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ex-tobester

The Molindiner Burn is pretty well known due to its close proximity to the cathedral and at one time being the bath and drinking water of the well-to-do of Glasgow. The Camlachie Burn is not so well known but it was the dividing line for the high and low greens in Glasgow Green before it was culverted. Only a small section of the Molindiner remains visible to the side of the Great Eastern Hotel but some larger stretches of the Camlachie Burn remain visible.


A few pics of the burn itself, not much to see, but we had a good day.



UG_admin

Camlachie Burn stoat aboot

Starting off from Glasgow Green and heading east the first sight of the Camlachie Burn above ground is at Fordneuk Street in the Mile End Quarter. The Google Earth photos shows the bits you can see in blue and the bits in red are a rough guess of where it might be underground. The yellow line shows the line of Alma Street where there was a sound of running water from the culverts, but this is more than likely just sewerage and the true line of the burn is under where the red line is.



Camlachie burn at Fordneuk Street



The next time the burn reappears is at Fielden Street




It then disappears back underground and heads towards Alma Street



There is no visible sight of the burn in Alma Street, but an ear to the ground over a culvert and you can clearly hear the sound of quite fast-flowing water. There is a strip of land near to Alma Street that heads towards the Forge that is undeveloped and it seems closer to where the tracing of the old line of the burn ran in the 1970's map.



The burn then goes underneath the Gallowgate and the extension to The Forge retail Park. The old map is from a 1970's Glasgow A-Z which shows the site before the Forge was developed and indicates that a fair portion of the burn was culverted when the site was developed. The red line is a best guess of where the burn would have run assuming its course hadn't been changed.





The Google Earth photo shows the line of the Camlachie Burn as it flows towards the boundary wall of the old chemical works that are now demolished. Although it is possible to get into these works, to get a close up view, we hardy UGers didn't go in that day.

The line of the burn is just on the other side of the fence taken from the site of the electricity pylon that is marked on the original map.



There is another bit of the Camlachie Burn further east of Rigby Street that we left for another day



Photo of the Camlachie Burn on derelict land east of Rigby Street

cybers

as an original Barrowfield kid (Dalserf Street) we used to play in this foul burn behind Vinegarhill street also remember it surfaced for a short distance around Mountainblue Street as it had to be negotiated to gain entry to the MB bar factory yard.
From Vinegarhill street it passed between what used to be a sawdust factory (Best Description) and a cooperage yard along past the south of Daltons Scrap yard and finished as best memory serves me here to the south east of Parkhead Forge.



Borrowed from and Respect to Big Eck on this one...

On the days we never went EXPLORING in the orange mud of the burn (After all there was just so many beatings a week yir mammy could dish oot)
We played football on the old ash pitch of Vinegarhill...

Ahh nostalgia indeed .....wish i had been there with you guys.
catdubh

i also had a few clips round the ear for playing in this burn.there is a decent stretch still open running through springboig from hollowglen rd to greenfield rd,it then carries on to springboig rd but this section is fenced off,from there it goes underground running the length of springboig avenue before coming out again at the eastern end of the street
Alex Glass

Glasgow's Buried Streams

Reserected an old thread to hopefully bring new life to an aspect of Gasgow.



















James

 


James H
cybers

Sterling Work There Alex...    
Fjord

Fascinating read and great anecdotal details through the century's.... but where's page 144?

We want Moar!  
Alex Glass

Strange thing about this book is that the photo had a blank page on it's reverse side.

There is a couple of pages still joined along the top edge which means I can't scan it all.

I will do another couple of paragraphs and post them later.

Makes you want to get out and follow the routes of these old burns.
roryboy

Not a part of glasgow i know well but a great article. Almost makes me want to go and find it for myself, but i think i'll start my search for the old "stinky ocean" at Pinkston, where i played as a wean and went home reekin of chemicals. God knows what they were but i'm still here to tell the story.
James

roryboy wrote:
Not a part of glasgow i know well but a great article. Almost makes me want to go and find it for myself, but i think i'll start my search for the old "stinky ocean" at Pinkston, where i played as a wean and went home reekin of chemicals. God knows what they were but i'm still here to tell the story.

Was it the bit next to the Buchanan Street railway line, shown here?



James H
roryboy

Aye James that was the area right enough. To think i would be about 8 years old and makin rafts out of old doors from the tenements and sailing on the stinky ocean wi' all the chemicals. its a wonder my two lassies weren't born wi three legs or fourteen fingers, cause i know i landed in there a few times.

Roryboy...
James

I might be wrong, but I think they actually covered it over with a huge concrete
deck, then piled earth on top.

Anyway, this is all a bit



James H
Alex Glass

Re: Glasgow's Buried Streams

Alex Glass wrote:
Reserected an old thread to hopefully bring new life to an aspect of Gasgow.






















             

Added the two missing pages

Sorry Fjord for not reviewing this earlier.
Fjord

Alex it was well worth the brief wait thanks.

The last paragraphs in the last chapter really sums it up, so very true.
toomse

here's all the recorded locations I could find that should be visible present day

Brook Street





Forndneuk Street





Fielden Street





Rigby Street





Camburn Street





Also found these locations recorded for Lightburn










Water Board maintenance map that shows in broad detail which sections have been culverted




Water Board maintenance map that shows Camlachie Burn & Lightburn in close proximity
Alex Glass

Fantastic Toomse

Well done on your work to show the locations
toomse

Urban flood study for the Greenfield area
http://www.sbe.hw.ac.uk/staffprof...rban%20flood%20wave%20routing.pdf


mrsam

Alex Glass wrote:
Strange thing about this book is that the photo had a blank page on it's reverse side.


That's because it was different paper used to print the image as opposed to the normal paper used to print the text.
(Bet the picture is on shinier paper or is indented into the paper)
The text was printed using wood or metal typeset blocks in a frame.  On the paper of the time occasionaly the result was visable through the page on the other side of the paper.

Pictures were often etched metal plates that were inked and pressed to give a fine picture quality that was too valuable to spoil by having text indentations or bleed from the other page, also this required finer grade paper than normal printing.
(Bet (also) that the pages of the book are bound so that the pictures are on the same piece of paper.)

It takes 1 large sheet of paper to make a book, cut up and bound very carefully.

Picture below of print blocks borrowed from Ebay (Listing by Fugazi 13) of old wooden printing blocks



Mr Sam
Alex Glass

Thanks Sam

The reason why I thought it so strange was that the picture isn't that different from the other drawings but was on a seperate page. You are correct it is different paper as well  
toomse

also found this location just north of the petrol station at the Forge

toomse

Sheddens Place (north of Old Shettleston Road/Blair Street)

toomse

Hollowglen Road





Greenfield Road





Croftspar Avenue





Kerrera Place
James dunn

I worked on the flats where the old dunn and Moore used to be at bridgeton the molidiner was uncovered when build works were going on  the whole length of the site  I was told this was the moulin diner would this be the case
cybers

Doubt it ... The Mollie vents into the clyde just beside the weir. It flows under the lower barras at Molindinar street coming down from behind the great eastern at duke street.

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