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Doorstop

Question for the Educators.

Do any of my HG colleagues who are acquainted with the education rules and suchlike know how the regulations stand on having pre-school kids outside in this cold for extended periods?

Same thing goes v.v. Health and Safety in the same situation for adults who are under usually indoor working conditions?

Any help very much appreciated.
cybers

Will ask the wife when she gets hom ... after the 3:30 bell big man lol
Doorstop

He he ..  
Stuball

Re: Question for the Educators.

Doorstop wrote:
Do any of my HG colleagues.


Aaaaaaaaahem.......
AlanM

somebody's been copying and pasting
AlanM

I know that for workplaces the indoor minimum temps apply only when the majority of work is done sitting down.

MrsM is EIS rep @ her school - will ask her when she gets in what the deal is for schools
Doorstop

Stuball wrote:
Doorstop wrote:
Do any of my HG colleagues.


Aaaaaaaaahem.......


Ooops!  

AlanM wrote:
somebody's been copying and pasting


Indeed . .sorry guys.

AlanM wrote:
I know that for workplaces the indoor minimum temps apply only when the majority of work is done sitting down.

MrsM is EIS rep @ her school - will ask her when she gets in what the deal is for schools


Thanks Alan, that would be a great help . .I've already been bounced form the Health and Safety to the Environmental Health, who then put me onto their specialist education department. They then said because it's a private nursery school that's involved in  the breach it would have to be the Care Commission that dealt with things.

I want to make sure the school is well out in the minefield before I throw the floodights on, so to speak so any info your BH can impart will only stand me in good stead.

Thanks again.
AlanM

a wee phone call to the Care Commission without naming names may be the way to approach it. That way you're getting the official line and not stepping on toes.
AlanM

Asked the Mrs and she says that there are different temperature requirements for the kids and the adults.

But as the establishment you're refering to is private the council's rules won't apply so best to check with the Care Commission.

The outdoors thing you mentioned on FB is absolutely fine - kids can be outdoors in any weather as long as they are suitably clothed.
Doorstop

Ah, right .. that kind of puts the kybosh on a complaint then, based on those grounds.

I personally think that keeping the bairns outside using those grounds as a convenient excuse to sidestep shutting the gaffe due to no boiler is a bit beyond the pale.

I'm really thinking about my friend here, over and above the kids, as I don't know the kids (and they have parents very capable of being vocal) but my friend is really worried about losing her job if she speaks up.

She has osteoarthritis and is contracted for work indoors (although not specifically stated) not for standing outside all day in the wind and the cold without any notice (on the first day at least), especially as there were other nurses (owners daughters drinking partners, apparently) who got to stay inside, albeit with no heating, but sitting down preparing the lunches and the next day's activity plans.

The latter job being usually designated to my friend to do as work at home, not contracted and not paid for,

Some cnut is taking the piss.  

I dont raise my voice to women but I'm sorely tempted.
AlanM

Speak to the Care Commission, you don't have to name the establishment but they will tell you the standards they expect.
Alyabas

School temps

Hello,
I went to school in Glesga, primary and secondary then tech. Health and saftey said if the class was bellow 14C. Class closed. That was throughout all education facilities. For staff and students both.

Then Billy Connolly said "There is no bad weather.. Just bad clothing."

He obviously never lived without air conditioning where the air was often above blood temp! Never mind Humidity. Humff.

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