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maximusmop

Plean Street Demolition

as i may have posted earlier the plean street flat's will be handed over to the sighthill demolition contractor tds feb 2010 for a late 2010 demolition this thread is a head's up page for comments and picture's!
fastnet

Are you sure ?

I have heard that the flats are being taken ove by the YMCA for asylum seekers.
ChasR

fastnet wrote:
Are you sure ?

I have heard that the flats are being taken ove by the YMCA for asylum seekers.


Heard something along those lines, homeless / immigrants from a mate who is a concierge

Go past them daily and noticed that there wasn't many house lights on.

Will be interesting to see how they do this with one of the flats looking nearer to Dumbarton Road than the Sighthill ones did to the railway
Stuball

ChasR wrote:
Will be interesting to see how they do this with one of the flats looking nearer to Dumbarton Road than the Sighthill ones did to the railway


Nah, its miles away from the road. Close it off for a couple of hours, drop them, sweep up the dust and your dandy
Alex Glass

 to Urban Glasgow Chas
maximusmop

this was told to me by someone in the demolition contractor for sighthill, they are not getting the two blocks till febuary, i trust my source as the same person told me all the sighthill info, ie what order of demolition no go area etc, but things can change, will find out more, leave that with me!! any plean street picture's?
Stuball

I'm thinking the blocks on Broomloan road up at Paisley Road West will be next to go. They are empty, sealed and the power lines severed
maximusmop

Stuball wrote:
I'm thinking the blocks on Broomloan road up at Paisley Road West will be next to go. They are empty, sealed and the power lines severed


passed them last night and the mains are off but no sign as to a demolition contractor on site, these will also probobly be a late demolition as to the proximity of the paisley glasgow train line and the m8!
AlanM

maximusmop wrote:
Stuball wrote:
I'm thinking the blocks on Broomloan road up at Paisley Road West will be next to go. They are empty, sealed and the power lines severed


passed them last night and the mains are off but no sign as to a demolition contractor on site, these will also probobly be a late demolition as to the proximity of the paisley glasgow train line and the m8!


The M8 shouldn't pose any problems. Strathclyde's finest would quite happily close it for a short while on a Sunday morning to allow a demolition to go ahead. The railway is another issue as Scotrail and Network Rail won't close a line if they can at all help it.
Stuball

Add to that the small gas works to the west side of them
norrie

Hi chasr, whats your concierge friends name, perhaps I know him
I was thinking the Plean st HRF are close to the red sandstone building on Dumbarton rd,do they have room to drop the buildings away from Dumbarton rd.

Bye for now, norrie
ChasR

norrie wrote:
Hi chasr, whats your concierge friends name, perhaps I know him
I was thinking the Plean st HRF are close to the red sandstone building on Dumbarton rd,do they have room to drop the buildings away from Dumbarton rd.

Bye for now, norrie


Mates W.C based in the flats across from the Citizen

Haven't been up beside the flats but I think that there is room on the other side away from Dumbarton Road
norrie

Hi chasr, of course I know wc well, we started in Norfolk ct same day
I still see him now and then if I pop into Norfolk, small world

Bye for now, norrie
fastnet

norrie.

Are you still a concierge and if you are where are you based ?
norrie

Hi chasr, I retired from Norfolk about 3 years ago,  early
Work, the curse of the working class

Say hello to WC for me

Bye for now, norrie
Alex Glass

Maybe you could start a new thread

"Stories from the Concierge"

I am sure you will all have some great stories of life in the high rise.
ChasR

Alex

Some of the stories I've been told are top shelve material not the best for a family site like this
fastnet

Alex Glass wrote:
Maybe you could start a new thread

"Stories from the Concierge"

I am sure you will all have some great stories of life in the high rise.


You know something Alex it has always been muted that there should be a book written about the life of the concierge.

But nobody would believe it......  
ChasR

norrie wrote:
Hi chasr, I retired from Norfolk about 3 years ago,  early
Work, the curse of the working class

Say hello to WC for me

Bye for now, norrie


Spoke with Wullie and he sends his regards, says that he will see you at some time anyway

ChasR
ChasR

As can be seen in the photo the tenement flats on Plean Street are very close, approx 13 meters. Dumbarton Road is a bit further away but the ground slopes away very close to the Flats

Stuball

They'll drop the right hand one neatly into the space between the buildings. The demolition guys are getting pretty good at it, just look at the neat piles of rubble at sighthill.


It should be noted that one of the Ibroxholm blocks is in darkness and boarded up. They cut the power last week
norrie

I have thought about a book but we would all have the same stories to tell
I got my eys opened while doing that job, a real learning curve and a million miles away for my last job in Babcoks
Having said, that I enjoyed it, most of the time and I was able to retire early from work because of it.

Chasr, yes they are good at dropping buildings where they want to, any date or time for Plean st?

Bye for now, norrie
fastnet

norrie,

how many times have you been called an ar**hole though ?...

And it was your fault they were getting flooded....
norrie

Hi fastnet, were you a concierge too
Any abuse directed at me, I wrote an incident sheet for the Housing officer to deal with, not paid enough for abuse.
Sometimes I wondered how I held back.
Having said that I am not aggressive and tried to help the tenants

Bye for now, norrie
fastnet

norrie wrote:
Hi fastnet, were you a concierge too
Any abuse directed at me, I wrote an incident sheet for the Housing officer to deal with, not paid enough for abuse.
Sometimes I wondered how I held back.
Having said that I am not aggressive and tried to help the tenants

Bye for now, norrie


Still plodding away in costa cranhill norrie.

But as eveyone has been saying for the last 15 years........The joab's f**ked..  
norrie

Hi fastnet, Cranhill ?I was a course with the n/s guy from that site a number of years ago, Kevin??
Yes, sounds as if you are singing for the same hymn sheet as the concierge I meet.
Funny how I thought your were in the job
They keep telling me that I am well out of it, retirement is the bees knees

Bye for now, norrie
fastnet

norrie wrote:
Hi fastnet, Cranhill ?I was a course with the n/s guy from that site a number of years ago, Kevin??
Yes, sounds as if you are singing for the same hymn sheet as the concierge I meet.
Funny how I thought your were in the job
They keep telling me that I am well out of it, retirement is the bees knees

Bye for now, norrie


A small world right enough norrie.

Kevin is still there as well......
norrie

Hi fastnet, tell kevin I was aking for him, tell him Norrie from Norfolk ct, we were on a supervisors course.
Bye for now, norrie
maximusmop

speaking of norfolk court the block accross from the pf offices is now being sripped by safedem for demolition<plean street is in the hands of tds and asbestos is being removed and coleman has the broomloan 3 and stripout and window removal is moving on apace!
norrie

Hi Maximusmop, yes I noticed that as I passed Norfolk Court on Tuesday
I will try and find out if they mean to strip the building,leave it and in a couple of years demolish the two buildings at one time

Bye for now, norrie
cargoeng



Coming home tonight along Dumbarton Road, first time in ages managed to get a good look at the high rises.  Looking very empty, surrounding area has been roped off, however no sign of any work going on.
norrie

Hi cargoeng, those flats look a few months from being demolished, not a thing has been stripped from them
Part of Norfolk ct, Gorbals has been getting stripped for the past few months, still not ready

Bye for now, norrie
big soup

there is at least 11 to 12 weeks stripping out to be done in flats before they are ready to come down, if its the same flats i think it is they wont be getting blown down they will be getting done like the ones at ibrox
norrie

Hi big soup, yes those flats at Plean st are pretty close to housing, I was wondering how they were going to bring them down
Norfolk court,54 & 66 Gorbals has been gettting stripped for a wee bit longer that 12 weeks, supposed to come down this month, need to check on that
Bye for now, norrie
big soup

thanks norrie    
badangel1977

i had heard the flats were coming down.i used to stay in those flats.i can tell you im not sorry to see them go.it was a hell hole when i stayed there,i could go on all night with the stories from living there lol.how they going to bring them down?it must be bit by bit.to minimize any disruption to dumbarton road?
AlanM

The company that are bringing them down are TDS, the same company that brought down the Sighthill multis.

They seemed very good at what they do and should be able to do a blowdown with the buildings falling into each other slightly on the way down, with very little debris falling outside the site perimeter. It would probably be an early Sunday morning job to minimise disruption to road and rail
allanphillips

I noticed yesterday morning when killing time having a nosey along the clyde from braehead That a big crane thing like the one eating the Broomloan flats at Ibrox, was (what looked like) next to these flats I couldn't confirm as was across the river and a wee bit away.
ChasR

Demolition has indeed started, they have been removing the corner of one of the blocks and I took these photographs this afternoon.

Fair bit of dust lying about reckon that there will be loads of complaints





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norrie

Hi chasr, good shots, norrie
James

Coming down (© Evening Times)



Britain’s largest demolition machine has begun to raze high-rise flats in Yoker.


The 1960s buildings are being brought down bit by bit to protect surrounding
properties. The tallest mobile ultra-high-reach machine started the work, which
will see the multi-storey blocks at 55 and 75 Plean Street demolished.

The giant 203ft machine, which weighs more than 120tonnes, was transported
by three low loaders from London to start work at the Glasgow Housing
Association flats last week. At its highest point, the excavator stands three
metres taller than the River Clyde’s Finnieston Crane.

The two blocks were earmarked for demolition following a consultation with
the local community through GHA’s Local Housing Association – Clydeside Tenants
Partnership. In total, 228 flats will be reduced in height during the demolition,
which is expected to last around three months. Each block is 19-storeys high
and contains 114 flats.

GHA’s Assistant Director of Regeneration, David Fletcher, said: “This is a further
sign of GHA’s commitment to play a major part in helping change the face of
Glasgow and delivering social housing which is fit for the 21st century. The
future use of the site will be discussed with Glasgow City Council, in line with
the city’s local housing strategy. GHA will landscape the area while the long
term use of the site is decided.”

A decision was taken by GHA in 2007 to demolish and clear the two blocks
following a decline in demand and popularity of the site, as well as the high
investment and running costs. Residents have been kept informed of developments
through public meetings and news-letters. And tenants in the two blocks were
re-housed in either new-build properties or other GHA homes in areas.

GHA has appointed Technical Demolition Services as the principal contractor
to lead the project. Craig Wilson, Commercial Director of TDS, said: “TDS is delighted
to continue our working relationship with GHA as part of the regeneration of
Glasgow. We look forward to yet another successful contract.”



James H
norrie

Hi james73, I passed by that way last Thursday and noticed that work had began on demolishing the buildings

Bye for now, norrie
Stuball

Oh, THAT is the largest demolition machine? I thought Colemans demoltion machine doing Broomloan Court was pitched the the biggest?
cybers

Nah the colemans one is europes largest is it no  
Stuball

But surely Europe's largest would also be the UK largest too?
LowLight

Same machine?
Stuball

LowLight wrote:
Same machine?


Nope... the colemans machine is still in operation @ Broomloan
cybers

Is the colemans one not based in belguim though and shipped here for the broomloan job ?
Stuball

cybers wrote:
Is the colemans one not based in belguim though and shipped here for the broomloan job ?


Nope... Birmingham http://urbanglasgow.co.uk/about1958.html
AlanM

that's the Evening Times for you.

They still trumpet the Red Road flats as having been the highest in Europe when they were never even the highest in Glasgow
norrie

Hi AlanM, perhaps its because they were the built on a high part of Glasgow?
I know when they were being built that was the claim, highest in Europe but that was in the 60s, things will have changed
As far as I am aware they are the only steel framed high rise in Glasgow built by Flemings of Balmore rd Possilpark
Bye for now, norrie
AlanM

The tallest in Glasgow are the Whitevale and Bluevale towers in Denistoun which were completed before Red Road.

Red Road were possibly the tallest during the planning stage but the other towers overtook them during the various processes until building was completed
norrie

Hi Alanm, then perhaps the title is because they were built on a higher part of Glasgow
No matter most of them will be down before long

I would like to se the Red Rd flats being demolished
Bye for now, norrie
ChasR

AlanM wrote:
The tallest in Glasgow are the Whitevale and Bluevale towers in Denistoun which were completed before Red Road.

Red Road were possibly the tallest during the planning stage but the other towers overtook them during the various processes until building was completed


I was surprised to find that out, the Red Road flats even look taller
max stafford

Aye, I have to say Whitevale and Bluevale always stood out on the way down from EK, although Red Road always appeared to dominate everything else from that range.

Can't say I'm sorry to see any of them go.

I've not been up for a while, are the Balgrayhill blocks still standing?

Dave.
Stuball


IMG_4325 by stuballscramble, on Flickr



IMG_4327 by stuballscramble, on Flickr




IMG_4329 by stuballscramble, on Flickr

(Nice to see flickr have added the automatic BBCode generator)
Stuball

   
ChasR

A mile along the road and other flats were coming down quicker. Thankfully nobody injured

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzpnME8VCtQ&feature=related
norrie

Hi Chasr, were those flats new and unoccupied?
Bye for now, norrie
ChasR

norrie wrote:
Hi Chasr, were those flats new and unoccupied?
Bye for now, norrie


Yes they were. WC has moved house and now stays right next to them.

Didn't know that they were timber framed, frightening how quick the fire took hold and spread through the whole block.  Makes you wonder what would have happened if they were occupied and it had happened at night.
norrie

Hi chasr, now I wonder if the protection money had not been paid

Tell WC I was asking for him
Bye for now, norrie
fastnet



norrie

I have just noticed that this way of demolishing a high rise building means less stripping out, no windows  need to be taken out, what else is left in the building
Norfolk Court has to be brought down by esxlosives, they have been months stripping it out

Bye for now, norrie
Stuball

They stripped out the windows on Broomloan Court but they were uPVC framed double glazing. The difference with Plean Street is that they have the original metal framed single glazed windows which probably arent worth anything
James

Stuball wrote:
They stripped out the windows on Broomloan Court but they were uPVC framed double glazing. The difference with Plean Street is that they have the original metal framed single glazed windows which probably arent worth anything

The sort that were in houses all over Glasgow. I'd like to shake the hand of
the genius behind that design decision...



James H
norrie

Hi stuball, I wasnt thinking of any scrap value I was thinking of the glass being blasted all over the place when the building was being blown up

Bye for now, norrie
cybers

John probably knows the answer to that one a lot clearer than most Norrie.

Though whether he has any knowledge of explosive demolitions is another matter
John

I can`t add much to that Davie except to say that the process of machine demo is pretty much the same as as blow-down demo in as much as both routines involve removal of deleterious materials prior to demo therefore leaving the demolition materials clean of active materials such as timber, plastic etc leaving the rubble clean for processing through a crusher. Just a wee word on demolition or blow-downs...both take just as long as the process is much the same ie: stripping out etc, but the process of drilling out holes, removing internal walls etc makes it a level playing field as machine demo don`t have to go down that route.
Norrie, I have no idea why they left the windows in unless it was too time consuming a task, maybee they hope to lose the glass in the demolition / crusher prosess.

Davie, I have never been involved in explosive demo and hopefully wont ever be, but I know the process involved and find it boring to say the least.
norrie

Hi John, thanks for your reply
I suppose it makes sense to strip the fittings, I assume that bit wondered why the left the window frames and the glass

Bye for now, norrie
JohnD

They left the windows in because they are the original metal single glazed windows from construction. Probably worthless
cybers

james73 wrote:
Stuball wrote:
They stripped out the windows on Broomloan Court but they were uPVC framed double glazing. The difference with Plean Street is that they have the original metal framed single glazed windows which probably arent worth anything

The sort that were in houses all over Glasgow. I'd like to shake the hand of
the genius behind that design decision...



James H



Followed by this beauty ....

JohnD wrote:
They left the windows in because they are the original metal single glazed windows from construction. Probably worthless



Anyone notice a pattern ?
norrie

H johnd, it wasnt the value I was thinking of' it was the safety of workers when pulling down the building and there is glass flying around

Bye for now, norrie
JohnD

Aw sorry about that never seen that post
badangel1977

Its Weird seeing Plean street being brought down,i used to live in no 55.
And i am always used to seeing them when i was going up and down dumbarton road.I dont stay in yoker anymore im in bearsden,so i dont really go down that way anymore,But its still sort of sad in a way.I only stayed there for 2 years,and i got loads of good and bad memories from staying there.Is Glasgow council going to build more houses there?or will the land get sold off for private housing?
ChasR

Heard that they have a problem with the wrecking machine, seemingly only one person that can sort it is on holiday and demolition has stopped until he returns.

My wife was told this in the hairdressers so can't confirm on the reliability of above statement
big soup

must be more than one fitter in the uk that can fix the machine  
ChasR

big soup wrote:
must be more than one fitter in the uk that can fix the machine  


It was working away knocking lumps down when I passed tonight
Robert Pool

link to photos. Best viewed as a 'Slide Show'

http://www.flickr.com/photos/robe...2157624869836618/with/4993304875/
tombro

When I first saw this part of the forum, my mind started doing cartwheels.  I was sure that the Plean Street flats were where my Granny was relocated to from Crimea Street in Anderston in the early 1960's.

I went searching and, true enough, found the evidence.





As you can see, Granny Brown moved into flats at 55 Plean Street and was very pleased with her little unit.

Now, my Auntie Nellie was also relocated from Clydeferry Street to 60 Kingsway Court at Scotstoun and I would really love to see some pics of those flats, too !

Tombro, sharing a little of his personal history

 
Robert Pool

What a lovely letter; it's been a while since l last heard of the kitchen being called the scullery.


Kingsway Court Flats viewed from Plean Street Flats.



view from Plean Street Flats looking towards Drumchapel although the 3 flats (top right) were not built until the llate 1960's



View from Plean Street Flats of the River Clyde and 'Yarrows' Shipyard, now BVT Surface Fleet



This photo was taken from the corner of Crimea Street and Carrick Street in 1960. The street to the left of the playground with the factories is McAlpine Street.



Clydeferry Street 1960

ChasR

Robert Pool wrote:
link to photos. Best viewed as a 'Slide Show'

http://www.flickr.com/photos/robe...2157624869836618/with/4993304875/


Some crackin views you got there. Shame in a way that they are being pulled down
tombro

Robert,

Thanks for the wonderful pictures and bringing back some very fond memories for me.

It's great to see where my Granny and my Auntie Nellie moved to from Anderston and the picture of the swing park would have been taken from the exact corner of Carrick and Crimea Streets that my Granny Brown lived above in her top floor Single End.

My older brother and I spent many hours playing in that Swing Park during weekends and school holidays and I can still picture the crusty old keeper who worked from the wee building.

Thanks again, Robert !

Tombro    
Doog Doog



Mahdi West

Nice ones, Doog Doog  
ChasR

First ones at ground level and they started on the second one this morning

Noticed as I was going past that they had a squad out with a water bowser washing cars that had been covered in dust. Hope they hosed the surface dirt off before hitting them with the sponges, paintwork would be in a right mess
norrie

Hi Robertpool, one good thing about HRFs you get such a great view of Glasgow from the tops of them
I liked the photos of Crimea st, pity the Mitchell has them watermarked

Bye for now, norrie
norrie

Hi Robertpool, lucky you getting access to the building that hadnt been started, great shot, liked the one of Yarrows

Bye for now, norrie
norrie

Doogdoog, nice clear shots of the partly demolished HRF

Bye for now, norrie
Stuball

As seen from the river a few weeks ago


Plean Street by stuballscramble, on Flickr
norrie

Hi stuball ,good shot, norrie
Stuball

Who the hell painted there wall hot pink?
norrie

Hi stuball, I was thinking the same myself
I remember when tenements were being demolished, thats when you seen all the garish wall paper

Bye for now, norrie
Doog Doog

Good pic Stu

Obviously a girls room that......
Stuball

Doog Doog wrote:
Good pic Stu

Obviously a girls room that......


Lets hope so!
chrisleslie

PLEAN ST FLATS DEMOLITION - LOOKING FOR FORMER RESIDENTS

HELLO

I HAVE BEEN COMMISSIONED BY THE DEMOLITION COMPANY AT PLEAN
STREET TO PHOTORAPH A TIMELAPSE OF BOTH FLATS COMIN DOWN.
I AM ALSO DOING MY OWN DOCUMENARY PROJECT ON THE FLATS AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO FORMER RESIDENTS WHO LIVED THERE.

ANYONE KNOW OF ANY COMMUNITY CROUPS OR LINKS TO WHERE I COULD FIND SOME LEADS?????

TA

CHRIS LESLIE

http://www.chrisleslie.com
Stuball

good thing it's international capslock day...

http://capslockday.com/
chrisleslie

I JUST WANTED MY MESSAGE TO STAND OUT!

(thats all....)
Beano

Stuball wrote:
good thing it's international capslock day...

http://capslockday.com/
STUBALL NOO YE TELL ME< AM ALWAYS THE LAST TAE KNOW    
cybers

chrisleslie wrote:
I JUST WANTED MY MESSAGE TO STAND OUT!

(thats all....)


Ignore the Phallus-tines I think it sticks oot just enough...

Oh and welcome along  
Beano

cybers wrote:
chrisleslie wrote:
I JUST WANTED MY MESSAGE TO STAND OUT!

(thats all....)


Ignore the Phallus-tines I think it sticks oot just enough...

Oh and welcome along  
 OUCH!!!!!!!! oh aye welcome aboard    
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