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James

Supermarket and homes planned for Gorbals site

Supermarket and homes planned for Gorbals site (© Evening Times)



Tesco has applied to build a supermarket plus houses and offices in a South Side
development it says will create 400 jobs.


The shopping giant has teamed up with a new firm called Cathcart Developments
Ltd, to unveil plans for a derelict site on Cathcart Road in the Gorbals in the
shadow of the new M74 extension. The original plan was first reported in the
Evening Times in November but the store group has now submitted a planning
application to Glasgow City Council. Some 200 new homes would be built in the
site and local roads would be improved as part of the plan.

Tesco and Cathcart Developments held two public consultation exhibitions in
the St Francis Centre as well as Govanhill Library. And while plans to develop a
giant ‘Tesco town’ in the West end were met with local anger, bosses say ‘Gorbalites’
think this development will be a “welcome boost” for the area.

Paul Smith, director of Cathcart Developments Ltd, said: “Our plan for this site
will deliver a number of local benefits. It is one of the first significant investment
proposals adjacent to the new M74 and will mark the final regeneration lynchpin
for the Gorbals. Locals have been enthusiastic about our plans and welcomed a
mixed use scheme – particularly one that will bring investment into improvements
on the local road network.”

Tony McElroy, corporate affairs manager for Tesco, said: “The support we have
received for the proposals to-date has been overwhelming. From listening to the
local community it is clear that our plans would be a welcome boost to the area.
I am pleased that the benefits – such as job creation and more choice locally – have
been recognised. Our proposals for a new store on Cathcart Road will create
hundreds of local job opportunities.”

The site was once home to a giant cash and carry but has been vacant for around
15 years. It was the subject of a planning bid in 2007 by millionaire city businessman
Willie Haughey, though his proposal to build houses, offices and a hotel was
rejected.

Green Councillor for Southside Central Danny Alderslow has mixed views on the
planned new development. He said: “This is going to generate more traffic. The
M74 is going to take traffic off the surrounding roads and this is going against
that. For the residents, the reason they want it is they are dissatisfied with the
service they get in Crown Street, because of anti-social behaviour. It’s a hard choice.
It will bring jobs to the area.”



James H
Stuball

Another Tesco.... I was just thinking there wasn't enough.

They even opened an express unit at Paisley Road toll... it's a mostly industrial area!
womble

might help bring the price of the weekly provisions down as the local co-field charges a small fortune for a weekly shop and I wouldn't like to survive on the local shops prices. Also it might give the area some much needed jobs.
sputnik

womble,you are spot on mate about the prices in the co/field they always seem to be about 20 per cent higher than the other supermarkets.watched the peoples supermarket on tv on sunday and will be interested to see how that progresses.
norrie

Thats a new one on me
A new Tesco could well finish off the Crown st shopping but do all the locals use it?
I have seen former tenants of Norfolk Ct, in Rutherglens shopping area, Asda Toryglen and Tesco Farme Cross
This land has been vacant for years, why not get houses built on it , Tesco too
Cole

Dixon's Blazes\former Castle cash & carry site

So in the past few days the JCB's and alike have been working away clearing the mounds of dirt from this site.

At first it was only round at the side entrance to the site round the back of city refrigeration across from the cemetery and I thought city refrigeration were expanding their car park or something. Though I was wrong and as you can see in the pic above they have cleared all the mounds of rubble that sat on the site for years. They look to be leveling it out and plotting spaces on the land. I'll be honest and say I never thought I would see any activity on this site, it's lay empty for so long. I could be wrong (and please correct me if I am) but this could be the proposed site of the new tesco starting to take shape.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/new...co-on-labour-donors-land.18399206
https://publicaccess.glasgow.gov....ocuments&keyVal=LG1GUYEX0FZ00

So we will have almost in a row tesco, the new first bus and then another supermarket on the old first bus site. I can't complain though I am happy that this land is finally being used for something but someone will be making a fortune out of this land. I'll also need to do an early morning fence jump and see if I can get some pictures of the graffiti wall before it's pulled down.
ScotWilder

Hi folks,

As a Gorbals resident for several years I've got mixed feelings on this one.

Agreed the local co-op isn't the best and the area does have it's problems but I definitely lean towards not needing another massive supermarket, the local councillor stating that local 'trouble' puts people off going to the co is frankly insulting to the residents of the Gorbals, yes there are bad elements but there are bad elements in most areas, they are simply more visible because of the local pharmacy methadone program and a local supermarket always works as a natural social gathering point.

The local cafe and local butchers, both of which I use will definitely suffer, whether this will cause the co-op to up their game or close remains to be seen but currently I walk to the co to get my shopping with my two toddlers, can't see me doing that over to Tesco's given the level of traffic that will happen.

Agreed employment will help with local economy but not as much as you'd think as they will likely get thousands of applications at least from across the city as well as bringing in their own experienced staff so it won't make as big a difference as you might think.

As I say, site desperately needed redeveloping but a massive supermarket that will likely cause local businesses to close and increase the pollution in and around the Gorbals, can't say I'm going to be giving it a big thumbs up given there are plenty of supermarkets within less than 10 minutes drive.

On a final note for thought, the Gorbals is already used VERY regularly as a through way for drivers who won't wait for the lights so they enter/exit through Caledonia Road/Ballater Street, this is only going to make this worse.

These potential impacts and others are only going to likely hasten my departure as a local resident, sad to say but true.  

I will likely use it, as I say mixed feelings, but overall I can't see it being a positive thing for the local residents as that's not why it's there, it's there to pull folks from the new motorway link, hence why there's another one going in as per the original article.
sputnik

the co wont up their game,they live in the past thinking that the loyal customer base will be there forever.the whole co op system is a shambles these days from banking to retail.tesco will crush them ,especially on food prices and choice.not a fan of tesco but they know the game and how to play it.the prices the co charge are a scandal.
ScotWilder

Unfortunately you're  likely to be 100% right, you've only got to look at places like Inverness to see how much damage big supermarkets can do to the local environment, amenities and overall local feel to a place.

Kirkcaldy is another example, it's now almost ringed by big supermarkets and that's where everyone shops for food and the high street has turned into cafe and pound shop central.

Sad to say but unless a 'local' supermarket chain gets their head in the game this is the way things will stay will massive supermarkets where they can get them and small 'metro' shops where they can't.

If anything that would have been my preference if there had been that choice, co out of the Gorbals and a 'local' Tesco/Sainsburys in it's place but wishes are exactly that in the real world  
Cole

ScotWilder I live in the Gorbals too and I have used that co op for years and never once have I had any bother. Clearly someone jumping to the conclusion that it's trouble without knowing hee haw about the area and I agree insulting to local people.

I do agree with you that a tesco will kill local buisness and that's a shame for the butcher and alike. For the co op I can't say I'll be sorry to see that go, they have had a bit of a monopoly around the area for a long time now. When you look at the planning permission for the new tesco it shows how much that co op makes in profit, how accurate it is I don't know but it's doing well at the moment. Probably because we don't have much alternative.

With that planned tesco site laying empty since the mid 90's when the cash & carry vanished I am just glad to see something being done with it at last. I think it's questionable with who is profiting from it though and I don’t think having another superstore built this close to the planned one going on the old bus depot is a great idea. Though sadly it appears to be the only idea for the site since the mid 90’s.

Also looking at the road layout we probably wont see that massive an increase of traffic on Caledonia Road at the City call centre building end anyway. They are building a road right through the middle of the site. So going from the old end spot of Crown Street and existing next to the industrial estate going round the back of the call centre. The tesco is right next to the motorway side too so it’s easier to get at it from Cathcart Rd.

Overall I have mixed views on this Im glad to see something being done but is a new tesco needed?? I don't think so. New office space needed?? I don't think so and a petrol station could have been built in the largly unused carpark at the co-op if it was needed.
ScotWilder

Good points all Cole, does show a lack of forethought by Glasgow City Council, e.g. could be a park combined with new houses, just something that isn't another supermarket.

But then GCC aren't exactly the best at doing whats in the best interests of their constituents are they?  

Going to the local arranged meeting tonight so going to bring this up and a couple of other things, arranged for 7pm so hopefully get a chance to ask one or two questions.
cybers

Some people will never embrace change, Office space brings investment and employment opportunities, You just have to flick through pages of this forum to see the "Blah Blah Whatever they never invest money in this area" Then when they do its wrong. The East End is not the place I grew up in and remember, it has been decimated and laid to waste, All the people I knew that lived there were moaning when the old houses were torn down in Barrowfield, When the Forge Steelworks Closed When the Railway went, It's always something but now they live in their new houses use the new road infrastructure and shop at the "New Forge2 and never think about it twice. Eventually change happens and it's inevitability is somehow just absorbed. Rose tinting things is all well and good and personally I don't get the whole rising up with pitchforks against Tesco thing. Asda, Sainsburies whatever in the scheme of things its a farce. If they went ahead with the "LOCAL" option it would have been a typical "Passing us over as were not worthy of investment." and in that lies the paradoxical dilema.

You do not treat a festering sore with a plaster you cut it out and start again. We may not agree with the why, what's and if's but change happens. The moaning starts with those too old or lazy to take the opportunity with both hands and roll with it before it's picked up like some sort of community torch going forward. You want to kill the monster then you object at the planning stage. There was not one lampost in that area that never had the details of the consent posted to it. It would be interesting to see who even took the time to find out just how many objections were raised.
Beano

cybers wrote:
Some people will never embrace change, Office space brings investment and employment opportunities, You just have to flick through pages of this forum to see the "Blah Blah Whatever they never invest money in this area" Then when they do its wrong. The East End is not the place I grew up in and remember, it has been decimated and laid to waste, All the people I knew that lived there were moaning when the old houses were torn down in Barrowfield, When the Forge Steelworks Closed When the Railway went, It's always something but now they live in their new houses use the new road infrastructure and shop at the "New Forge2 and never think about it twice. Eventually change happens and it's inevitability is somehow just absorbed. Rose tinting things is all well and good and personally I don't get the whole rising up with pitchforks against Tesco thing. Asda, Sainsburies whatever in the scheme of things its a farce. If they went ahead with the "LOCAL" option it would have been a typical "Passing us over as were not worthy of investment." and in that lies the paradoxical dilema.

You do not treat a festering sore with a plaster you cut it out and start again. We may not agree with the why, what's and if's but change happens. The moaning starts with those too old or lazy to take the opportunity with both hands and roll with it before it's picked up like some sort of community torch going forward. You want to kill the monster then you object at the planning stage. There was not one lampost in that area that never had the details of the consent posted to it. It would be interesting to see who even took the time to find out just how many objections were raised.


Once upon a time life was good, your da was the sole breadwinner and provided the family with a single end or room and kitchen with outside lavy in a tenement sh!t hole. Yer maw stayed at home and trundled down to the local shops and got her messages on tick because we all lived day- to- day, we  didn't know what a fridge was so she put the milk outside on the window sill to keep it cold. Many of the goods she bought had a multi purpose like newspaper one could read it then wipe yer arse with it, a coat can become a blanket and a used fanny pad wrapped with said newspaper could take the place of coal on a cold winters night providing warmth for the whole family. I was a lucky child I had many pets like fleas, lice but no mice because the fukkin rats kept eating them, nowadays I look back with fond memories as I fill my shopping trolley at the supermarket  
cybers

Beano wrote:
cybers wrote:
Some people will never embrace change, Office space brings investment and employment opportunities, You just have to flick through pages of this forum to see the "Blah Blah Whatever they never invest money in this area" Then when they do its wrong. The East End is not the place I grew up in and remember, it has been decimated and laid to waste, All the people I knew that lived there were moaning when the old houses were torn down in Barrowfield, When the Forge Steelworks Closed When the Railway went, It's always something but now they live in their new houses use the new road infrastructure and shop at the "New Forge2 and never think about it twice. Eventually change happens and it's inevitability is somehow just absorbed. Rose tinting things is all well and good and personally I don't get the whole rising up with pitchforks against Tesco thing. Asda, Sainsburies whatever in the scheme of things its a farce. If they went ahead with the "LOCAL" option it would have been a typical "Passing us over as were not worthy of investment." and in that lies the paradoxical dilema.

You do not treat a festering sore with a plaster you cut it out and start again. We may not agree with the why, what's and if's but change happens. The moaning starts with those too old or lazy to take the opportunity with both hands and roll with it before it's picked up like some sort of community torch going forward. You want to kill the monster then you object at the planning stage. There was not one lampost in that area that never had the details of the consent posted to it. It would be interesting to see who even took the time to find out just how many objections were raised.


Once upon a time life was good, your da was the sole breadwinner and provided the family with a single end or room and kitchen with outside lavy in a tenement sh!t hole. Yer maw stayed at home and trundled down to the local shops and got her messages on tick because we all lived day- to- day, we  didn't know what a fridge was so she put the milk outside on the window sill to keep it cold. Many of the goods she bought had a multi purpose like newspaper one could read it then wipe yer arse with it, a coat can become a blanket and a used fanny pad wrapped with said newspaper could take the place of coal on a cold winters night providing warmth for the whole family. I was a lucky child I had many pets like fleas, lice but no mice because the fukkin rats kept eating them, nowadays I look back with fond memories as I fill my shopping trolley at the supermarket  


That's about it in a nutshell. Change happens usually for the better but short sighted visionaries love a good romance.
norrie

Hi Beano, yes I remember all of that, never seen any mice right enough
Were theh good old days really that good? nostalgia is a thing of the past

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