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LowLight

Sorry minx but I hate the Barras. It's a total embarrassment of a place now.

It was exciting when I was young and I would go down and buy some coins (I collected them) and some games for my Amstrad CPC, maybe even some candy floss at the stairs in the market inside but now it's just mingin'. Every time I pass it I think to myself why nothing has been done to drag the shithole into the 21st century.

Bill's Tool Store is handy though.  
wee minx

LowLight wrote:
Sorry minx but I hate the Barras. It's a total embarrassment of a place now.

It was exciting when I was young and I would go down and buy some coins (I collected them) and some games for my Amstrad CPC, maybe even some candy floss at the stairs in the market inside but now it's just mingin'. Every time I pass it I think to myself why nothing has been done to drag the shithole into the 21st century.

Bill's Tool Store is handy though.


No that's cool LL   ...some of it is...some of it is excellent..some of it has pride..some not- I'm sad to say.  
I saw a lot going on the other day, including having an old alcoholic falling on me, some shifty characters, but also lots of decent people too.  
Just from a photography point of view though, it was heaven to me.  Also I wanted to capture it, get as much as I could, it will be gone eventually, and I went there a lot as a kid, some of the old atmosphere is still there.

It still has a feeling of community, even if it includes a lot of fly men ready to rip you off
LowLight

I know what you mean. I'm not saying I want it modernised with Baby Gap or a Starbucks but just try and get some life back into the place by getting rid of the rip off merchants. Make a place people want to come back to and not just pass through.

My Ma n Da were walking through The Barras one day when they hear a fight breaking out behind them. Turns out it was two Santas having a barney and rolling about punching lumps out each other all over their patch.

Couldn't write that stuff.
kev

I remember as a teenager going down every weekend to some stalls that sold war memorabila and 2nd hand commando and marvel comics then listen to the grey haired guy selling jewelry from one of the stalls on the street just down from Bills tool store.Seen to remember his patter was amazing...With you on this Lowlight ..the place is a total sh$thole ...cant imagine I would ever go back
kev

Hey ...Just looked out the window...Merry xmas
LowLight

Probably the same guy I bought them off nearly 20 years ago. I had a half penny from 187? Terrible I can't remember the exact year. Queen Victoria barely visible on it. I was always amazed that someone 100 years before had used that and now I had it in my hand.

Anyway, thanks for that pic.
Fjord

It's easier to take photo's in the Gaza strip than it is down the Barra's.  Well done Minx you've got balls and that first pic was mint BTW
wee minx

Fjord wrote:
It's easier to take photo's in the Gaza strip than it is down the Barra's. Well done Minx you've got balls and that first pic was mint BTW

Thanks Fjord, my balls were well up BTW .  I think it would maybe have been different if I had been a man
Fjord

wee minx wrote:
I think it would maybe have been different if I had been a man


Too right! I tried to discretely capture the surviving architecture around  the Barra's and got rumbled instantly by pensioners outside a boozer  


framing the picture
 


Uh Oh..... I've been clocked = FAIL!!!

LowLight

The FAIL falls on the three fingered "vicky" from the auld yin.    
cybers

Nah pete he was the guy who got shot in the paw...
It wis chinese whispers that turned it into a murder.
   

Brother in law used to rent thon middle bedsit* on Kent St
hated having to go roond ther of an evening for a wee visit.
though all those cop shows had nothing on this place at kicking oot time on a saturday.


*Fecking Sh**hole
Stuball

I miss having my stall in the Barras... it was a good community with the other traders. Just a pity its dwinddled into a shthole
cybers

Totally agree with you there Stu.
I remember years ago working on a stall in the barras watching the stall next door till the guy went for a piss, bookies, tea, whatever.
There was a good camaraderie going on in the place auld characters like the hot peanut man and the candyfloss man were revered and respected.
Now its steal your glass eye and sell yi a few dodgy dvd's to git it back.

I Think the days of the barras as an landmark are over and someone behind the scenes has the site marked for luxury chicken coops....
I might be wrong but all it would take would be a careless flame in the ballroom.
Traders looks like it will fall doon itself... and Pearsons in Moncur St will be right behind it.. If not first.
Stuball

Most of the family live in Canada and want to sell it off... all except the Ballroom since it makes money. The problem is, the majority stakeholder doesnt want to sell
Alex Glass

Great idea for a thread Minxy and that first photo is stunning

I know everyone will have happy memories of the Barras but it really hasn't changed and I think it is age that gives use a different perspective.

I understand that a couple of those involved with the Barras have plans to do something to improve it but not take away any of the real feel of the Barras.

Think Fjord may be right thou and well done for taking the photos Minxy

Don't know if I would have the nerve to get my camera out down there but you never know
wee minx

Great pics Fjord  

Thanks Alex, it was good fun, but yip, I had to be wary. Ones where I really felt I might be intruding, I asked first, got a good one of an artist, will post it later

peee ess...ah meant a REAL artist
John

I have mixed feelings about the barras these days some parts are still ok, but most could do with a shake up
That first pic looks like Aladdin`s cave..how do they know what`s where   Great pics Minxy I don`t know how you get away with it
neilmc

The solitary result of my one and only experience of taking photographs at the Barras:-



This was winter, 1979/80, and was for an article that my buddy Harry Longbaugh was writing for Sounds, on the emergence of the Barrowland Ballroom as a venue for bands.

After taking this photo I was approached by a couple of scary individuals not-so-politely asking what I was up to.

Exit neilmc.....
Alex Glass

I could have appeared in that photo Neil  

During this period I spent almost every weekend down the Barras.

Notice the lettering on the front isn't there
neilmc

I think it had been temporarily removed for renovation.

This might be the only photo of the Ballroom sans lettering.....
Stuball

Did I ever mention that the controls for that sign were behind my stall? I could switch it on and off if I wanted to. I cost a fortune to run.... current hourly rate must be over 10 by now
Sydney Rosewater

Stuball wrote:
Did I ever mention that the controls for that sign were behind my stall? I could switch it on and off if I wanted to. I cost a fortune to run.... current hourly rate must be over 10 by now



It wasny switched on at all on Sunday. Or at least it wasn't when I left the hoose at half 12. I can see it from my window.
wee minx

ooops...I'll get my photos back on up there ^^

I just happend to pass through Paddy's the other day, never realising it was two days before it was going to close.






More here....
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37299168@N07/sets/72157618157222746/
wee minx

cybers

Busted at the Sarry  
John

Who`s Sarry now  
fastnet

Scary wrote:
Who`s Sarry now  



         
Stuball

Ever noticed the street sign above the sarry?
cybers

It's not the only one like that i cant wait for the Shipka Pass one to go up  
Doog Doog

The one & only time I've been in the Sarry was after a gig at the Barrowland.This wee old guy was tossed out,absolutely steaming!
10 mins later,the door opens but no one there ,just a shuffling sound.
Theres the old guy on hands and knees heading for the bar.The barman comes out lifts him and turns him and he shuffles out the door again!
cybers

Had a few good nights and days in the Sarry when i was younger and still drinking.
The cellar is supposed to be haunted   or so the old wags used to claim...
Though it has also been said recently in the times i think it was that Angus has been seen pulling pints  

Noo that would sh!t me right up as he barred me...
sputnik

the sarry is one pub i have nevered ventured into,what it like inside?
cybers

It used to be like a proper pub floorboards, booths and bevvy...
When it was refurbed in the early 90's i was never in it again as they tried to make it a bistro instead of a hostelry...
Though i heard they had to change it back sharpish as it spiralled into financial decline.
I always found it quite welcoming place as long as you entered with an open mind and were not looking for a swanky wine bar...
Good Palce to get charged up at cheap prices before an all out assault on the town.  

The wife's mammy and her boyfriend both worked behind the bar...
Doog Doog

cybers wrote:
It used to be like a proper pub floorboards, booths and bevvy...
When it was refurbed in the early 90's i was never in it again as they tried to make it a bistro instead of a hostelry...
Though i heard they had to change it back sharpish as it spiralled into financial decline.
I always found it quite welcoming place as long as you entered with an open mind and were not looking for a swanky wine bar...
Good Palce to get charged up at cheap prices before an all out assault on the town.

The wife's mammy and her boyfriend both worked behind the bar...


The time I was in there was EL-D in the optics
cybers

I remember getting flaggons of shammy for a party and waking up as if a stick of dynamite had went off between the ears and zanussi were test driving my stomach for a new washing machine model.


Scared to think of how many of them i drank over the years
Doorstop

cybers wrote:

The cellar is supposed to be haunted or so the old wags used to claim...


The cellar in THe Atlantis in Clydebank is said to be haunted too. A couple of the barmaids refused to enter there alone often asking to be accompianied by one of we Stewards.

I wonder how many of the older pubs in Glasgow have more spirits than they pay duty on?
Doog Doog

Doorstop wrote:
cybers wrote:

The cellar is supposed to be haunted or so the old wags used to claim...


The cellar in THe Atlantis in Clydebank is said to be haunted too. A couple of the barmaids refused to enter there alone often asking to be accompianied by one of we Stewards.

I wonder how many of the older pubs in Glasgow have more spirits than they pay duty on?


Don't know but the Bull Inn ,Paisley has a well documented ghost...
James

Traders bid to save Barras (Evening Times)



BARRAS traders have created an action plan to overhaul Scotland's most famous
market in a bid to stop it suffering the same fate as other sites forced to close
down.


Legitimate traders are exasperated with the criminal gangs peddling contraband
and counterfeit goods at the market and are concerned they are not getting
value for money for their rents.

The traders have held discussions with Glasgow City Council and its arm's-length
agency, City Markets LLP, which runs municipal markets on its behalf, with the
authorities said to be receptive to the regeneration proposals.

Among the improvement plans would be more signage directing tourists and
visitors to Glasgow to The Barras and removing the eyesores blighting the area.

The council could even provide surplus land to help enable the changes.

Senior councillors have recently said that transforming rundown sites within
The Barras would improve the area and boost wider improvements, and that
there has been an eagerness to do something with the market for some time.

But one key problem has been the dozen-plus different owners in The Barras,
with most accused of not wanting to spend money on improvements.

The Barras Enterprise Trust, which was set up almost 30 years ago to promote
the market and encourage its regeneration and revitalisation, has endured
a turbulent history, but some traders are now keen to force through their own
agenda.

A source said: "These are people whose hearts are in the right place, legitimate
traders fed up with the hold these criminal gangs have had on The Barras for
the best part of 15 years.

"They've put together their own regeneration plan to overhaul the place as they
are fed up that the regime at the helm of The Barras Enterprise Trust has failed
to bring about the changes they feel entitled to. Some talks have been held with
various parts of the city council, which have gone well seeing as the authority
has been desperate for some time to get people around The Barras to be more
proactive."

The Barras has a long tradition in the East End of Glasgow, with hawkers selling
from handcarts in the early part of the 20th century.



James H
dickyhart

Doog Doog wrote:
Doorstop wrote:
cybers wrote:

The cellar is supposed to be haunted   or so the old wags used to claim...


The cellar in THe Atlantis in Clydebank is said to be haunted too. A couple of the barmaids refused to enter there alone often asking to be accompianied by one of we Stewards.

I wonder how many of the older pubs in Glasgow have more spirits than they pay duty on?


Don't know but the Bull Inn ,Paisley has a well documented ghost...


who ya gonna call, dickyhart ghosthunter!!
calamity

LowLight wrote:
The FAIL falls on the three fingered "vicky" from the auld yin.
my mans father worked as a barman in that pub years ago.  ye didnt know that noo did ye lowlight haha.
Robert Pool

























AlanM

Nice photos, the stall holders don't usually react kindly to cameras for security reasons.








Social Security reasons


Robert Pool

I was a stall holder, that's me in the b/w photo in 1994 and my daughter Hazel (on the left) in the photo of the 2 girls in my greeting card stall
Doog Doog

good ones Robert
AlanM

Robert Pool wrote:
I was a stall holder, that's me in the b/w photo in 1994 and my daughter Hazel (on the left) in the photo of the 2 girls in my greeting card stall


so it is, never recognised you there
Robert Pool

Paddy's Market

































Stuball

Robert Pool wrote:



Hah, there wee Raymond
Robert Pool

it widni be the Barras if there wisni a photo of Raymond
calamity

The Barras

For years Ive always been lead to believe that the Barras.. was named because in the beginning folk would hurl barrows of junk to the site on the Gallowgate/London road to sell it. apparently not from the info on this site and I should really have known as Im always reading about the old Barracks that were on the Gallowgate and the Heilen Jessie Pub..named after  a Highland lassie who became a bit of a well known fixture at the pub and the Barracks.

Glasgow Streets and Places.

Barrack Street.

Opened 1795.

Barras Yett.

Probably not far down Saltmarket, near where it was
intersected by Molendinar Burn. "Barras," said to mean
either the enclosure of wood (barrier) or the enclosure of
the tilting ground. Burgh Records mention (1574) "the
South Port, callet the nether Barras Yett."
Stuball

The Barras as in the market is short for Barrowlands
calamity

The Barracks came first, then the Barras then Barrowland Id think ..another site does say though that as Id previously thought its the name Barras comes from the barrows they brought their things to sell in.. so who knows whats right. found this one as well

ow just on a wee bit further and one of the photos I came here for. The Barras. There can be no more distinctive an image of Glasgow than this sign.
The Barras market originates from the early 1920's when the McIvers bought the ground here where a few old tenement buildings had been demolished. They build stalls and by 1928 the market was roofed and enclosed.
Now everyone knows that the name "Barras" comes from the barrows that were used as stalls?
Maybe not. I have heard other explanations for the name from a few sources. One common one is that it is named after the Eyst Barrasyet which is mentioned in the records for the Burgh of Glasgow. A Barrasyet is a barred gate and one used to be here. Actually seems a more likely explanation so maybe the name isn't such a clear cut thing as it seems.http://glasgowtheday.blogspot.com/2009/07/now-my-lads-charge-them-down-gallowgate.html
Stuball

I think it's a coincidence with the name. The barras is so-called because of the carts the traders brought their products in on
Cal

Does anyone remember a stall...

...in the Barras that sold CDs - it was in one of the big sheds, don't recall which, but it had a huge collection, and it was run by a guy maybe in his late 30s, with kind of longish dark hair and his girlfriend (similar hair IIRC).  He was really into soul and funk type of stuff but was very accommodating about playing CDs for anyone.  

Anyone remember or know anything about those folk and their stall?

While we're on the subject, anyone else have any other favourite stall memories?

My favourite areas were in Pearson's Market (now sadly gone) where there was a bunch of interesting stalls, coins, stamps, postcards, you name it, and another one I don't remember where which had more Commando comics than the grains of sand on Ben Knox's beach.
Stuball

Was it the London Road shed?
nellienaeneck

my sister then 14 worked on a record stall in the barra's owned by a guy called malky 1974. the stall was to the left of the door in kent st as you entered .
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