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Windlaw Boy

The Florida Cinema.

Would anyone know the details of the spooky story that was once associated with this old cinema that was demolished in 1962 ?
cybers

Norrie is probably your guy when it comes to old cinemas ... rumour has it he once talked the legs aff trigger ..... not the horse ... Delboys mate  

Seriously though he knows his flick hooses.
norrie

Hi windlawboy, just checked Bruce Peter's book and there is no mention of a ghost but I too have heard that story but for the life of me cant remember
Having said that, I still go to a shop yards away from the site where the cinema was, I can ask the lady that serves me, she has lived in the area for a long time

Hi cybers, I will take that as a compliment?
Windlaw Boy

norrie wrote:
Hi windlawboy, just checked Bruce Peter's book and there is no mention of a ghost but I too have heard that story but for the life of me cant remember
Having said that, I still go to a shop yards away from the site where the cinema was, I can ask the lady that serves me, she has lived in the area for a long time

Hi cybers, I will take that as a compliment?

Thank you Cybers and Norrie. I look forward to hearing from you should you have any info Norrie. Cheers Mate.
norrie

Hi windlawboy, Ok I asked that lady I mentioned but she had no idea
I was thinking I had seen a board mentioning the Ghost on the side of The Beechwood pub, that stands on the site of the Florida Cinema, checked it out, bingo
The board states that the pub stands on the site of the Florida and then mentions, the cinema was haunted by an usherette, who fell to her death from the balcony

There you go, the imposible I can do right away, miracles take a bit longer
fastnet

Well done cheebus.....
norrie

Hi fastnet, it was nothing
Lobey Dosser

norrie wrote:
Hi fastnet, it was nothing


Hey, Norrie! I know Windlaw Boy isn't even close to challenging your expertise....How old was the usherette? What was her name? Was she married? if so, for how long? Where did she live? Any kids? How long had she worked there before falling off the balcony? Was she wearing one of those snack tray things when she fell? Was there any indication that  booze was involved? Is there any possibility that she was pushed? Any chance it was a suicide? Was her torch functioning properly or did its malfunction contribute to her fall? Did she land on anyone? What did she weigh? Was a proper safety inspection conducted by the authorities after the incident? When was the area last checked for loose carpets etc prior to the incident?

Report back in a few days. Thanks!
sputnik

christ on a bike lobey,this urban glasgow not an episode of new tricks.
cybers

sputnik wrote:
christ on a bike lobey,this urban glasgow not an episode of new tricks.


But it is our old dog  
norrie

Hi lobeydosser, anyone of those scenarios  
No details on the board, pity about that, a date would have enabled my to check the papers in the Mitchell
Lobey Dosser

Sputnik -- Oh ye of little faith! I have the utmost confidence that Norrie will rise to the challenge and not let us all down.

I fully expect that he'll even post photos (possibly colour, but definitely 8 x 10 glossies) of the unfortunate usherette making her rapid descent from the balcony. I don't expect video, as it hadn't been invented at that time, but I'm certain that he'll come up with something totally unexpected to further educate and titillate us.

You really have to learn to trust people....
Marblez

Lobey Dosser wrote:
You really have to learn to trust people....


The only time I trust Norrie is when he says to me "You know, I never thought to take that picture" THEN I know he isn't lying  

He was probably thinking that when he saw the usherette fall and he was unable to catch her !  
Lobey Dosser

Marblez -- I think it's a little presumptious of you to jump to conclusions and start proposing wild theories about Norrie's involvement in the usherette's death. I'm sure he made every attempt to save her life, and was extremely upset when his best efforts came to naught.

Next you'll be expecting us to believe that Norrie was hired as a hitman by her husband, and you have proof of this hidden away somewhere.

I'd like to place it on the record that I have the utmost faith in Norrie's integrity  -- although he's the last one I'd trust anywhere near my stash of fine malt Scotch.
Marblez

Lobey Dosser wrote:
Marblez -- I think it's a little presumptious of you to jump to conclusions and start proposing wild theories about Norrie's involvement in the usherette's death. I'm sure he made every attempt to save her life, and was extremely upset when his best efforts came to naught.

Next you'll be expecting us to believe that Norrie was hired as a hitman by her husband, and you have proof of this hidden away somewhere.


I could not possibly comment Lobey I may have to leave Calton Creek forever ...  

Lobey Dosser wrote:
I'd like to place it on the record that I have the utmost faith in Norrie's integrity  -- although he's the last one I'd trust anywhere near my stash of fine malt Scotch.


And I would have to wholeheartedly agree with you on this point
Lobey Dosser

Marblez said:[/i] "I could not possibly comment Lobey I may have to leave Calton Creek forever ... "[/i]

Marblez, at this point I can only urge you not to run away and hide, but to make the proof public. If you leave Calton Creek, you will be outwith my jurisdiction and I can't offer you any further protection.

If Norrie can throw an innocent usherette, who was working two jobs to earn enough money to provide her six fatherless children with their first decent meal in a month, from a cinema balcony, then it's entirely feasible that you could also meet with an unfortunate "accident" outwith the boundaries of Calton Creek. (Although of course I can't 100% guarantee that you WON'T meet with an accident somewhere IN Calton Creek.)

That all depends upon just how vindictive Norrie is, and how far he's prepared to go to hush things up.....
Marblez

Lobey Dosser wrote:

That all depends upon just how vindictive Norrie is, and how far he's prepared to go to hush things up.....


Sheriff he makes Rank Bajin look like Walter the Softie ... even El Fidelo couldn't get me out of town quick enough to escape his wrath ... I shall have to maintain my enforced silence regarding the whole matter ... or I may suffer a similar fate as that poor unfortunate usherette  
sputnik

done a bit of digging on this one lobey.turns out the poor wee usherette wummin drowned in  a large vat of kia ora and norries attempt to save her by throwing her one of those wee wooden spoons that you got with your tub of lyons maid ice cream so she  could paddle to safety was in vain.i have no sympathy for the wummin myself as i am an um bongo man.
Windlaw Boy

norrie wrote:
Hi windlawboy, Ok I asked that lady I mentioned but she had no idea
I was thinking I had seen a board mentioning the Ghost on the side of The Beechwood pub, that stands on the site of the Florida Cinema, checked it out, bingo
The board states that the pub stands on the site of the Florida and then mentions, the cinema was haunted by an usherette, who fell to her death from the balcony

There you go, the imposible I can do right away, miracles take a bit longer

Thanks for your help Norrie.
Lobey Dosser

Am I just naturally suspicious or does anyone else think that Windlaw Boy may just possibly have played a large part in the demise of the unfortunate usherette?

I mean, if "Thanks for your help, Norrie" isn't an obvious reference to her sudden death....

Could it be that Windlaw Boy was formerly married to the poor usherette, and paid "someone" to ensure she fell to her death, in order to cash in on a very large life insurance policy?....I'm just saying.....

And of course Norrie said earlier that he could "do the impossible right away, but miracles take a little longer"......
sputnik

im phoning ucos right now.
Marblez

Lobey Dosser wrote:
Am I just naturally suspicious or does anyone else think that Windlaw Boy may just possibly have played a large part in the demise of the unfortunate usherette?

I mean, if "Thanks for your help, Norrie" isn't an obvious reference to her sudden death....

Could it be that Windlaw Boy was formerly married to the poor usherette, and paid "someone" to ensure she fell to her death, in order to cash in on a very large life insurance policy?....I'm just saying.....

And of course Norrie said earlier that he could "do the impossible right away, but miracles take a little longer"......


... Think you'll have to look into this matter further Sheriff
Lobey Dosser

Sputnik - I dunno if UCOS will be of any help at all......I mean all of their cases take place on the telly, and this murder happened in a cinema....
Marblez

Lobey Dosser wrote:
Sputnik - I dunno if UCOS will be of any help at all......I mean all of their cases take place on the telly, and this murder happened in a cinema....


Well they are supposedly based within the Met but they had an episode in Glasgow last year
Lobey Dosser

....But did the episode in Glasgow take place in a cinema?.....I think not!
Marblez

I think we can forget UCOS entirely as at that time the vast majority of the population used cinemas as their main choice of entertainment

There is also the further possibility that if the said usherette was indeed married to Windlaw Boy, she may also have harboured secret desires for Norrie (he may have had a bigger lens and lens envy can be an ugly thing). So unable to choose between the two men she threw herself over the balcony in her desperation to escape from her awful predicament
Lobey Dosser

...But ask yourself Marblez, "Why would she take out a large insurance policy on her own life before throwing herself over the balcony?"

As you know, suicide would render the insurance policy null and void.....
Marblez

Lobey Dosser wrote:
...But ask yourself Marblez, "Why would she take out a large insurance policy on her own life before throwing herself over the balcony?"

As you know, suicide would render the insurance policy null and void.....


She may have taken the policy out with the intention of faking her own death and when her husband cashed in said policy she would meet him somewhere abroad to start a new life together.
However, unbeknownst to her husband she knew that if she went through with the plan, she would never see Norrie again.

One night while working at the cinema selling her ice cream and orange juice, she was so overcome with anguish at having to make such a massive decision she threw herself off the balcony ...
Lobey Dosser

Nah, Marblez! I think we may be bordering on the ridiculous with a scenario like that.....

If we stick strictly to the obvious known facts -- and if you take Norrie out somewhere and fill him full of 12-yr-old malt Scotch, I'm sure we'll have no problem wringing a confession out of him! So I'd urge you to pursue that line of enquiry....
Marblez

Lobey Dosser wrote:
Nah, Marblez! I think we may be bordering on the ridiculous with a scenario like that.....

If we stick strictly to the obvious known facts -- and if you take Norrie out somewhere and fill him full of 12-yr-old malt Scotch, I'm sure we'll have no problem wringing a confession out of him! So I'd urge you to pursue that line of enquiry....


Okay right no bother .... hey wait a minute, haud the bus,  I though YOU were the Sheriff    
Lobey Dosser

That's correct! And that's also why I can't leave Calton Creek unprotected to go imbibing in the demon rum (or demon malt Scotch in this case).

Which is why I've sworn you in as my High Heid Yin Special Agent Supreme Chief Deputy 007.

Sputnik will be your backup, and I've already advised Norrie that you'll be getting in touch with him to subject him to vast quantities of malt Scotch. He was a bit reluctant at first, but when I told him he didn't have to buy even one round, he very reluctantly agreed to participate.

Just pay for all the booze and submit the bill to Calton Creek Town Council for reimbursement. OK?
Marblez

Lobey Dosser wrote:
I've already advised Norrie that you'll be  subjecting him to vast quantities of malt Scotch. He was a bit reluctant at first, but when I told him he didn't have to buy even one round, he very reluctantly agreed to participate.

Just pay for all the booze and submit the bill to Calton Creek Town Council for reimbursement. OK?


Right, I shall procure all I need from a wee place I know in Springburn, they have vast supplies of a little number from Islay.  I warn you it may be a hefty bill to get his confession ..... he's a tough coconut to milk
Lobey Dosser

Just remember that money's no object! And El Fideldo & I have cracked tougher coconuts than this....Spare no effort to get him to talk!
sputnik

do we know what movie was being shown at the time?it may have a part to play in all this.last tango in the barras.
cybers

If she fell aff the balcony then surely the film would have been
"The Lady Vanishes"
norrie

Too much levity, this will never do, I thought this was a serious site

Lobeydosser, your malts safe from me, your 1,000s of mile away,I will just have to drink my own stash
Finding out what happened to this usherette without a date is like looking for a needle in a hay stack, remember this cinema opened in 1931 and was closed and demolished in 1957, I was 12 too young to have made my way from the North West end of Glasgow to the South Side to do any of the things that have been suggested
However your all welcome to ply me with good Islay Malts 35mil of course
Marblez

Well Sheriff the 18year old finally did the trick ... he sang like a linty and even posted his own confession ....

Let's face it people the only thing Norrie is capable of murdering is a good photo and his only crime ... subjecting us all to these photos on UG

BTW Norrie could you no have caught the no7 tram
norrie

Hi Marblez, from my limited knowledge of Aitkenhead rd, I am thinking the only transport that ran along it was a trolley bus?? I do stand to be corrected
The rest of your remarks, I shall treat with contempt and spit the dummy
Lobey Dosser

Marblez -- I urge you to proceed with the utmost caution.... Norrie's lining you up to be his next victim. DON'T accept any invitations from him to go hillwalking anywhere there's cliffs (or high balconies!) and be especially careful if he offers to buy the booze!

P.S. My personal in-depth investigation has revealed that a gangster film was being shown on the evening of the usherette's untimely end. .......It was called "The Lady Takes The Fall".
norrie

Well that lets me off, it was X film, I was 12
Lobey Dosser

Possibly....But the wumman in the newsagent's shop across the road has always claimed that she saw a dwarf with a camera standing beside the usherette, just before she heard a scream....
Marblez

Lobey Dosser wrote:
Marblez -- I urge you to proceed with the utmost caution.... Norrie's lining you up to be his next victim. DON'T accept any invitations from him to go hillwalking anywhere there's cliffs (or high balconies!) and be especially careful if he offers to buy the booze!


Sheriff I cannae even get Norrie to let me up on the roof of Norfolk Court so no much chance of anything like that ever happening .... plus I am about a foot bigger than him so if I AM his next intended victim he might have bitten off more than he can chew !

BTW The trams ran along Mennock Road and the lower half of Castlemilk Road so it would only be a short walk from there Norrie ...

EDIT - The BUSES ran along Mennock Road the trams only ran as far as Hampden
Lobey Dosser

Marblez -- Ever heard that the bigger they are, the harder they fall?......

"Lookit that topless female sunbathing down there!"
"Where?" (Peering over roof edge just before feeling wee shove in the back.)

Incidentally, I know for a stone-cold fact that Norrie was riding around on some very expensive racing bicycles shortly after the usherette was murdered......and he wouldn't even gie his friends a wee shot!

I don't know about his latest fascination with buses....Maybe he's planning on throwing you under one (after relieving you of your kerry oot of assorted malt Scotches, of course.)
Marblez

Lobey Dosser wrote:
Marblez -- Ever heard that the bigger they are, the harder they fall?......

"Lookit that topless female sunbathing down there!"
"Where?" (Peering over roof edge just before feeling wee shove in the back.)

Incidentally, I know for a stone-cold fact that Norrie was riding around on some very expensive racing bicycles shortly after the usherette was murdered......and he wouldn't even gie his friends a wee shot!

I don't know about his latest fascination with buses....Maybe he's planning on throwing you under one (after relieving you of your kerry oot of assorted malt Scotches, of course.)


One - aye but the bigger they are the harder they fight back

Two - Norrie woudlnae spot o topless female from that height ... he's blun as a bat these days, and anyways I would notice her first

Three - He's still a selfish (auld) git

Four - It has stemmed from the fact that a few years ago he got his free bus pass and since there is a bus stop at the foot of his street it is now his preferred mode of transport around Glasgow

Five - With my current financial situation I'm lucky to be able to afford a bottle of blended whisky never mind a good malt

Six - IF I was ever to be the victim of any of Norrie's plans, ah woudlnae be typing this  
Lobey Dosser

One - aye but the bigger they are the harder they fight back

Hard to fight back when plunging to your death, though (See: usherette.)

Two - Norrie woudlnae spot o topless female from that height ... he's blun as a bat these days, and anyways I would notice her first

But there wouldn't be a topless female. It'd all be part of his very cunning plan!

Three - He's still a selfish (auld) git

I dunno. I actually heard that he stood a round in a pub, once. I don't have any proof, though

Four - It has stemmed from the fact that a few years ago he got his free bus pass and since there is a bus stop at the foot of his street it is now his preferred mode of transport around Glasgow

He's probably looking for grannies to push aff. Once these killers get a taste for blood.....

Five - With my current financial situation I'm lucky to be able to afford a bottle of blended whisky never mind a good malt

Stop pleading poverty! I told you, your paycheque's in the mail.


Six - IF I was ever to be the victim of any of Norrie's plans, ah woudlnae be typing this  [/quote]

[i]Just watch your back is all I'm saying. When he gets a few malt Scotches into him......
[/i]
Marblez

Lobey Dosser wrote:
Marblez wrote:
One - aye but the bigger they are the harder they fight back

Hard to fight back when plunging to your death, though (See: usherette.)


But I wouldnae BE plunging to my death, I would sidestep at the last minute and watch as he fell to his ...

Lobey Dosser wrote:
Marblez wrote:
Two - Norrie woudlnae spot o topless female from that height ... he's blun as a bat these days, and anyways I would notice her first

But there wouldn't be a topless female. It'd all be part of his very cunning plan!


The only person who has cunning plans is Baldrick ... and we all know how successful they are

Lobey Dosser wrote:
Marblez wrote:
Three - He's still a selfish (auld) git

I dunno. I actually heard that he stood a round in a pub, once. I don't have any proof, though


That was a long time ago .. and it was just a single drink for the woman who eventually married him (sorry Mrs Norrie)

Lobey Dosser wrote:
Marblez wrote:
Four - It has stemmed from the fact that a few years ago he got his free bus pass and since there is a bus stop at the foot of his street it is now his preferred mode of transport around Glasgow

He's probably looking for grannies to push aff. Once these killers get a taste for blood.....


He's no allowed out alone ... he's married

Lobey Dosser wrote:
Marblez wrote:
Five - With my current financial situation I'm lucky to be able to afford a bottle of blended whisky never mind a good malt
Stop pleading poverty! I told you, your paycheque's in the mail.


Aye but knowing the state of Royal Mail I'll be lucky to get it before Xmas

Lobey Dosser wrote:
Marblez wrote:
Six - IF I was ever to be the victim of any of Norrie's plans, ah woudlnae be typing this  


Just watch your back is all I'm saying. When he gets a few malt Scotches into him......


He cannae stand up after two never mind a few ... and even then he has to use his zimmer
TT

Apparently, the Florida isnae the only place of entertainment in Scotland wi  a resident ghost.


Wikipedia has this tae say aboot the Pavilion:

The Pavilion Theatre is now the only privately run theatre in Scotland and one of a few unsubsidised independent theatres left in Britain outside London. The theatre mainly runs populist productions and pantomimes, as well as comedians and touring bands on the 'nostalgia' circuit. . . . . The theatre is reputed to be haunted by a girl who 'bounced to death' in the Stalls area of the auditorium. Most frequent sightings of Bouncer are reported during catchy songs. . . . . . . .


It disnae actually say whit "bounced to death" means.  Dis it mean she fell frae the balcony as well,  an "bounced to death" in the Stalls?  Or dis it possibly mean she wis daein topless go-go dancin in the Stalls an got whacked in the coupon by an outsize mammary gland?

There is an entire website dedicated tae Scottish Ghosts at:

http://scottishghosts.webs.com/theatreghosts.htm
Gina

Maybe she was hit on the heid by a space hopper.

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