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Stuball

Springburn Public Halls

Springburn Public Halls were built between 1899 and 1902 and funded by the Reid family of Nelson, Reid & Co. This was an arrangement with the Corporation as long as they funded the nearby Winter Gardens in Springburn Park.  The building is a red sandstone ashler construction in an Italian Renaissance style designed by William B. Whitie.
The building was originally opposed by the city fathers as it was campaigned for by the residents of Springburn for a place to hold larger public gatherings. It was during the foundation stone laying ceremony that Baillie Samuel Chisholm referred to the people of Springburn as the 'petted and spoiled child of the corporation'.
Opening on the 16th of May 1902, it survived as until the 1960s despite its expensive hire costs. It was converted to a sports centre and then finally closed in the mid 80s and has been derelict since.







Some up-to-date pictures





The statue on either side of the main windor are greek goddesses, one of which holds a locomotive to represent the areas main industry.



The top inscription read SONG:MUSIC:STORY



A fine version of the Glasgow coat of arms above the main entrance

cybers

Funny how one of those Cherubs is a little coy there whilst the other one is drying his nutsack in the breeze..
lenzie39

What a sad sight that building is.

Sums up what the planners did to Springburn in a nutshell really.

Does anyone know if the purchase by Spectrum Properties went ahead last month?
James

lenzie39 wrote:
Does anyone know if the purchase by Spectrum Properties went ahead last month?

I believe it did.



James H
Alex Glass

Well done Stu.

Great piece of information which will hopefully set the scene for a evolving thread as this building is hopefully restored as part of the recent planning permission which was granted in 17th November 2009.

Hi Lenzie and    to Urban Glasgow

Here is the report which was considered at the Planning Committee when the application was granted permission.

Springburn Hall

I am sure that over the coming months some members may be able to post photos as the project develops.
Stuball

I'd like to find a photograph of when the artists covered the outside with candles
Alex Glass

Sure it will be located within the Mitchell. Particularly if it was a commissioned piece of art. Do you know when this took place?
Stuball

I cant remember exactly when it was. The first I knew about it was when I saw a picture of it and that may have been an old picture for all I know. It wasnt the best quality shot either.
The virtual mitchell has a couple of shots of the halls but they arent for the taking or hotlinking
Alex Glass

You would need to go to the Mitchell and have a look in their big filing cabinet full of photos Stu.

They should be indexed so it would be worth asking one of the librarians.
Stuball

Will I be allowed to copy it for publication on here?
LowLight

Good info and pics there Stu, thanks.
Stuball





LowLight

Nice one Stu.
Beano

Stuball wrote:




Fantastic shots Stuball but very sad to see it looking like this.
John

Well done Stu that was a nice surprise
Stuball

Thanks... I've got more to post from the entrance lobby, the smaller hall and a little of the basement
katimac

Stuball wrote:
Thanks... I've got more to post from the entrance lobby, the smaller hall and a little of the basement


Can't wait to see them!!  I've been wanting to see the inside of the halls for a very long time now- great photos Stuball!
kev

This would have been taken from the balcony on the right in Stu,s pictures..sometime around 1970
The various faiths in the community used to hold meetings there once a year.Got this from my mother who is the woman in the picture..the guy sitting to her right with the big kipper tie is Micheal martin..ex speaker of the house of commons in his pre expeneses scandal life

Doog Doog

Good stuff Stu.
How sad and forlorn it looks.
cybers

Brilliant effort yet again Stu...
As dangerous as it looks ?
Stuball

yes
Doorstop

I hope you're well insured my old son.  
Stuball

Main Entrance Lobby



South Stairs and Gents Lavatory Entrance



Stuball

The Smaller Hall



The Basement



Doorstop

Getting those lavatory sign tiles off in one piece would make a nice wee memento methinks.
cybers

Leaving them be might mean the rest does not collapse on yir heed though  

Brilliant set Stu some real gems in there....  
Doog Doog

Yes,excellent stuff.
kev

Many thanks to our own Mr Alex Glass for arranging access into the building and to the two very helpful gentlemen from the council for facilitating it...top stuff..Dont think there can be many more opportunities left like this in the city to see something like this..Stus photos of the main hall are great..mine are guff as I havent done any real lowlight photography...tripod being procured this weekend...anyway here are some that came out ok

Notice board in the main foyer



Hole in the main floor looking down to basement



Stairs down to basement..which is apparently home to some rather large rats



Main doors onto Millerbank St



Stairs up to the balcony




The place is a total haunted house and this shot is of old ghosts queueing up to pay in at the cashiers window to the dancing which used to be held there on Saturdays and Mondays


..   As I said...tripod reqd

Close up of the Lavvy sign

Doog Doog

Really like the 'spooky' one Kev.
lenzie39

Fantastic pics there - hope M & M Secuity let you in and out unscathed!  

Have had some long held curiosity satisfied about that building.

Will be great to see it restored soon.
Stuball

I can assure you that M&M security are not on site
Alex Glass

Some of my photos from the visit to Springburn Hall













Alex Glass

Outside Springburn Hall







gallowgategal

Stuball wrote:




When I worked in Cowlairs Road DHSS in the late 70s we used to hire that hall for mixed 5 a sides games. Think I spent most of my lunch hour falling about the floor and getting pushed and kicked by my colleagues  

It was a good laugh though  
kev

[quote="Alex Glass"]Outsiide Springburn Hall





View from roughly the same position in 1967...A school visit to the fire station



The door we entered in  the other day is the one through the fire engines windscreen
The tenement on the corner of Millerbank st and Keppochill road and the church are long gone..
BTW Thats me in the balaclava looking up at who knows ...
kev

A past present of the main stage




lenzie39

Any news as to when work starts on the renovation?
Gazza

Great website, found it today.

I was brought up in the od Fire Station across the road my dad was a Fireman, I went to Gourlay St School then onto Colston, left Springburn when I was 14 to emigrate to Oz.

I remember one time during the summer holidays we would get our lunch from the Springburn hall and in later years we would get our lunch at the Orange Lodge hall further down the road. I remember exploring the hall on a number of occasions it's very sad to see the state it's in I hope they fix it up it was a magnificent building.

I remember Cowlairs Church next door when I was in the 25th BB, great times and great memories.

I hope everyone is well.

Gazza
lenzie39

Keppochhill Road been closed off last couple of days whilst contractors have been working at the site to make the old Public Halls safe.

http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=9578

Appears the most recent inspection by the Council has identified immediate cause for concern.

The latest planning permission granted around 3 years ago has never amounted to anything so fingers crossed someone else steps in to retain the facade at least.
derelictglasgow

Springburn Public Halls - Demolition Xmas 2012

getting demolished right now, here's an older shot of it, and i'll post some demolition shots over the next days, apparently one wall is already down. It's happening so quick I think they must be going for retrospective permission as it is B listed and there hasn't been time for proper consultation one would assume.... by the time historic scotland wake up from the xmas snooze the building will be gone.


weechookieburdie

What a shame, another magnificent building allowed to get into a ruinous state, having seen the pictures on the other thread of the interior main hall with the (remains of) the organ, the acoustics must have been amazing. Tragic to see it in this state.
Marti

Pass it every day...never knew what it was used for, but it stands out, shame really...
James

Re: Springburn Public Halls - Demolition Xmas 2012

derelictglasgow wrote:
getting demolished right now, here's an older shot of it, and i'll post some demolition shots over the next days, apparently one wall is already down. It's happening so quick I think they must be going for retrospective permission as it is B listed and there hasn't been time for proper consultation one would assume.... by the time historic scotland wake up from the xmas snooze the building will be gone.

Disgraceful. Same thing happened with the old Partick Central station building
on Benalder Street bridge - knocked down in a flash over the festive period.
By Tesco, if I recall correctly.

And, it also happened to the Elgin Place Congregational Church in Pitt Street
now that I remember. Bulldozed on Christmas Eve 2004.  




James H
Stuball

So thats why the sudden interest on flickr for these photos.... such a shame, it was a treasure of a building. Surprised it lasted as long as it did beyond our visit
DavidMcD316

So let it rot for 30 years THEN tear it down? What a joke!
derelictglasgow

even when they do demolish these buildings it seems such a shame nothing is salvaged. Of course removing such heavyweight sculptural elements would be tricky, but to let them get smashed into rubble always seems so absurb considering the level of skill, art and craftmanship their creation demanded.

Of course Glasgow City Council seem rather keen on disposing of statues at the moment.


Jester

What a waste. A fantastic building left to rot by those who are supposedly its guardians. What room for heritage in a modern, shiny Glasgow?
derelictglasgow

In a very sorry state it looks like the hall's last days are upon us...



Cordoned off with two road closures.


Visible are the large low earth embankments built around both street elevations visible here. The only time I've seen these in use are as 'crash-mats' for falling stone when demolition takes place.


Demolition plant on site.


Side building has already been taken down revealing the internal common brick wall


On the front elevation the two statues have been removed leaving a pair of empty niches.
cybers

If they took the time to remove the statues then that would hint at some sort of facade retention. Removal would mean they would not get shook loose and damaged when they flatten the rest out.
John

That's what I was thinking David, the statues would have been unstable and the crash mat may just be a precaution whilst they demolish the rear leaving the facade intact. I'm sure Burnfield Demolition did a similar job on the Olympia building without shoring the frontage.
kev

This part of the roof has had a hole in it for some time..visible when driving by.There has obviously been a major collapse at this area





Marti

Whatever the reason...i'm glad the statues are safe...what's the reason for the carving of a loco on this one...???

Jester

Springburn was the centre of loco construction in Scotland/ the world at its peak.
Stuball

Just hopeful here, but is it possible they are just demolishing the side part of the building? On my visit, it was in the poorest condition
James

It's the end as historic halls are demolished (© Evening Times)

A HISTORIC building in Glasgow is being demolished over safety fears.


Work has started to knock down the former Springburn Public Halls after it was
found to have "significant damage". As reported in the Evening Times on Saturday,
council workers shut off part of Keppochhill Road last week over fears the 110-year-old
building could collapse.

The halls, at 46 Keppochhill Road, were fenced off and the road closure was put in
place at Millarbank Street. Workers made the building secure while an investigation
was carried out to establish the scale of the damage. Once the decision was made
that nothing could be done to save the B-Listed halls, demolition experts were called
in and have now started dismantling parts of the building by hand. Bulldozers are
expected to move in by the end of the week.

The building is owned by the council. It is attached to tenement blocks, with almost
40 homes. A Glasgow City Council spokesman said "We hand delivered letters to the
people who live beside the halls. They were told we might have no option but to demolish
the building."

The Italianate-style, red sandstone building was opened in 1902 and from 1960 was used
as Springburn Sports Centre. It was closed by Glasgow District Council due to dry rot
problems in 1985 and has lain empty and rotting since. Since then, building surveys
have shown the walls are deteriorating and moss and plant growth is beginning to
damage the stonework.

One resident, who did not want to be named, said she felt the people living next to
the landmark had been put in danger. She said: "My back bedroom and kitchen is now
part of the fenced off zone and we feel like we are in danger. The halls should have
come down years ago or something should have been done to stop them from getting
this bad. We should have been moved if they have been this unsafe."

Developers have shown interest in developing the building for various different uses
since its closure in 1985. But none of the proposals were ever taken forward. In 2009
a deal between the council and Spectrum Properties to convert the building into
offices and a childcare centre fell through. The council spokesman said the demolition
work was expected to take six weeks.

Diversions mean traffic is being directed to the Springburn Expressway, Fountainwell Road,
Pinkston Road, then on to Keppochhill Road.



James H
kev

Didnt take long to knock down

Took the 1st pic around 4 yesterday and the rest about 1 pm today

















cybers

Another travesty.
Delmont St Xavier

I wonder how long before Whiteinch Lesser Halls succumb to the same fate..

I love the way that Glasgow treasures its heritage and buildings of significant style and meaning to a local community.  

I don't think it is a travesty, I think it is criminal!
Hawick_1987

cybers wrote:
Another travesty.


Spot on. I understand the phenomenal costs involved in making the halls habitable again, but that architecture is now lost to the world.  
DavidMcD316

Legalised vandalism.

A joke.
Marti

It's quite sad to think that the owners of the now gone halls deliberately let it rot beyond economical repair, as is the case of most of past buildings that have met the same fate.

They should be ashamed to be associated with ownership of the building.
I think it was always going to be, it's just the detailed architecture on this particular subject was worth saving, it stood out.

Ah well...
kev

3 more for the archive










Personally I never thought it a good looking building and it was certainly of its time .Location did it no favours in recent times as it once served a vibrant large working community which is not there now.Sad as it may be everything eventually will go ...and this was its time..will pop down tomorrow and update with more pics


James

cybers wrote:
Another travesty.

Delmont St Xavier wrote:
I wonder how long before Whiteinch Lesser Halls succumb to the same fate..

I love the way that Glasgow treasures its heritage and buildings of significant style and meaning to a local community.  

I don't think it is a travesty, I think it is criminal!

DavidMcD316 wrote:
Legalised vandalism.

A joke.

Said it already but it's quite simply disgraceful.    


James H
Alex Glass

Sad to see this building go. There were plans to build houses near the building and the money raised would have  gone toward the renovation of the halls.

Glad I had the opportunity to get inside and take some photos about two years ago.
Delmont St Xavier

Alex where are they so that we can see them?
Alex Glass

Check the fist pages Dex  it was a bit grim inside.
Delmont St Xavier

Thanks Alex!

As grim as it was, one can almost imagine what it was like in its heyday.  The vast amount of space, the luxury of size and the grandiose yet simple style inside yet outside, one of the most ornate buildings in the north of the city and now it's gone!

Sad sigh here....
Stuball

*sigh* sad news indeed. So glad I have the pictures from inside
cybers

Obviously too close to houses for it to have had the mandatory fire.
kev

This fine looking gentleman is James Ried of Auchteradrer and Hyypepark locomotive works who,s family  gifted the now demolished halls to the people of Springburn.
This statue stands at  the highest part of Glasgow and once would have had commanding views over the city...lots of trees now





kev

Went down today .The place is pretty much gone though a bit remains attached to the tenement in Keppochill rd
Presume they have to be a bit careful as the hall was probably supporting the gable




View through the halls of Gourley St school built around the same time and in pristine condition




Im surprised at the amount of steel/iron thats lying about but suppose it must have in use pretty much....think all tenements with shops below are supported on beams.
Anyway the one still in position was the support for the organ and clad in timber  clearly visible in Stu,s classic shot of the stage (BTW STU..THE SPRINGBURN WEBSITE HAS THAT AS ITS ONLY FEATURE PHOTO FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS}






Will get some pics of the basement once they start digging it out
norrie

Hi Kev, I only found out about this when it was too late to get any shots of the demolition
Its taken a long time for this too happen, was it always on the plans?
Stevie

Latest news in the Evening Times.

Fears historic Springburn statues could be sold-off.

A LOCAL historian has called for statues from the former Springburn Public Halls to be put on display for the people of Glasgow.



As first reported in the Evening Times, the building was demolished due to safety fears after it was found to have "significant damage".

Architectural features from the 110-year-old building have been removed – but experts fear they will not see the light of day again.

Gary Nisbet, a sculpture historian, said he first drew attention to the plight of the council-owned Springburn Halls in 2007.

At the time he claimed the building was a "tarnished jewel being left to rot" and called for something to be done about the state of the building.

His concerns come after statues from Townhead Public Library were sold to an American when that building was demolished.

Mr Nisbet said: "It is an outrage that the Springburn Halls were allowed to get to the point where they had to be knocked down so quickly.

"I believe the statues are in storage now and, with Glasgow City Council's record, I highly doubt the public will ever get to see them again.

"These fine statues show what Springburn had to give the world and the council has taken them away from Springburn.

"I just hope they don't end up suffering the same fate as the Townhead statues, which are now expensive gnomes in an Illinois garden."

Workers moved in to demolish the B-listed building over Christmas due to fears it might collapse.

The Italianate-style, red sandstone halls, built in 1912, were fenced off and surrounding roads closed.

Springburn MSP Patricia Ferguson said she was "extremely disappointed" the local authority had allowed the building to become dilapidated.

She said: "I think that the demolition has happened with unseemly haste.

"I would like to have seen more consultation about what could be done to preserve the building.

"There were a number of important architectural features, and more might have been done to save them.

"It was a listed building and there are certain responsibilities regarding that which I would like to have seen observed."

From 1960 the building was used as Springburn Sports Centre.

It was closed by Glasgow District Council in 1985 due to dry rot problems and thereafter lay empty.

In 2009 a deal to convert the building into offices and a childcare centre fell through.

A council spokesman said locals would be consulted as to what will happened to the statues.

He added: "Efforts are being made to remove and protect features, wherever it is safe to do so."


http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/new...ould-be-sold-off-111414n.19780174
DavidMcD316

Never knew that about Townhead library statues. Another building left to rot.
Stevie

found an advert for one of the statues from the old townhead library.



Scottish red sandstone statue niche with life sized allegorical figure representing "Knowledge".
From the Townhead Library, the last library to be built with Andrew Carnegie's 1901 grant to
the city of Glasgow, and marked the end of an amazing 3-year expansion to the city's library system.
It was built to an Italian themed design, with a pedimented north bay which had a bush motif
placed in the stonework. There was an upper balustrade with two statues placed in niches along the
line of the parapet. The architect, John Fairweather, was later to specialise in cinemas and theatres.
The library was officially opened on 4th July, 1907 by Sir James Fleming.
After lying in a state of neglect and dereliction in the shadow of the M8 motorway for many years,
Townhead Library was finally demolished in 1998. 9' 8" Tall


Quantity Available: 1

Item Weight (lbs): 22000

http://www.kimballandbean.com/cat...osCsid=kuc916ln8kh2vd7fi1hakfg9u5
norrie

Does anyone know the where abouts of the 4 Red Sandstone pillars that stood on Rutherglen Rd ,Oatlands
They were removed to alow the building of new houses
Ok the area is not near finished but the council did promise to return them
mrsam

How Sad that all of this is gone.  

Mr Sam
bAzTNM

Guys demolishing it seem to be getting some abuse. Saw an old lady going absolutely crazy at one young guy about it.
katimac

The sites's practically cleared now.  It's sad that so many years of history can be obliterated in a matter of days  
bAzTNM

Was it demolished very early in the morning? Must have been really quick about it.
katimac

Sorry.. I was talking about the town hall at Springburn  
James

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/demolition_of_springburn_halls



James H
Hawick_1987

This makes for some interesting reading!
Jester

The façade of the building  had two Greek goddesses, one holding a railway locomotive in her hands. Above the main door were two friezes, both with 3 word inscriptions.

Does anyone have photos?
cybers

Think Kev might have photos of those ... Pretty sure they were removed for safe keeping as i remember seeing the blank spaces before it was felled. Though hopefully not for architectural salvage for some rich twats garden down south.
Marblez

site post demolition


Springburn Town Hall (site of) by D1gitAl Imagez, on Flickr

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