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libcat

Rutherglen

hi, im trying to find a photo of the new era bar, rutherglen road ,my granpa was the landlord sometime in the 40s ,his name was tommy kelly his wife cathie,daughters ann and cathie also their son dick , found one on old glasgow pubs but it was a bus trip and you cant see the pub,or if anyone remembers it
                             thanks
kev

will have a look ...sure ive seen a pic somewhere
Hamski

http://www.oldglasgowpubs.co.uk/newera.html

calamity

has anyone been for a look at the houses Stan Laurel lived in when he was a boy in Rutherglen.
dickyhart

ive tried but noone seems sure which house it is, ive been told it was next to the old stonelaw school, also been told its further up.
bullet

He lived in Buchanan Drive, before moving to 185 Stonelaw Road and then onto 17 Craigmillar Road, Battlefield.
namestain

bullet wrote:
He lived in Buchanan Drive, before moving to 185 Stonelaw Road and then onto 17 Craigmillar Road, Battlefield.


Is that Buchanan Drive in Cambuslang ?

Namestain
bullet

Hi Namestain, it was Buchanan Drive in Rutherglen which is just off Stonelaw Road. It didn't give a house number unfortunately. The book I got it from is Stan and Ollie - The roots of comedy.
namestain

thanks

this will be handy to interest / bore the wife and weans with while driving home up Stonelaw Road !

interesting wee fact in itself though, 2 streets with exactly the same name within 3/4 of a mile of each other.

I wonder how often that happens in the city.

namestain
Hamski

Cathcart Road in Mt Florida and Rutherglen
joyce


Click to see full size image
RUTHERGLEN TOWN HALL
calamity

Has anyone seen Stan Laurels house on Stonelaw road , I took some and put the on the Laurel and Hardy website along with two other places he lived and his school Stonelaw.
namestain

I wonder if he had his first fish supper out of Dello's ?



seriously though, what is the address of the house ?

TIA

namestain
falseface

calamity wrote:
Has anyone seen Stan Laurels house on Stonelaw road , I took some and put the on the Laurel and Hardy website along with two other places he lives, and his school Stonelaw.


aye.
In fact I think I seen your pictures on the L and H web site.

Have you been to his Mums grave over Cathcart way?

I'm going over at the end of the month if you want to come along. Also RS Mcoll's buried their , if anyone up for a visit let me know

Cheers

FF
Stuball

I always like a visit to Cathcart Cemetery.... but its a big graveyard, do you have the locations or plot numbers?
calamity

falseface wrote:
calamity wrote:
Has anyone seen Stan Laurels house on Stonelaw road , I took some and put the on the Laurel and Hardy website along with two other places he lives, and his school Stonelaw.


aye.
In fact I think I seen your pictures on the L and H web site.

Have you been to his Mums grave over Cathcart way?

I'm going over at the end of the month if you want to come along. Also RS Mcoll's buried their , if anyone up for a visit let me know

Cheers

FF
Id love to go never visited there yet, but Ill wait and see how the weather goes.
calamity

namestain wrote:
I wonder if he had his first fish supper out of Dello's ?



seriously though, what is the address of the house ?

TIA

namestain
its 185 Stonelaw Road, a lovely semi detached house and another beautiful detached house on Buchanan drive in Rutherglen too..think no 6 , Ill try and find out for you. have the photo somewhere.
namestain

thanks Calamity

it's funny but for some reason you assume famous people must've come from humble beginnings - obviously not in Stan's case ?
calamity

no it seems his dad either managed or owned the Metropole where Stan worked selling tickets when he left school.. Ive searched for school photos with him in them but have had no success so far. Stan and Ollie visited the Kings picture hall in James st Bridgeton in 1930 Ive just been finding out as did Edward G Robinson. Stan wanted to come for the opening of the New Metropole when Jimmy Logan bought it over, but he was too ill at the time to attend.
namestain

what schools did he attend ?

I have decent school links in the area and could maybe get access to old photos
calamity

Stonelaw Road Rutherglen is the only one I know of in Glasgow but he lived over in Langside area too in a tenement. I cant get into this site but says him and Ollie visited this school in Queens Park.. which ties in with his tenement house over that way..

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Stan Laurel's Queen's Park. School, which he and Oliver. Hardy visited in 1947. The 40- page booklet is still available from Langside library. ...
www.lbccc.org.uk/wordpress/wp.../Community-Champion-Awards.pdf
dickyhart

A wee pic i took the other night.

Rutherglen Bell Tower
Fjord

Was that roof rebuilt in the last decade (not the whole church) as I'm sure I seen that go up in flames one afternoon 20 years ago
calamity

Stan also lived over in Langside...  


RUTHERGLEN,
BUCHANAN DRIVE - 185 STONELAW ROAD
QUEENS PARK SECONDARY SCHOOL
Stan attended classes.
joyce

Couple of pics I took last night





Charlie Endell

Should this not be moved to 'Wannabe Glasgow Bits'   ?
calamity

house on the left where Stan Laurel lived on Stonelaw road.

joyce

Main Street Rutherglen Nov 2010
joyce

Rutherglen "Dr Quigleys"

Does anyone know anything about Dr Quigley from Rutherglen?
Any photos or info would be appreciated.
I know where his house stood is now an estate Called Quigleys Estate, but cant find anything else anywhere else.
Would love to see a photo of his old house if anyone can come up with one...Thanks
joyce


Burgh Primary School, King Street.
joyce

The Picture House Pub, Main Street, Rutherglen.

Doog Doog

Nice pics,Joyce.
fastnet

joyce wrote:
The Picture House Pub, Main Street, Rutherglen.



You get nice wee haggis fritters in there.......
joyce

Lol, need to give them a try then.....
joyce

joyce


Rutherglen Cemetry.
joyce


Rutherglen Main Street. Taken from Harleys Sky Bar 2011.
joyce

Prospecthill Circus


Click to see full size image
Doog Doog

waiting for a fire....
joyce

Dont know why I cant add photos I have taken loads but cant seem to add them here....
cybers

Your uploading to the forum rather than using an image hosting account off-site.
Use flickr or Photobucket, tinypic etc to solve your issues.
Gareth1974

Re: Prospecthill Circus

joyce wrote:

Click to see full size image


The little high-rises were actually the first in Glasgow although only 9 stories tall.  

On the wee grassy hill at top of the road there used to a playpark with some metal climbing frames in the shape of a ice cream cone, a space ship (looked like the rentry module for an Apollo) and some weird sinuous walkway type frame.

although I have to say that this is Toryglen and not Rutherglen.
cybers

The first high rise in Glasgow was Moss Heights in Cardonald but claim was also made for Crathie Drive in Partick and both are recognised as the first By GCC as they were completed within days of each other...
But you were correct in your placement as Toryglen.
Gareth1974

Change to 'amongst the first in Glasgow' then.  I had that belief for over 20 years now because I got that info from an exhibition on Toryglen held in the church hall of Toryglen Parish Church many years ago.  The exhibition had aerial photographs of the area with the tents and old army Nissan huts of the Travellers camp still evident in the nearby Malls Mire.  Oh yes and there was a few bricks stamped with the names of local brickworks as well.

Saying that it does predate most of the high-rises (if you can call this little row a 'high-rise') by many years as most of the multi-stories were built in the mid to late 60's.

I had a friend who stayed there and I remember it used to have a laundrette in the basement with old brass machines.  The build quality of these blocks are far superior to most of the later high-rises which is probably why a lot of them are now privately owned; you find a lot of them for sale.

UK Housing Wiki states that nearby 24 Crossbank Road was built in 1955 but it's sister 99 Prospecthill Circus was built in 1963?  Quite a difference between the 99 and 24 blocks as they are/were of identical construction.  I'm pretty sure the 1955 date is wrong.
cybers

You do know the wee flats in the picture are in Prospecthill Crescent  
ten floors high and built in the late 60's just to make sure we are on the same page  

Edit:
though depending what you read they could have been there as early as 1955 but that page also lists them as 15 stories high
cybers

http://www.scottisharchitects.org.uk/building_full.php?id=405804

Pretty damn close to being the first according to the Scottish Architects site ....
Gareth1974

The block visible in the pic is 999 Prospecthill Road.

There is indeed a row of three other identical multi-stories that are seriaten and are part of Prospecthill Crescent; it is just that one that has the Prospecthill Road adress.  These will be 3, 7, 11, Prospecthill Crescent listed in your link.  As you can see from Google link below there are actually four of them.

I remember my classmate lived there and we always made a joke because his address was '999' - 'phone ra Polis' and other pathetic unfunny jokes.

They were also on my paper round as well; I used to get my papers from a guy called Ian who parked his trailer outside St Brigid's Chapel on a Sunday morning.

The wee hill in  the pic above is the one I used to climb every day to go to school.  Instead of taking the long route around the playpark we used to cut through to where there was a hole cut in the fence; must've shaved about 2 minutes off our travel time which was important when we wanted to get to school right at bell time.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=...&resnum=1&ved=0CB8Q8gEwAA
hillmanimp

cybers wrote:
You do know the wee flats in the picture are in Prospecthill Crescent  
ten floors high and built in the late 60's just to make sure we are on the same page  

Edit:
though depending what you read they could have been there as early as 1955 but that page also lists them as 15 stories high


cybers

We moved to Toryglen in about 1958.  All six of the high rises were already there.  The 4 smaller ones (9 or 10) stories seemed "old" and the 2 15 story ones seemed brand spanking new, but were already built.  I have no memories of them being built.

Other memories.  When we moved there, Toryglen was served by 3 bus routes which came from St Enoch's Square.  The 7, 7A and 7B.

The 7 and 7a went up Curtis Ave, with the 7 turning up Castlemilk Rd.  Its terminus was near the church close to Kings Park Ave.

The 7A carried on up Curtis Ave and turned into Montford Ave.  Its terminus was somewhere along there.  As I recall, the 7A didn't turn round, but carried straight along Montford and turned into Castlemilk Rd for the return to St Enoch's.

The 7B went up Prospecthill Road and turned round at the junction of Prostpecthill Crescent and Edinbeg Ave.  After some years the route was renumbered 12.

The number 2 bus came from Rutherglen and initially had its terminus in Rutherglen round about Acredyke Rd.  So there was a distance between the 2 and 12 routes termini that one had to walk!  At some point the route 2  terminus was moved to the circle outside 999 Prospecthill Rd.  I am falrly sure it was before Toryglen north was started.

Imp
Gareth1974

The 15 story blocks are of a different construction and are further up the Crescent.  I think they were built later.  Moss Heights where however built a few years before both of these types.

I remember the 7 terminus as well: it was at the top of the hill; it now serves as a taxi rank and the other bus stop that serves the 12/12a and 89/90 (not sure which direction they operate) is just across from it and is still in operation to this day.  For some reason my grandad used to go on on the 89/90 Inner Circle bus run when he got his travel pass; sometimes I would accompany him and me and my friends used to go on it too when we got our transcards or 'trannies.'

I remember as well when the buses were deregulated and the wee 'Harriers'  would operate along the basic 12 route (they took a detour through Old Toryglen before proceeding onto Rutherglen) and they used to race with the orange SPTE buses round the circus to grab the fares.  The harriers were smaller and nippier but it didn't deter the double-decker drivers from indulging in a race with them.
cybers

hillmanimp wrote:
cybers wrote:
You do know the wee flats in the picture are in Prospecthill Crescent  
ten floors high and built in the late 60's just to make sure we are on the same page  

Edit:
though depending what you read they could have been there as early as 1955 but that page also lists them as 15 stories high


cybers

We moved to Toryglen in about 1958.  All six of the high rises were already there.  The 4 smaller ones (9 or 10) stories seemed "old" and the 2 15 story ones seemed brand spanking new, but were already built.  I have no memories of them being built.

Other memories.  When we moved there, Toryglen was served by 3 bus routes which came from St Enoch's Square.  The 7, 7A and 7B.

The 7 and 7a went up Curtis Ave, with the 7 turning up Castlemilk Rd.  Its terminus was near the church close to Kings Park Ave.

The 7A carried on up Curtis Ave and turned into Montford Ave.  Its terminus was somewhere along there.  As I recall, the 7A didn't turn round, but carried straight along Montford and turned into Castlemilk Rd for the return to St Enoch's.

The 7B went up Prospecthill Road and turned round at the junction of Prostpecthill Crescent and Edinbeg Ave.  After some years the route was renumbered 12.

The number 2 bus came from Rutherglen and initially had its terminus in Rutherglen round about Acredyke Rd.  So there was a distance between the 2 and 12 routes termini that one had to walk!  At some point the route 2  terminus was moved to the circle outside 999 Prospecthill Rd.  I am falrly sure it was before Toryglen north was started.

Imp


They were only signed off as completed in 1956 we already found that out via the Scottish Architects and National Registers of Scotland the link was posted a few replies above Imp.
The problem with nostalgia is it's never what it was perceived as ... Time clouds memories and Gareth made the excellent point that one block stands on Prospecthill Road a detail i actually had no idea about.
Hawick_1987

Gareth1974 wrote:
I remember as well when the buses were deregulated and the wee 'Harriers'  would operate along the basic 12 route (they took a detour through Old Toryglen before proceeding onto Rutherglen) and they used to race with the orange SPTE buses round the circus to grab the fares.  The harriers were smaller and nippier but it didn't deter the double-decker drivers from indulging in a race with them.


Good to know some things haven't changed!    Stagecoach vs First in Easterhouse and First v City Sprinter down Pollokshaws Road -- wee Grannies being battered down the aisles at traffic lights  
clarkfield

cybers wrote:
http://www.scottisharchitects.org.uk/building_full.php?id=405804

Pretty damn close to being the first according to the Scottish Architects site ....


I go along with you Cybers. I believe Cardonald has the distinction of having the first high rise flats in Glasgow - Moss Heights and the last ones in Glasgow - Queensland Court.
joyce


Click to see full size image
Taken from Queen Street, Rutherglen looking over to Rutherglen Train Station. 5th Feb 2012
joyce


Main Street. Taken Jan 2012
joyce


Rutherglen Main Street. Taken Jan 2012.
joyce


King Street, Rutherglen Jan 2012
joyce


King Street, Rutherglen. Jan 2012.
joyce


King Street, Rutherglen. Taken Jan 2012.
Hawick_1987

Off the beaten track Joyce - nice!  
joyce

Thought it might help.....
joyce


Another wee one 2011
joyce


Taken 2011
joyce


13th Jan 2012
joyce


Looking across Main Street to Stonelaw Road. taken Jan 2012
joyce


Salvation Army at King Street. Taken jan 2012
Doog Doog

Nice wee set of pics Joyce
joyce


Main Street, Rutherglen Jan 2012.
joyce


Main Street Jan 2012
Beano

Joyce....great set        
joyce


Burgh Primary School, Victoria Street, Rutherglen taken Jan 2012.
joyce


Victoria Place Rutherglen. Feb 2012
joyce


Rutherglen Old Parish Church. Feb 2012
joyce


Looking down to Rutherglen Train Station and across to Victoria Street from Queen Street Bridge. Taken Feb 2012.
Hawick_1987

Nice pics Joyce  
Doog Doog

Nice pics Joyce
joyce


Going down Mill Street to Main Street. Feb 2012
joyce


Looking over to Rutherglen Train Station from the bridge at Queen Street, Rutherglen. Taken 14th Feb 2012
Beano

Joyce....nice photos and good work pal..  
calamity

joyce

Great one there of Dr Gormans statue....
calamity

thanks Joyce.








Doog Doog

calamity
dmk

i taught myself to swim at rutherglen's swimming pool
it was behind a really modern looking chapel ..... can't remember it's name
it was a very modern pool too come to think of it ...all very 70's lol
although we were all given our bus fare we use to walk there and back ... more money to spend in the chippy beside chapmans pub
we went swimming most saturdays happy days
fastnet

It's all gone now Donna...


The chapel is still there though....st columbkille's
dmk

awwww  
i had great fun there
cybers

Never went to Ruglen baffs ... When we went abroad for swimmin it was either Bishopbriggs. Easterhoose, Castlemilk or the Dollan in E.K

I had a love of diving as a kid would launch aff anything at any height It was my forte so to speak then the schools ended competitive diving as a sport. I never lost interest though and still go off a few high things mostly Falloch now though ... as Pools follow the H&S directive and kill competitive Diving in the U.K outright.

Swimming will be next.

Stuball

My primary school used to take us to Rutherglen pool and thats where I learned to swim... remember it well
streapadair

Mine went to Pollokshaws, and that's where I damn nearly drowned the first time I went. A classmate who (presumably) thought I could swim pushed me in out of my depth and I was seriously floundering till another boy jumped in and pulled me out.

Never went back, and I still can't swim. Daft and illogical, I know, but there you are.
norrie

Its well seen I am at a loose end today , just remembered this thread for Rutherglen, I will add photos when I get time, I have some photo of other towns and couldnt think where to post them
hillmanimp

norrie wrote:
Its well seen I am at a loose end today , just remembered this thread for Rutherglen, I will add photos when I get time, I have some photo of other towns and couldnt think where to post them


Hi Norrie

Wouldn't it be easier for you just tell where you don't have photos from

Imp
norrie

Hi Hillmanimp, yes it would  only two areas and some stuff I misssed in the west end
clarkfield

streapadair wrote:
Mine went to Pollokshaws, and that's where I damn nearly drowned the first time I went. A classmate who (presumably) thought I could swim pushed me in out of my depth and I was seriously floundering till another boy jumped in and pulled me out.

Never went back, and I still can't swim. Daft and illogical, I know, but there you are.


SNAP, Streap, the same thing happened to me at school aged 12 and I never learned to swim either, now 78.
skintobalinto

Rutherglen Main Street








Rutherglen Parish Church



cybers

Ah seen snow white in that Cinema...in Ruglen
Beano

Skinto....wonderful set mate, keep them coming.        
joyce

Love your photos Skinto...
joyce


Looking down Mill Street. Taken 27th Jan 2012.
joyce


Mill Street Shops. Taken 27th Jan 2012.
cybers

Never seen the Cathkin Inn looks so Gloomy... Well apart from when they introduced Karaoke as a form of friday entertainment right enough.
skintobalinto

Main Street


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