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Press coverage of proposed new building at Glasgow Harbour

There has been an outcry by local residents at Glasgow Harbour with a proposal to change the previously approved plan to a new design of building which has been compared with the many high-rise flats that have been blown down in the last few years.

The residents and locals at Glasgow Harbour are not against the building of residential high-rise in principle.  It is the cut price version that replaced the previously approved proposal that has angered the residents which is totally out of character with the rest of the build.

The Herald and Evening Times ran with this story

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/new...-glasgow-harbour-190731n.26013415

Quote:
Dozens of high-rises have been dynamited across the west of Scotland in recent years, with the iconic Red Road towers skyscrapers scheduled to be next.

But now developers have applied for permission to build what critics say is a classic 1960s and 1970s tower block - smack in the middle of what was once pitched as a new riverside yuppie neighbourhood.

Dandara has unveiled plans for a 16-storey development of nearly 350 flats for "midmarket" rent in Glasgow Harbour, sparking horror from nearby residents.

Jim McGuire, vice chairman of a local home owners' association, said: "This block will either be the first thing you seen in Glasgow Harbour or the last; it's a massive monolith designed to provide as many flats as possible in as little space as possible.

"We don't think it fits with our neighourhood at all."

Critics believe the Dandara project is one of the biggest of its kind in Scotland, a privately owned skyscraper in which all the flats will be for rent, a sort of commercial Red Road.

The company, however, reckons it has identified a gap in the market for high-rise living for professionals who can't - or don't want to - buy.

It had planned to build to a different spec for mixed tenure - many of the homes in Glasgow Habour are either owner-occupier or buy-to-let - but is understood to have changed tack.

Mr McGuire and other residents believe the new block is completely out of line with the whole image of Glasgow Harbour, which was the flagship development of the pre-financial crash drive to regenerate the banks of the Clyde.

Local councillor Kenny McLean, of the SNP, said: "This block looks like many of the multi-storeys we are pulling down right now, bleak and monolithic.

"There is a danger here of repeating the mistakes of the past."

His fellow nationalist Sandra White, who is MSP for the area, said: "I think this is a blot on the landscape."

Labour councillor Aileen Colleran agreed. She said: "This is not so much a book -end as a sore thumb.

"What kind of community are we going to have in Glasgow Harbour in 10 years? There is now far more focus on rentals than was ever intended. Are we going to have a sustainable community here or just short-term lets?"

A spokeswoman from Dandara said such build-for-rent schemes were now widespread across the UK. She added: "But few have the high-quality ethic and delivery track record that comes with a Dandara scheme.

"The proposed apartments and associated facilities will be predominantly aimed at working professionals requiring easy access to the city centre, and the premium specification will place this scheme as one of the most desirable in Glasgow."

Some residents suggested they would be happy with high-rise but didn't like the look of the block, described by one resident as "Benidorm without the beach".

The Dandara spokesman said the firm would be happy to work with the council on the final appearance of the block.


STV also ran the story

http://news.stv.tv/west-central/3...gh-rise-flats-at-glasgow-harbour/

Here is before and after pictures

Previously approved design



New proposal




Previously approved design




New proposal

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joao40

Neither the old or the new options are particularly aesthetically pleasant. Both pretty much the generic type of glass and concrete buildings you get nowadays that lack any architectural imagination. Pretty much devoid of any architecture whatsoever. Slapped up together for the cheapest possible cost.

If I had to pick one I'd be the old design, but it is not great either.

New design really does look like a redesign of the monstrous soviet style blocks of flats of the past. They have not even broken ground on the development, but you can almost hear the voice of the next generation in 50 years time asking what kind of mad people approved it, just before it gets raised to the ground in the same manner similar developments are now.
lewisfair9

Heard about this, seems a good idea to build more towerblocks.
Fat Cat

lewisfair9 wrote:
Heard about this, seems a good idea to build more towerblocks.


Yes.  In fact, Hillhead, Glasgow Harbour and even Woodside seems the perfect place for a few tower blocks along with that new asylum centre the GCC is trying to offload.  
joao40

It's yet more buildings that look like they were designed by people on a care in the community exercise.

How is it that in this day and age it is impossible to build a building that is aesthetically pleasing.

Every picture you see of areas of Glasgow from 100 years ago to now, the old pictures are always far far better. I challenge anyone to come up with a before and after picture that shows what exists today is better.

Society today is supposedly technically more advanced, but we are incapable of bettering what we have had in the past.

Maybe 100 years ago tradesmen were much more affordable to hire so it was easier to build nice buildings, today we have rip of builders that are under skilled and overpriced.
Fat Cat

A challenge you say.
Geelo G

joao40 wrote:
It's yet more buildings that look like they were designed by people on a care in the community exercise.

How is it that in this day and age it is impossible to build a building that is aesthetically pleasing.

Every picture you see of areas of Glasgow from 100 years ago to now, the old pictures are always far far better. I challenge anyone to come up with a before and after picture that shows what exists today is better.

Society today is supposedly technically more advanced, but we are incapable of bettering what we have had in the past.

Maybe 100 years ago tradesmen were much more affordable to hire so it was easier to build nice buildings, today we have rip of builders that are under skilled and overpriced.


I'm afraid nostalgia has gotten a hold of you.

100 years ago, there were scores of deaths on building sites all over the country every week, you could get sacked on a whim, child labour and poor wages meant materials cost less, no health and safety meant building an old sandstone building cost less.

100 years ago, the city was awash with poor water, slums all over the place, smog polluting everyone and no amount of nostalgia will cloud the bare facts.
joao40

Geelo G wrote:
joao40 wrote:
It's yet more buildings that look like they were designed by people on a care in the community exercise.

How is it that in this day and age it is impossible to build a building that is aesthetically pleasing.

Every picture you see of areas of Glasgow from 100 years ago to now, the old pictures are always far far better. I challenge anyone to come up with a before and after picture that shows what exists today is better.

Society today is supposedly technically more advanced, but we are incapable of bettering what we have had in the past.

Maybe 100 years ago tradesmen were much more affordable to hire so it was easier to build nice buildings, today we have rip of builders that are under skilled and overpriced.


I'm afraid nostalgia has gotten a hold of you.

100 years ago, there were scores of deaths on building sites all over the country every week, you could get sacked on a whim, child labour and poor wages meant materials cost less, no health and safety meant building an old sandstone building cost less.

100 years ago, the city was awash with poor water, slums all over the place, smog polluting everyone and no amount of nostalgia will cloud the bare facts.


Yep these are very valid points.

Look at the booming construction work that is going on in places like the UAE. Dubai and Qatars construction work is done without any health and safety, using people from places like Nepal and Bangladesh on $1 per day, who if die on the job, can be replaced quickly with no questions asked. There are numerous news stories about the slave like conditions behind the construction boom in these places. Qatar world cup is facilities will be built with a high body count.

Who knows, with the advance of robotics maybe in a few decades we can have robots build us decent buildings by eliminating any labour costs.
max stafford

Sorry, but get that eyesore tae f***!
joao40

max stafford wrote:
Sorry, but get that eyesore tae f***!


Maybe we need to use slave labour to build developments that are not ever sores like the UAE are doing.

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