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Stuball

Tradeston to Govan - Discussion Thread

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Alex Glass

Yet more great photos from our man Streapedair.

The depth of this collection is phenomenal and we are so luck to be able to see them her first and fro every.

Great work and thanks for allowing us to share in your wonderful collection.
cybers

any chance we can have a link back to the photo's in the first post of the discussion thread.  
Sometimes i leave my pooter on the forum and some bugger in this hoose comes along and closes the window and i lose all new posts.
Off to locate them noo  
James

cybers wrote:
any chance we can have a link back to the photo's in the first post of the discussion thread.  

Aye, that's a good idea.  

Great pics once again Streapedair.  



James H
cybers

Thanks James  

Well after having a mosey on thru them i am once again struck by the wonderous views recorded.
Well done that man for giving us an insight to parts of the city we were too wee to travel to ourselves.
I don't know if it was all down to bad timing or what but it gives a sombre reflection on the city at a time when it was obviously changing.
Most of the glasswork is smashed tenements empty though one photo in particular caught my attention.
All around them it looks like the day after the apocalypse but there is 2 weans ice lollies and a fackin POODLE   ...

as they say
"wha's Like Us"
John

Once again, thanks for the trip down memory lane Streap  
John



Parlane`s at the corner used to do a pick-up for washing overalls for the surrounding industries ie: british steel etc, next door at butchers was where we got our rolls, next bar one is where yours truly got his haircut as a laddie and as an incentive you got a lollipop if you were good   further up was a newsagents and the two-tone shop on the corner was a bookies T.V. Shields i think it was called, in the middle of that second block was the Co-op (remember ma stamps my mum would say) and the end of the second block was a pub (The Killearn) I think.
The other side of the road was mostly demolished at that time as you can see by the shadows, the half shadow was a bookies, then a gap then tenements then a pub on its own then a large expanse of spare ground all the way to Houston St. It seems like yesterday I done all that, so thanks for the memories Streapadair
norrie

Hi streapadair, another great collection of buildings that are all gone
Thanks for sharing them with us
I hope you still have more to surprise us with
Bye for now, norrie
streapadair

Thanks for the feedback, guys, I'm having to squeeze my head through the door sideyways now.

Great detail, Scary, love reading that sort of thing.

Cybers, aye, that wee poodle was priceless, more Grosvenor Square than Govan.
wee minx

streapadair wrote:
Carmichael St at Govan Rd. A very Thomson-esque tenement, possibly by the Master himself. Part of Copland Rd School can be seen.   February 1974



I lived in Carmichael Street from 1964 till 1974/5, and I have been waiting to see photos of it and surrounding streets for a long time.  The pic above as I remember, the tenements were knocked down after the bad storms and instead of cutting through the closes to get to school, we could just walk across the spare ground :)

streapadair wrote:
Vicarfield St and Carmichael St, The Wid-dow’s, with its apparently detached lounge bar.   July 1975


Fantastic, that pub was just across the road from us, my dad drank there as his local and my mum used to go into the lounge bit, I used to stand out there waiting for pocket money from him lol

streapadair wrote:
Govan Rd and Copland Rd, St Columba's UF Church (James Thomson, 1870)    June 1975


That was one amazing building, I never remember it being occupied all the time I was there.  The number 4 bus stop was right there , the bus I got to secondary school in Drumoyne, Govan High, and many a time in the rain, the massive slugs that used to slither out that place was bloody scary. There was a paper shop next to it where I would get sweets, but don't remember the name.

streapadair wrote:
Govan Rd, north side at Stag St. Another Rangers footballer’s pub.   July 1975


Along there beside Stag Stret was a book shop where you could take your old comics in and get a bunch of newer ones..a kind of swap, I don't remember if I had to pay, but if i did it must have been peanuts.

streapadair wrote:
Stag St, west side.   February 1974


Ahh..Stag Street, every Saturday without fail off down there , on the ferry for free and over to the Art Galleries, that could well be me, my sister and young brother there , what fantastic memories.. thank you so much Streapadair
cybers

I think it's the memories that make this thread almost every bit as interesting as the original photo thread.
The Comic Swap shops is something for the things you don't see in Glasgow anymore thread.
I remember every thursday going to the one that used to be beside the Belgrove Hotel and swap The Victor, Action, Commando, etc give it back pay 2p and get a nice fresh read.
Fjord

cybers wrote:
I think it's the memories that make this thread almost every bit as interesting as the original photo thread


Very true. Wee Minx's post was like a very young Molly Weir narrative  
cybers

Fjord wrote:
cybers wrote:
I think it's the memories that make this thread almost every bit as interesting as the original photo thread


Very true. Wee Minx's post was like a very young Molly Weir narrative  


Well remember it was you that said that....
I make no reference to Hazel McWitch whatsoever... In fact it never crossed my mind.
streapadair

You're very welcome, Minxy. Great stuff. I'd gathered that you hailed from this part of the world, and had hoped it would stir some memories for you.
John



Thomson`s Televison and Piano dealer, thats where we got our first telly, it was massive in a big cabinet with doors, I remember going there weekly with my mum to make payments for the telly and a repair/maintenance scheme.
The pub at the corner of Toll Lane was called The Jeannie or Jeannie Deans and you can just see a part of the old Tolbooth on extreme left of the pic. I have a memory of bus drivers and conductors waiting in there to change over shifts, pity there`s not more of it to see. Directly across from Thomson`s were public toilets.
Stuball

There is a plaque embedded in the pavement at the traffic lights outside the grand old opry that mention the tool booth... I'll nip along and get a picture this week
John

Good man Stu, now I think of it i`m sure it was Green and Cream in colour.
streapadair

Shot of the booth on VM
http://www.mitchelllibrary.org/vi...p?i=16058&r=2&t=4&x=1

I've a vague memory of it myself. The no.12 tram terminated at Admiral St (we used to use it when going to see my granny in Craigton) and the crew would often amble across to the booth for a break, or to change shifts.
Stuball

OK, so the plaque is just about a pole and not the actual toll booth building, but here they are





cybers

So does it actually still exist then as the plaque leaves me a little confused  
John

Cheers for that Stu   I`ve seen that post, but never noticed the plaque.

Cybers, the post was relocated to across the road according to the plaque.
Doog Doog

Correct me if I'm wrong,but where the resturant is,I remember there being a shop called Crazy Cuts.
wee minx

Doog Doog wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong,but where the resturant is,I remember there being a shop called Crazy Cuts.


I remember it being this Doog Doog...


Image from http://govan.eveningtimes.co.uk/area/paisley-road-toll-1960s.html
Doog Doog

Aye, I remember it being Burton's too,but thought that was more the mid 70's.
I remember going to crazy cuts with ma maw,needed something for school and had trouble getting my size.The shop front was yellow with black lettering and it was at the end of a block.
Robert Scott

Tradeston to Govan

Hi there , I'm new to this site. Born in Paterson Street in 1952, some fantastic memories seeing that whole area the way it used to be. Keep it going.
ian1331

Tradeston to Govan

Hi everyone,
New to the site, lived in Tradeston in the 50's (Paterson street) moved to Castlemilk, then back to Tradeston (Centre street) Emigrated to Toronto,
love the entire site and it's not with rose coloured glasses, certainly a lot of Glasgow was past it's "Sell by date" but did it deserve the "Carpet Bombing" it recieved? Keep up the GREAT work.
Doog Doog

Does anyone know what street the Douglas Mission stands on,if it still exists?
Want to grab some pics as there is some old family association with the building.
I can remember that it used to be signposted on the Paisley Road West,but not exactly sure where that was.
ian1331

cooperative building at wallace street and laidlaw street

streapadair wrote:
The Wallace St frontage from Laidlaw St.   December 1975



When you look at the craftsmanship of the stonemasons (the inside was beautiful as well) someone should have been shot for allowing that wonderful building to be demolished,for years it was used as a car park
shameful
Ian1331
John

Re: Tradeston to Govan

Robert Scott wrote:
Hi there , I'm new to this site. Born in Paterson Street in 1952, some fantastic memories seeing that whole area the way it used to be. Keep it going.


Hi Robert, a belated welcome to UG, I just saw your post, hope you have some info and memories from Tradeston to post.
gallowgategal

Re: Tradeston to Govan

Robert Scott wrote:
Hi there , I'm new to this site. Born in Paterson Street in 1952, some fantastic memories seeing that whole area the way it used to be. Keep it going.


ian1331 wrote:
Hi everyone,
New to the site, lived in Tradeston in the 50's (Paterson street) moved to Castlemilk, then back to Tradeston (Centre street) Emigrated to Toronto,
love the entire site and it's not with rose coloured glasses, certainly a lot of Glasgow was past it's "Sell by date" but did it deserve the "Carpet Bombing" it recieved? Keep up the GREAT work.


Welcome to both of you, do you know each other  
ian1331

gallowgategal

Welcome to both of you, do you know each other  [/quote]

Hi Gallowgategal,
Yes we're brothers,I'm the oldest born in 1948 in ROTTENROW try living that one down,left glasgow in 1969 and even then the damage was disgraceful,look at pictures of the west end and see what a bit of imagination could have achieved
Ian1331
cybers

Alas many a famous Glesga wean born under the auspices of having ROTTENROW on the birth certificate.
Some famous and some infamous  

No more though another piece of archetechtural history consigned to photographs only


Welcome To Urban Glasgow both of you  
norrie

Welcome to Urbanglasgow to anybody I missed
I hope you have plenty of old Photos, we lap them up
Bye for now,norrie
stillucan

Belated thanks to Streap.      but I'm new here. This is the first time I've seen old Plantation Street in a photo even it was just the church. Anymore photos anyone? I lived there age 1-7 1947/53. I think I remember there was a cop shop in Plantation Street. Other memories I went to nearby Salvation Army sunday school - don't recall the street. My first school Lorne Street Primary. Also remember my father telling Willie Woodburn owned a newsagents on Paisley Road West. Anybody throw any light on that?

I wrote wee bit aboot oor Plantation single end (without rose tinted specs)
in Glasgow From the Past. I'm luvn this forum.    
the researcher

angel building/thomson pianos building on govan road

just been looking at the photos the photo of the angel building remember this used to be a tv rental shop possibly in the seventies? also remember there used to be a blue dr who type police box there as well shame to see its been taken away these things are icons and should be give a listed status
my granny and granpa(mums mum and dad) used to live above the thomsons piano shop then they moved to 23 shields road one stair up i think then when my granny started getting arthritis they moved down to number 17 on the ground floor left and lived there for the rest of their days but my granny moved in with my uncle and auntie(grannies son) shortly after my granpa died in 76 and the house was closed up my granny died in 78 and my mums brother died in 2003 and my auntie in 2007 and sadly my mum in 2009 but at least i have my memories of glasgow and chatting with people on this forum
although i was born in fife and class myself as a fifer part of me is still glaswegian and i love the comedy of billy connoly and glasgow comedians and comedy series set in glasgow such as still game and chewing the fat and city lights
Doog Doog

Researcher.
I think the TV rental shop may have been Granada.
norrie

Hi The Researcher, welcome to the board
There are loads of photos on this board for your perusal
You are right about the Flying Scot
the researcher

the flying scot

norrie wrote:
Hi The Researcher, welcome to the board
There are loads of photos on this board for your perusal
You are right about the Flying Scot

hi
yes you are right about the flying scot ive got two a 57 fitted with campag mechs and set up for touring and a 59 flying scot which is totally original
im a member of the veteran cycle club and we collect classic bicycles and a lot of us have scots
i only got the 57 scot last year its a 24 inch frame and believe not many of this size were made
both of them are continental models with rack on the back to support the saddlebag.
i used the scot on quite a number of runs last year and its a beautiful bike to ride the rolls royce of bicycles i call them
the researcher

memories of watt street

John wrote:


Parlane`s at the corner used to do a pick-up for washing overalls for the surrounding industries ie: british steel etc, next door at butchers was where we got our rolls, next bar one is where yours truly got his haircut as a laddie and as an incentive you got a lollipop if you were good   further up was a newsagents and the two-tone shop on the corner was a bookies T.V. Shields i think it was called, in the middle of that second block was the Co-op (remember ma stamps my mum would say) and the end of the second block was a pub (The Killearn) I think.
The other side of the road was mostly demolished at that time as you can see by the shadows, the half shadow was a bookies, then a gap then tenements then a pub on its own then a large expanse of spare ground all the way to Houston St. It seems like yesterday I done all that, so thanks for the memories Streapadair

my granny stayed on shields road and remember the shops on wallace grove from memory there was parlanes then a man who made tablet he had six gas cookers on the go and used to pour the tablet into big metal trays then the butchers then a newsagents though in the photo it looks as if it was closed when the photo was taken then the barbers the barber was a local councilor but cant recall his name my granpa used to get his haircut there next up was a fish and chip shop that was always closed i never saw it open then on the corner was a grocers on the other corner as you say was tv shields the bookies there was a scruffy dog that used to sit outside it then next up was granny clarks then the co-op which were closed by then i think then martins the newsagents
on the other side was the open space i can vaguely recall that there was a pawn brokers on the corner before the buildings were demilished as remember the three brass balls, cant remember the name of the pub though then vals dairy i never knew what his name was val someone i suppose he sold the shop and moved to ayr i think, my granpa used to get the messages there every day and used to tell val when i was coming to stay for the week during the summer or easter holidays with my mum
val always used to call me roger the dodger i used to go for the messages every morning when i stayed at my grannies for a week.
there was a family called millar who lived in the tennement between the bookies and the school and they were in the paper for not washing the close think this was the late sixties or early seventies it may have also been on stv news as well.
when were the buildings that created the open space demolished i think tenements around there were damaged during the storms in 1967 so it might have been then
norrie

Hi The Researcher do you remember Albert Sharp, worked in Ratterys
My father bought a Scot from him, 1959 ? had one of the  first Campags in Glasgow on it, I still have it in my garage
I had a second hand Scot, chrome frame, goodness knows how old it was , I was probably 14, it had no gears and my father painted it Green, I was pleased as punch to have a Scot
When I went to work he bought me a brand new Claud Butler, campag gears, loved that bike, went on to Freddie Grubb, Mercian, Puegot and now have a Dawes Mountain bike, have not swung a leg over it in years and even then I used it to get to work, best thing because of the state of the roads.

In between geting the Claiud Butler I had the use of my fathers Scot as a and when I wanted, he sold it after a while
I was a member of Lomond Roads and Suburban as teenager
Bye for now, norrie
the researcher

flying scots again

norrie wrote:
Hi The Researcher do you remember Albert Sharp, worked in Ratterys
My father bought a Scot from him, 1959 ? had one of the  first Campags in Glasgow on it, I still have it in my garage
I had a second hand Scot, chrome frame, goodness knows how old it was , I was probably 14, it had no gears and my father painted it Green, I was pleased as punch to have a Scot
When I went to work he bought me a brand new Claud Butler, campag gears, loved that bike, went on to Freddie Grubb, Mercian, Puegot and now have a Dawes Mountain bike, have not swung a leg over it in years and even then I used it to get to work, best thing because of the state of the roads.

In between geting the Claiud Butler I had the use of my fathers Scot as a and when I wanted, he sold it after a while
I was a member of Lomond Roads and Suburban as teenager
Bye for now, norrie

Hi again
im 52 so diidnt have the pleasure of buying a flying scot in rattrays imagine if you could go back in dr whos tardis to 1959 and bring back a flying scot brand new never ridden and what that would be worh lol
i bought my 57 scot from an ex vcc member and as far as am aware has been in the section for some considerable time being sold on from one member to another
they are beautful bikes though absolute dreams to ride very light and responsive to the touch even with stuff in the carradice saddlebag they can still fly along i use it most days to get shopping or a paper as its quicker than walking and it saves petrol as well
as the advert used to say buy a bates and beat your mates buy a scot and beat the lot
sputnik

norrie, happy to say that the lomond roads cycling club is still on the go.my friend big robert woods used to a regular cyclist with them,youmay know him.only does the golf now.i was at his seventieth party recently.
the researcher

cycling

sputnik wrote:
norrie, happy to say that the lomond roads cycling club is still on the go.my friend big robert woods used to a regular cyclist with them,youmay know him.only does the golf now.i was at his seventieth party recently.

is the lomond roads cycle club a racing club or one that just goes for cycle runs?
im a member of the veteran cycle club and we collect classic bicycles such as scots worrals andy mcneils jg robertsons and also hetchins raleighs et al
we being the scotland section have runs all over scotland im going to one tomorrow at newton grange mining museum we are doing a cycle run in the morning and having lunch when we get back should be a good day if the weather stays fine
im using the 57 scot tomorrow on the run
norrie

Hi The researcher , Lomond Roads did touring and racing when I joined it.

Hi sputnik, cant say I reacall the name but I wasnt in too long
I do remember Archie Berry and Charlie Mcgowan
the researcher

flying scot

HI
Did a run with the VCC today we met at Newtongrange mining museum and did a circular route of 18 miles the weather was cold but at least it wasnt raining
there was a good turn out today there were 18 of us on the run including a guest of a member who seems to be enthusiastic about joining
route was mostly on back roads and included the disuded railway which is now a cycle track near pennicuik some of us got split from the main group due to someone having a puncture but we managed to find our way back where we had lunch at the museum with the others
used the 57 scot and it ran like a dream as it always does
the researcher

seeking a photo i found on here but now cant find it

i found a photo on here showing flecks bar and a closed down bakery beisde it with the fish and chip shop and alberts cafe missing as they had been demolished
the photo was taken from the other side of the road outside the kingston library
i think the photo was taken in the late seventies when the buildings in this area were being demolished
i should have made a note of where the photo was located on this forum arrgh
many thanks for help in advance
the researcher

wee minx wrote:
Doog Doog wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong,but where the resturant is,I remember there being a shop called Crazy Cuts.


I remember it being this Doog Doog...


Image from http://govan.eveningtimes.co.uk/area/paisley-road-toll-1960s.html

anyone remember when the road outside the pub collapsed i think a heavy load passed that way along  paisley road and it caused the sewer to collapse i think this was in the early seventies or maybe it was just a sewer that collapsed?
Stuball

The road looks so smooth and level.... certainly isn't like that now
the researcher

the researcher wrote:
wee minx wrote:
Doog Doog wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong,but where the resturant is,I remember there being a shop called Crazy Cuts.


I remember it being this Doog Doog...


Image from http://govan.eveningtimes.co.uk/area/paisley-road-toll-1960s.html

anyone remember when the road outside the pub collapsed i think a heavy load passed that way along  paisley road and it caused the sewer to collapse i think this was in the early seventies or maybe it was just a sewer that collapsed?

i was using the photo as a illustration to show where the road collapse happened but cant remember the year but am sure it happened in the seventies
Toryglen-boy

How great is this? some great pics from where i lived, when i was a wean. Anyone have any pics of Eaglesham Street? wasn't it quite close to Paisley Road Toll? born in 1970, Eaglesham Street, then Burliegh Street, then Howat Street.  


Thanks, some of the post on here are minted.

:)
mani

Tradeston the building at 71/73 tradeston street is the old coop building and a very nice building it is and there is a stone above the doorway in commemoration of coop members who died in the first world war now as this area is earmarked for regeneration wouldn't it be nice if that stone was taken to another place for rememberance instead of ending up in a landfill site .
streapadair

It's that time of year again, folks.



Targer

I recognise the last photo. as being at the east end of Nelson St.. It has certainly hit the skids.
norrie

I am sure it will be a good seller
ThomasF

I remember drinking in the pub on the end in the late 70's early 80's. Can't remember what it was called then. Final stop off before hitting the Plaza.  
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