 57. The two schools were opened at approximately these dates and if I remember correctly Arden Primary was opened some months after  St. Louise. You may also be interested to know that Arden was originally a farm called Ardenhead Farm and if you enter that name into this website  you will find an artists impression of the Farmhouse and you will see it was located in Khylerea at Kyleakin Terrace. I hope this is of some interest to you. Stephen.
Doog Doog

My sister may have some family snaps.
We lived in Kilmuir Cres until 1966 (I was born there),then moved to Crookston when I was about a year old. There is one of me in my pram with family in the front garden.
joemcguire

St Bernards primary - looking tired.....

Some pics of St Bernards prior to the "official" demolition team moving in!

I went to St Bernards from 1975 to 1982 & thought I had better get some pics before its gone. Growing up in Galston St, I wish I had that same thoughts earlier about the whole scheme, there must be pics of the back scheme out there.

Will have to have a wee search through the foties at my ma's hoose & see if I have any good wans.

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Alex Glass

Great that you took some photos Joe

I intended trying to get inside the school beforeit was demolished but never got round to it. There are some photos of Nitshill on the first Nitshill thread.

Shanta there was a recent  public meeting about the regeneration strategy for Arden. There were a couple of photos obtained from the Mitchell Library and as far as I know these were the only ones available apart from the ones mentioned by Stephen on the old farm
Doog Doog

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Reilly76

Re: St Bernards primary - looking tired.....

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Some pics of St Bernards prior to the "official" demolition team moving in!

I went to St Bernards from 1975 to 1982 & thought I had better get some pics before its gone. Growing up in Galston St, I wish I had that same thoughts earlier about the whole scheme, there must be pics of the back scheme out there.

Will have to have a wee search through the foties at my ma's hoose & see if I have any good wans.

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great pics Joe.

I went to St Bernards from 81-88. Always remember my first game for the school team scoring an og in that goal in the fourth pic down
Alex Glass

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great pics Joe.

I went to St Bernards from 81-88. Always remember my first game for the school team scoring an og in that goal in the fourth pic down


Reilly do you remember who ran the team at that time?
Reilly76

Re: St Bernards primary - looking tired.....

Alex Glass wrote:
Reilly76 wrote:


great pics Joe.

I went to St Bernards from 81-88. Always remember my first game for the school team scoring an og in that goal in the fourth pic down


Reilly do you remember who ran the team at that time?


Aye, Benny Hicks and John McCormack.

Won the league two years on the trot, years would probably be 86/87-88. The years when we swapped the all green and white jerseys to red with black pinstripes and black shorts.

Ive got a team photo lying about somewhere

PS - Bissys photos of the gala days in part 2. Showed them to the family and we've picked out quite a few faces, including one of my sister, with what looks like somebody elses shoes on  . Theres also faces I recognise and can't put names to.

we've got loads of photos from South Nitshill..gala days etc. Once Ive had a dig I'll get some posted
Alex Glass

Reilly I posted up a load of photos in another thread

The Legends of Nitshill (CLICK  HERE)

There are loads more of the South Nitshill Gala

If you want I will try and scan more and post then up
Mahdi West

Doog Doog wrote:
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Nice photos Doog Doog. I've noticed that building myself and have wondered what it was. Always thought it looked like a 40s/50s council building looking at it from the road but I see there's a bit more to it.
rosieposie

auld nitsie

hiya i lived in darvel street the pub at prestwick st was the househill tavern and the doctors used to be in the cotage  my brother owns the cottage
Stuball

Hi rosie and welcome to UG. Just a note to say there is an extensive ongoing thread regarding Nitshill and a new thread isn't required. I've merged this thread
maggiew

south nitshill

Just recently came across this site. There is some facinating reading here.
I lived in willowford rd from early sixties to late seventies. I remember miss heathwood. mrs dreaver and mr kidd at nitshill primary. Some of the names in previous notes are also familiar. There was someone asking about the name truesdale. I was friendly with a girl called jackie truesdale who lived across the road from me. Think she also had a brother. She lived up the same close as margaret robertson (i think). I have still kept in touch with a few of my old mates from south nitshill and we meet up every now and then to remember the old days.
Jock58

Hi maggiew & Welcome to UG

I remember  Mrs Dreaver she was my last teacher before we were moved on to Craigie (1970)

Jock58
bigdrew

working on recovering some old photos from the areas...
try: http://s681.photobucket.com/home/fourbytwo
some may be of interest........................
maggiew

Hi Jock (John)

I am sure I knew you. Did you live up on the path near the 49 bus terminus? I also went to Craigbank in 1970. Some of the name you mentioned in prev postings are familiar to me. I remember Chaz Hazard (ginger hair ?), Kenny Murray (lived in Wodfoot rd?). Do you remember Alan McGoff, Ian Meechan, Elizabeth Butcher, Margaret Paton, Carol Anne Barbour, Carol and Donald Winkler to name but a few.?

Maggie
Jock58

Hi Maggie
yes all those name are familiar to me

Kenny lived in the Quad
Some others from that area
John Baillie, Crawford Houston, Irene Rankin, Eddy Bentley, Eddie Boyd,

were you in Mrs Dreaver's class ? or the old dear up the stair Moffat ?
Not too sure of her name.

A few i remember from Willowford
Iain Mckendrick, Adam Gorman, Davie Stewart,

Jock58
maggiew

Hi Jock

I was in Mrs Dreavers class. I remember Ian McKendrick and funnily enough Adam Gorman has recently got in touch. I mentioned this site to my husband and he thinks that he remembers you as well. He went to Levern primary school but then went to Craigbank. His name is John Wylie. He lived in Drumbeg Drive. Do you remember him?

We have just recently moved back up to Scotland after a spell in England and have arranged to meet up with Elizabeth Butcher and husband, Norma Murray and husband, Ian Meechan and wife, Adam Gorman and wife and Carol Anne.

We used to meet up a couple of times a year for a night out before we went down south a couple of years ago so looking forward to seeing them all again. It will be the first time Adam will have joined us though as he has only recently got in touch.

Do I remember this right, did you go out with Carol Winkler at one point ?

Not been back up to Nitshill in ages but last time I went it was pretty bleak and now the wee primary school has gone too. How sad, many happy memories from there.

Maggie
Jock58

Maggie

Pretty sure John was in my class, from 2b2 till 4b2.
I get the image of a thin blonde haired lad. I think he was pals with Davie Ballentine (Spiv)

Jock58
maggiew

Hi Jock

That sounds like him although not so thin now and not quite so much hair.

Maggie
AndyP

Hi all have been on this sight for a few hours now reading the dits a name or two come to mind  i lived in whithope road from 59 till i moved to england in 73 to join the navy my mum still lives there my dad passed away in 2006 i must congratulate on a great site especially the pictures of southie keep up the good work cheers
belton

Andy P? would that be Pender? I remember you.

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