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Alex Glass

Ramshorn - Glasgow Merchants

Buried in the old church grave yard of St David's Church (Ramshorn) are many of the merchants who made Glasgow what it is today.

On walking through the cemetery the fist thing you notice is that many of the memorials stones are worn and the details hard to read. Before all the information is lost I thought it would be a good idea to try and decipher the information and utilise it to tell a little bit more of the story behind the many men, women and children who lived in Glasgow before being lay-ed in their last resting place in the Ramshorn Cemetery.

MATTHEW PROVAND AND HIS FAMILY





Within the Ramshorn Cemetery there is a memorial stone to Matthew Provand and his family.

The inscription on the stone reads;

Matthew Provand     Mercht
Died Dec 13th 1779
Andrew Provand    Mercht
Died July 5th 1789
Janet Buchanan
Wife of Matthew Provand
Age 67 Buried 12th August 1799
James Provand Age 12 Months
Buried 7th May 1805
George Provand Senr Merchant
Son of Matthew Provand
Buried 8th Feb 1833
James Provand Jun Son of George
Died 19th May ..... Aet 22
James Provand Son of Matthew
Died 17th May 1847 Aet 83
And of the children of George Provand Jun
And Ann Reid Dryburgh
Richard Died .....May 1845
Mary McNair Died .... July 1845
David Died ..... January 1846
David Died 13th June 1847
Elizabeth Maxwell
Wife of James Provand Sen
Died 3rd October 1852
George Provand Jun
Died 6th October 1867
Ann Reid Dryburgh
Wife of George Provand Junr
Born 29th December 1804 Died 17th August 1883
Andrew Dryburgh Provand
Son of George Provand Junr
Born 23rd March 1838 Died 18th July 1915
MP for Blackfriars Division Glasgow 1885-1900

On one memorial details of four generations of the Provand family which provides much detail that assists with researching this family tree.
Matthew Provand a Merchant of Glasgow, who died in 1779, married Janet Buchanan, who died ten years later. The couple were married in Glasgow on 30th September 1759, when Janet would have been 21 years old. As far as I know there were seven children all born in Glasgow. George born 8th May 1755, Matthew born 4th July 1756 who must have died soon after because a year later another boy named Matthew was born on 23rd July 1757. Andrew was the next son born on 22nd July 1759, Cecil born on 21st April 1761, Archibauld born 13th July 1763 and finally James born 5th July 1765.

From the Memorial stone we know a lot about two of Matthew’s sons. James who died in 1847 age 83 who married Elisabeth Maxwell, who died in 1852, on 1st July 1793 in Glasgow. There were seven children known to have been born from this union. Ann Maxwell born 25th June 1794, Charles Maxwell born 10th June 1796, Matthew born 27th July 1798, Janet Buchanan born 16th July 1800, Annabella Maxwell born 18th May 1802 and James born 22nd July 1806. We also know much about the family of Matthew’s son George. From the memorial we know that George died in 1833. His son also George, who died in 1867, was married to Ann Reid Dryburgh, who died in 1883. They were married on 29th December 1823 in Glasgow. Ann Reid Dryburgh was christened on 6th January 1805 in Carmunnock and her parents were David Dryburgh and Mary McNair. David and Mary were married in Glasgow on 17th September 1802. From the Memorial we know that there were five children born into this marriage. There were in fact a further three. Mary McNair Provand was born on 8th December 1824 and died in July 1845. Margaret Peter was born 25th July 1826, Ann Dryburgh Provand was born on 9th September 1828, Elizabeth was born on 1th January 1836 and Andrew was born on 23rd March 1838, we will come back to Andrew later. From the memorial we know also that Richard died in May 1845, David died in January 1846 with another David dying over a year later on 13th June 1847. From the 1881 Census we can find Ann Reid living at 3 Prices St W, Barony, with her daughter Elizabeth Houston, who is also widowed at this time. Also in the house is her Grand-daughter Bethia F Houston, age 24.

There is no mention of any commodities that the Provand family were involved with on the memorial. There is however an entry in an old Post Office Directory which reads;
PROVAND, J and G & Co., Colour manufacturers, paint grinders and Roman cement and mastic manufacturers, 50 East Howard Street.
From Jones’s Directory for September 1787 there are two entries under the name Provand;
PROVAND George, merchant, wareroom east side High Street, near the Croft
PROVAND James, calico and linen-printer, wareroom east side High Street, near the Crofts

There is also a George Provand mentioned as the onetime owner of Ruchill House. This is an extract from the Glasgow Digital Library;
“After Bob Dragon's death Ruchill was the family residence, and the old town house was shut up. By-and-by the whisper grew that it was haunted. Lights had been seen, strange sounds heard within - evidently Bob Dragon still hung about his old quarters. The ghost was not laid till 1812, when the house was opened, and the cellars were found piled feet deep with grains of malt. Smugglers had taken possession of the empty eerie place as an illicit distillery, and had left the bulky refuse behind. After this, George Provand, a colour maker, made bold to take the Dreghorn Mansion as his house and workshop. But he found worse trouble than ghosts. That happy thought, the Anatomy Bill, had not then been suggested : the public mind was constantly stirred by wild stories of body-snatchings, and of murders done (as murders afterwards were done by Burke and Hare) to supply the surgeon's table : and somehow poor Provand was suspected of using his premises as a depot for the horrid trade. It is said some red paint had run into the gutter from below the door of his yard, and had been taken for the blood of his victims. The end of it, at any rate, was, that on Friday, the 17th February, 1822, a furious mob attacked the house, broke the windows, burst the doors, gutted the place, and tossed the furniture into the Clyde. They could not find Provand himself, or they would no doubt have killed him. But they abused his son and his servant to the peril of their lives, and some gentlemen who tried to calm their fury were little better served. Bailie Lawrence Craigie had to fight his way backwards to the attic, defending himself with the leg of a table, and probably saved his life by barricading himself in, and escaping through the window by the help of two sheets knotted together. Procurator Fiscal Wilson, Bailie Mitchell (the silversmith), his son, Alexander Mitchell (our late regulator of town's clocks), and others were roughly handled : and the riot was only quelled by the help of the Riot Act and the soldiers, horse and foot. As before with the Shawfield Riot, and since with the Chartist Riots, the town was responsible for a heavy loss of property, and the Magistrates offered a reward of 200 guineas for the discovery of the ringleaders. Five of these were convicted at the next circuit, and sentenced to fourteen years transportation, and one of them, Richard Campbell, to be also whipped through the town at the cart's tail. This sentence was carried out on 8th May 1822, twenty lashes each at the Jail, the Stockwell foot, the Stockwell head, and the Cross. From that day to this no one here has been punished in this way, but garotters and wife-beaters may force us to yoke the cart again.”


The last entry on the memorial provided details of the death of Andrew Dryburgh Provand who was the MP for Blackfriars Division Glasgow. Although there isn’t much information available on the internet about Andrew he nevertheless made an important contribution as a parliamentarian. He served as MP for the Blackfriars and Hutchesontown Division from 1885-1900. He replace Mitchell Henry as the Liberal MP for the Blackfriars and Hutchesontown Division. As a Liberal Andrew introduced a resolution regarding Land Taxation in a speech recorded in Hansard in 1891/2. He is also listed as a Board Member and later President of the Chignecto Investors Groups and also a member of Moss Valley Royal Societies Club, St James’s Street. In 1894 he is listed as having attended the International Bimetalic Conference held in the Mansion House, London between the 2nd and 3rd May.
His resolution merited a mention in “The New York Times” on 9th March 1895. “He moved that “no system of taxation can be equitable unless it include the direct assessment of such enhanced value of land as is due t an increase of population, wealth, and growth of towns.”
Andrew Dryburgh Provand was defeated by Andrew Bonar Law in the General Election held in 1900. He died 15 years later on 18th July 1915.
Alex Glass

David McHaffie

The memorial to David McHaffie reads;

In Loving Rememberence of

David McHaffie

and

Eliza Johnstone, his wife

And Ten of Their Family

1837

Could these children be the ten members of their family;
Margaret, born 16th Jan 1792, Glasgow
David, born 2nd February 1798, Rutherglen
Margaret, born 1st May 1799, Rutherglen
Robert, born 5th August 1800, Rutherglen
William, born 23rd July 1801, Rutherglen
Ellenoroe, born 18th February 1803, Rutherglen
Agnes, born 28th March 1804, Rutherglen
Jain, born 3rd December 1805, Rutherglen
Alex'r, born 15th February 1807, Rutherglen
John, born 19th April 1809, Rutherglen

Is it possible that the mystery of this memorial is now solved?



David McHaffie married Betty Johnston on 19th November 1786 in Glasgow.
Hugo Drax

This is a wonderful treasure Alex. I try to walk through at least once a week. the stones really do tell a story.
Alex Glass

John Stewart, Merchant 1802



The Burial Ground of John Stewart, Merchant ans His Heirs.

To The Memory of
James Easson, Merchant,
and Jean Stewart his wife
and Family
Also
Peter Stewart, Merchant,
Alexander Stewart his brother
and of
John Stewart, Merchant
Died 28th June1849 age 67
His Wife Janet Easson
who Died 6th July 1819 age 25
His Wife Janet Anderson
who Died 13th January 1826 age 33
His Wife Elizabeth McAlpine Gardner
who Died 14th November 1857 age 62


James Easson married Jean Stewart on 19th June 1794 in Glasgow the bands were also read on 8th June in Dunblane.

As far as I can fine they had five children. Three listed on the memorial;

Peter
Alexander and
John, born 21st March 1797, Glasgow
also
Janet, born 1st May 1795, Glasgow
James, born 2 August 1801, Glasgow

A lot of information is given of John Stewart. He first married Janet Easson on 7th August 1818  in Glasgow. They had one child, Janet easson Stewart, born 29th June 1819 and as we can see the mother died a month later.

John married his second wife Janet Anderson on 9th June 1823 in Glasgow. Again one child was born, Jean Hay Stewart born 15th May 1824. les than two years later the mother died. So John married again.

His third wife was Elizabeth McAlpine Gardner and they were married in Gorbals on 9th February 1833.
HollowHorn

David Dale, the Heart of Glasgow:


Merchant or not?:
Alex Glass

Thnks for your contribution HH. I think I may have mised the David Dale one I will need to check. I also got the Charles De Bois memorial. Strange name in an old Glasgow cemetery.
HollowHorn

David Dale, what a modest headstone for a man who gave so much to this city. I'll wager he wanted it that way.
Alex Glass

Hugo Drax wrote:
This is a wonderful treasure Alex. I try to walk through at least once a week. the stones really do tell a story.


I have a photo I took of the memorial to a former Provost on the day we were there last year. I keep meaning to look that one out an get his story.

It is a truly beautiful place.
Alex Glass

HollowHorn wrote:
David Dale, the Heart of Glasgow:




David Dale

More on David Dale

Wikipedia David Dale
Alex Glass

1780 must have been the year of purchase for the David Dale burial ground.



This Plaque tels the story of Sir John A MacDonald



Always watch where you are walking on the pavement outside the cemetery you may be walking over the grave of the Foulis brothers.



Robert and Andrew Foulis were printers. Both studied at Glasgow University.
Fjord

Alex Glass wrote:





Is this a mass grave for the paupers  
Stuball

Myself and zos were planning on getting some night/long exposure shots in the Ramshorn this evening before the pub but was called off on the count of rain.... but though I'd repost the ramshorn pictures from the Ingram st thread.
Will get back there sometime soon hopefully for some pictures and hopefully I'll get some good pictures of the 'unknown friends' markers.









To view the photo set and/or comment, set viewable by CLICKING HERE
Alex Glass

Thanks Stu

Just thought it was too good for the Ingram Street thread.

These pictures really are great. Worth posting twice
Alex Glass

James Black - Lord Provost



James Black
Lord Provost of Glasgow

Ramshorn Cemetery
Memorial
1795
James Black
Merchant
Glasgow
1755-1825
Lord Provost of Glasgow
1808-9 and 1816-17

James Black’s name appears on all the lists of former Lord Provosts of Glasgow but there is little information of the man to be found on the internet.

On the other hand there is much to discover him through his daughter Hannah.
James Black married Hannah Shortridge in Glasgow about 1781. We know from his memorial at the Ramshorn Cemetery that he was born sometime in 1755. His daughter Hannah Shortridge Black married William Muir, who was a Minister on 22nd June 1813. Together they had nine children. William born 5th September 1814 in Glasgow, Hannah Shortridge born 17th Jan 1816, Glasgow and  died 15th November 1822, James born 31st Mat 1817, Glasgow, Robert Hugh born 26th February 1819, Glasgow, was the Minister of Dalmany, William born 16th August 1820, Glasgow, John who died 18th June 1823, Hugh born 11th May 1824, Edinburgh and John Stenhouse who was the Minister of Cockpen.

William Shortridge

Craigmaddie
kiped1

Hi,
         Wonder if anybody can help? Recently discovered an ancestor of my wife was buried in St. Davids Ramshorn churhyard. His name was William Chisholm, merchant/manufacturer. Died 1847. If anybody spots his memorial I would be glad of the info. and perhaps a photo.
                      Cheers, Eddie.
Stuball

I might try pop in and have look for you but alot of the stones are very worn and crumbling
kiped1

cheers, that would be greatly appreciated.
                      Eddie.
schiehallion

The man murdered in the infamous Madeleine Smith murder story is buried in the Ramshorn, Pierre Emile L'Angelier.

It's a long time since I've been in but I think he was hard right as you walk in although my mid might be playing tricks.
Alex Glass

kiped1 wrote:
Hi,
         Wonder if anybody can help? Recently discovered an ancestor of my wife was buried in St. Davids Ramshorn churhyard. His name was William Chisholm, merchant/manufacturer. Died 1847. If anybody spots his memorial I would be glad of the info. and perhaps a photo.
                      Cheers, Eddie.


I will see if I have a photo Kiped1

If not then will see if I can beat Stu to it if I get time early next week.

 to Urban Glasgow
Stuball

Oh, sounds like a challenge... should have got out of bed today and went in. Maybe tomorrow afternoon
kiped1

William Chisholm 1847

Thanks, would appreciate any help here as Glasgow is a bit far to travel without some "on the ground" research before hand.
        On burial record under entry "No. and Wall" is written N.C. 2/131.
This must be the location. Might be of help. I suspect somewhere in the records must be a plan of the churchyard with these numbered locations recorded to show who is buried where.
                    Eddie.
Stuball

Some of the stones are numbered
scotthiggy

Ramshorn

I know he want a merchant, but lair No 5 is the unmarked resting place of Pierre Emile L'angelier of Madeleine Smith fame. Well he did work as a seed merchant, so perhaps he would qualify? Check it out on my flickr

Stuball

Re: William Chisholm 1847

kiped1 wrote:
Thanks, would appreciate any help here as Glasgow is a bit far to travel without some "on the ground" research before hand.
        On burial record under entry "No. and Wall" is written N.C. 2/131.
This must be the location. Might be of help. I suspect somewhere in the records must be a plan of the churchyard with these numbered locations recorded to show who is buried where.
                    Eddie.


Well, I found it eventually after walking in the gate and right by it. Sure enough, it is the second row from the wall marking 131. It's in pretty fair condition to some of the other stones which are worn down to nothing, crumbling off the wall or covered in moss. It is a flat ground level stone that lies about 10 metres in from the main gate.
The following picture is a vertical stitch with the contrast upped to make reading a little easier. I did'nt want to try clear any of the moss from the top as it may cause damage and add to the wear of the stone. Click on it for super dooper silly size.

Alex Glass

Well done Stu

I checked my photos and unfortunately didn't have one of that memorial.
kiped1

Stu, Most impressed   Thanks for your time and effort here! This is really something I never expected to find. Lots of family history is like  Amazing what you can do on the web! We will plan a visit to Glasgow in the next year and I will take a photo of stone with my wife Lynne Chisholm and daughters ( if I can get them out of the shops for long enough), who are all direct descendents of William, and post on the site. I now need to find my ancestors who were also from Glasgow but at the other end of the social scene, Irish Catholics, living in Mathieson Street, Hutchesontown in 1901.
I am contacting cemetries department to pay for a search of about 20 Evitt names to allow me to locate their graves. Hoping the that there might be info.on one of origins in Ireland.
                       Thanks again , Eddie.
Alex Glass

Eddie there is a guy who writes in the Local News for Southsiders. He knows a lot about the Southern Necropolis which is located in the Gorbals. He has a website.

CLICK HERE

May be worth contacting him if you have ancestors buried there.
kiped1

Will check out his website. Also have heard St. Kentigans has plenty of Catholic burials from 19th and 20th century
RobinPhillips

John Phillips - Sugar and Tea Merchant in Glasgow

I see that there are several people interested in piecing together the merchant history of Glasgow and so I thought I would send a note to see if anyone can help:
I believe that the garvestone of an elusive ancestor is in the grounds of Ramshorn Kirk in Glasgow.  His name was John Phillips and he died about 1829.
He seems to have been a wealthy merchant living at Stobcross House and his wife was called Francis Martin.
Could some kind person see whether they have a photo or transcription of this particular gravestone please?
John Phillips had 8 children, one of whom was a daughter called Martha who married a John Reid/Reed who was a planter (of sugar?) in Jamaica.
Can anyone help with this brick wall? Cheers
Stuball

Re: John Phillips - Sugar and Tea Merchant in Glasgow

RobinPhillips wrote:
I see that there are several people interested in piecing together the merchant history of Glasgow and so I thought I would send a note to see if anyone can help:
I believe that the garvestone of an elusive ancestor is in the grounds of Ramshorn Kirk in Glasgow.  His name was John Phillips and he died about 1829.
He seems to have been a wealthy merchant living at Stobcross House and his wife was called Francis Martin.
Could some kind person see whether they have a photo or transcription of this particular gravestone please?
John Phillips had 8 children, one of whom was a daughter called Martha who married a John Reid/Reed who was a planter (of sugar?) in Jamaica.
Can anyone help with this brick wall? Cheers


As you can see from above, I have before now walked around the Ramshorn in search of particular gravestones. If I find the time during the week, I'll pop in an have a look around. It would be helpful if you have a plot number? Without that, it can be very difficult to find anything, especially since alot of the stones are badly worn and weathered making them unreadable.
Alex Glass

I wonder if there is am index available for the Ramshorn. Will see if the Council has anything but think this is still in the ownership of the church.
Stuball

Or perhaps Strathclyde University?
cybers

It should be available through the National Burial Index.
Will make an enquiry about this Alex and send you a PM Concerning...
RobinPhillips

John Phillips buried in Ramshorn Kirk

Stuball.  Thanks for your reply.  In terms of Plot Numbers, I have no idea.  How do we find them??
Any assistance you can provide much appreciated.  Cheers. Robin
dickyhart

David Dale, he lived in Cambuslang, his house is now a doctors surgery, factoid fans!!
Stuball

The Ramshorn graveyard appears to be 'closed until further notice'!

I suspect it's sue to the former evening times building subsiding as you can see some supporting scaffold poles
James

Stuball wrote:
The Ramshorn graveyard appears to be 'closed until further notice'!

I suspect it's sue to the former evening times building subsiding as you can see some supporting scaffold poles

I thought that eyesore had been sold off as "luxury city centre apartments"?



James H
Stuball

It has but you wouldnt want to live there now...
James

Stuball wrote:
It has but you wouldnt want to live there now...

I never wanted to live there then...





James H
kiped1

Is ramshorn kirkyard still closed? am flying up to Glasgow in just over a week particularly to visit to see stone of William Chisholm which you chaps found for me a year ago.
Can I still hop over the fence?  
             
  Cheers, Eddie.
Stuball

I havent been along that way for a few weeks so I can't answer your question on whether it's closed or not. If you do take a notion to shimmy the fence, don't do it during the day as the area is just far too busy and someone will no doubt stick their neck in. The stone is fairly easy to find and near the right hand (most easterly) gate... about 4 or 5 in. The plot numbers are marked on the wall but you just need to read the stones as that one is still fairly legible.
dickyhart

kiped1 wrote:
Is ramshorn kirkyard still closed? am flying up to Glasgow in just over a week particularly to visit to see stone of William Chisholm which you chaps found for me a year ago.
Can I still hop over the fence?  
             
  Cheers, Eddie.

Hi Kiped1

maybe if you call them and let them know your coming, they may open it to let you in at a specific time.

Heres the number for the church.

0141 548 2542

best of luck.
Stuball

I went past it today and it IS open but the main gate to the right is still locked but the gate behind the kirk is open
Alex Glass

The cemetery was closed to the public for health & safety reasons. I understand that on of the graves collapsed. If you have any difficulty getting access pop into the City Chambers and ask for me and leave a message. But I think you will be able to gain access throught the gate indicated by Stuball  
kiped1

thanks for that, I'll try not to get arrested!
              Eddie.
joyce

I am going to this Graveyard tomorrow as there is a play being done there between 3pm and 4pm, entry free....
kiped1

Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you but other things take over! We did make it into Ramshorn Kirkyard and found the stone of William Chisholm. See the attached photo of the stone and my wife Lynne Chisholm. She is a great,great,great granddaughter of William. ignore the date on photo, this was taken end of july 2010.
           Had great couple of days in Glasgow and was able to further our research of Chisholms' in Mitchell Library.
         Thanks to all those of you who made this possible,
                             Regards, Eddie.
Alex Glass

Eddie

Glad to see you made it to get a personal photo of this grave.

Next time you are in Glasgow pop in to the City Chambers.
pat r

Ramshorn - Turnbull

Could anybody give me some help?  I know (per Happy Haggis) that Benjamin Turnbull, his wife Grizel, and eldest son William are buried in Ramshorn, and the grave is marked the property of merchant son John. Does anybody have a picture of the gravestone?


Also, not being Scottish, I'm a little confused what a portioner is? how do I find Benjamin Turnbull's land?

Best wishes

Pat
Stuball

Have you got a plot number? Being mostly dark here, I wouldn't be able to get to the kirk to find it for you until about March!
pat r

No, sorry - I just found it at no 517 on the happy haggis list. Where do I get a plot number from plse?   I'm new to Scottish genealogy, and don't really know much about this.

Best wishes

Pat
yokerbrian

Re: Ramshorn - Turnbull

pat r wrote:
Could anybody give me some help?  I know (per Happy Haggis) that Benjamin Turnbull, his wife Grizel, and eldest son William are buried in Ramshorn, and the grave is marked the property of merchant son John. Does anybody have a picture of the gravestone?


Also, not being Scottish, I'm a little confused what a portioner is? how do I find Benjamin Turnbull's land?

Best wishes

Pat


Hi Pat

A portioner is someone who is the proprietor of a small portion of a larger piece of land; a laird of a small estate
pat r

Thank you for that - can I go further and find details of the estate/land?

How do I do that?

Best wishes

Pat
Alex Glass

Hi Pat

If I get some time this week or next week I will take a look for you to see if I can find it.

I work near there so as long as the snow clears it should be ok to see.
pat r

Hi Alex,

Thank you so much!

Best wishes

Pat
hatlett@gmail.com

St David's Ramshorn Church in Ingram Street.

Looking for the tombstones of Archibald Hunter (1768-1831) and his wife Helen Graham Hunter (1778-1853), and possibly other Hunter family members in the "St David's Ramshorn Churchyar" on Ingram Street. Any help would be much appreciated.
Hat
Alex Glass

Will try and locate my photos of the graveyard and see if I took any of the graves you are looking for.

If not then unless someone else does it first then I will visit the nex time I am in town and see about getting a few photos for you.
Stuball

A plot number would be handy
leep

cowan family plot at st david's ramshorn burial ground

Looking for tombstone inscriptions/photos/info etc on Cowan family - especially John Cowan b. 13 May 1828- drowned 22 July 1848. He was son of John Cowan, Esq, accountant at Union Bank of Scotland. The OPR reference says he is buried in the lair of J. Cowan, SC , nbr & wall is 3/13, church yard is St David's.  John Cowan, senior, died 13 Feb 1885 & his Will mentions 'my family burying ground adjoining the High Church, Glasgow, the wall number of same being 95'. Other Cowan family members may include Janet Buchanan Cowan (died 30 Jul 1830), Janet Lindsay Cowan 12 Sep 1824-??, Michael Rowan Cowan 25 May 1839- ??,   Jane Govan Cowan 02 Oct 1814-24 May 1845, Robert Govan Cowan 07 May 1841-26 June 1879. Any info on these Cowan family members would be greatly appreciated.
Alex Glass

There is a thread where this could have been posted.

I may try and get up to the cemetery later in the week and see if I can locate it for you.
leep

Cowan family plot at St David's Ramshorn burial ground

Thanks Alex.  Am really grateful for any help you can give me. Apologies for creating a new thread - I'm a 'senior' in Aust who struggles with even the most basic computer 'skills'!
Alex Glass

I can try and get up to the Mitchell Library to get you a copy of the Herald article and any other associated items but it may be a couple of weeks.

Happy to hel and please don't worry about my moaning  

Is there any other photos of graves in Ramshorn Cemetery you need?
leep

Cowan family at St David's Ramshorn burial ground

Alex - Thanks so much for yr prompt replies and offers of help.  There is no urgency - so whenever/whatever you can manage will be much appreciated.  I don't know of any other burials at Ramshorn that are connected to Cowan family apart from those I mentioned in earlier post. I have OPR death record of Janet Buchanan Cowan for 30 July 1830 and the burial place is 'John Cowan's lair' followed by letters I think are "HC" or "NC" ?? The death record for Robert Govan Cowan for 26 June 1879 was registered in parish of Eastwood in County Renfrew but no cemetery details recorded. Fingers crossed that all are inscribed at Ramshorn and in legible condition! Cheers.
Alex Glass

Re: Ramshorn - Turnbull

pat r wrote:
Could anybody give me some help?  I know (per Happy Haggis) that Benjamin Turnbull, his wife Grizel, and eldest son William are buried in Ramshorn, and the grave is marked the property of merchant son John. Does anybody have a picture of the gravestone?


Also, not being Scottish, I'm a little confused what a portioner is? how do I find Benjamin Turnbull's land?

Best wishes

Pat


Sorry for the lengthy delay but I may have found the gravestone you are looking for. I will post up a photo later.
Alex Glass

A year and 4 months late but here are the photos of Benjamin Turnbull's gave stone in Ramshorn Graveyard



it reads
John Turnbull
Merchant Glasgow
Sacred
The Memory of his Father
Benjimin Turnbull
Portioner Glasgow
Who Died on the 7th June 1833(?)
Age 70 Years
And of his Mother
Grizel Steel
Who Died on the 8th January 1848(?)
Age 74 Years
Also
His Brother
William Turnbull
Who Died 9th August 1820
Age 26 Years



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