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James

West and North - Discussion Thread

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Please keep all comments about West and North images in here folks.  
Doog Doog

good stuff Streapadair,keep them coming..
James

streapadair wrote:
Maryhill Rd, somewhere south of Bilsland Dr. There’s a Burmah garage on the left (3 star 69p, and that would have been per gallon, = 18p per litre), possibly on the site of the current Esso place.   May 1975


A lot of people on here know exactly where that is...  






James H
norrie

Hi strepadair, you have done it again, more photos of buildings long gone.
Thanks for posting them.
Bye for now, norrie
cybers

james73 wrote:
streapadair wrote:
Maryhill Rd, somewhere south of Bilsland Dr. There’s a Burmah garage on the left (3 star 69p, and that would have been per gallon, = 18p per litre), possibly on the site of the current Esso place.   May 1975


A lot of people on here know exactly where that is...  






James H



AND I SWEAR TO GOD OFFICER THAT WAS HOW THE FIGHT STARTED        

Where the feck were you when that one broke out strepadair...
are you quite sure the location is right lmao
falseface

Crackers! again!
Flash1974

cybers wrote:
james73 wrote:
streapadair wrote:
Maryhill Rd, somewhere south of Bilsland Dr. There’s a Burmah garage on the left (3 star 69p, and that would have been per gallon, = 18p per litre), possibly on the site of the current Esso place.   May 1975


A lot of people on here know exactly where that is...  






James H



AND I SWEAR TO GOD OFFICER THAT WAS HOW THE FIGHT STARTED        

Where the feck were you when that one broke out strepadair...
are you quite sure the location is right lmao


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Worked on that Image of Maryhill Road for you guys

Hope its ok




I'm guessing that the pic is taken in 1974 after the General Election that year (See Labour Poster on the Wall)

Buildings were demolished by the time Super Streap took his pic in May 1975
John

Took me a few sittings to get through them, but once again thanks for those Streapadair  

Hello Flash, I don`t know if its me, but all i`m seeing is a red X
Flash1974

Scary wrote:
Took me a few sittings to get through them, but once again thanks for those Streapadair  

Hello Flash, I don`t know if its me, but all i`m seeing is a red X


Yeah Scary - thought I uploaded it from my computer after spending some time on it

Just new on here so it looks as if I done something wrong  

Sorry about that - whats the best way of uploading to the forum guys?
cybers

Photobucket Flickr Imagebin
All have free accounts just a matter of choosing your poison.
Use the image address usually found near your picture on the page somewhere...
(With Flickr Its Below)
Insert on page highlight the addy and press the Img* tab and it should look similar to below  
[img]hxxp.www.flic-kr.co/offweadvsfgr5[/img]
Saltmarketeer

streapadair wrote:



I love this one, especially the half-demolished block in the distant left.

What a photo.

As for the rest, what can I say? Brilliant work.

Cyber pint now and a real one owed if I ever get along to a UG session.
Fjord

Thanks for adding these Streapy they're bloody brilliant mate

I think I've found the location of the Victoria Circus villa. The clue was the Heavy wrought iron fence evidence. The BT exchange is directly behind it on Lindfern Road which was formerly Richmond Road as shown in the map.



It's now a private care home.




1895 map shows an un-named villa which I'm assuming is the one in your photo. Also Eamont Lodge looks as if it had been demolished when you took the photo.

Saltmarketeer

Some people on this thread are WAY too good at colouring-in...

Fjord

Saltmarketeer wrote:
Some people on this thread are WAY too good at colouring-in...



It's a piece of piss with the bucket fill tool in Photoshop= no skillz req'd  
Eddy

streapadair wrote:
Applecross St bascule bridge. The quadrant plate is still there (and the deck repaired), but the bridge is no longer hand-cranked. I think the tenements were in Oakbank Terrace but am prepared to be corrected on this.   March 1974



That is Oakbank Terrace;we lived there, 1951-63. By the way, don't be so hard on yourself about 'failing' to have taken pictures of this area and Springburn.
I'm still looking for a picture of Oakbank Terrace but now have a lot of the area. Having helped set up the Springburn Museum, I can say that there is no shortage of photos of that area. Certainly nothing of significance has been lost though it might have benifited from someone like you with an eye for detail.
Thanks very much for posting these. Did you see the aerial shot of St Joseph's that I posted?
Eddy
kev

Posted this link way back in January in the demolition section..Sent a PM with it in it to Streapadair last night.Basically there was a guy went round Springburn in 1977 doing what Streap did in the rest of the city..So for anyone who has not come across the link here it is again.
http://oldspringburn.wetpaint.com...os/album/68729/Springburn+in+1977
streapadair

Eddy wrote:
Did you see the aerial shot of St Joseph's that I posted?
Eddy


Sorry, I missed it but I've seen it now, thanks. Very interesting - mid 80s I'm guessing? Confirms what Merryhill said about the bulk of the church being in its length. It was a lovely elegant frontage but it seemed almost miniature compared to the other big RC churches, St Mungo, St Aloysius, St Alphonus, several others.
streapadair

Fjord wrote:


I think I've found the location of the Victoria Circus villa.


Been up for another looky, twice in fact, and can tell you you're partly right. That new building (seems it's sheltered apartments rather than a care home) must be where the ruin was (heavy fence evidence not entirely conclusive, that was the standard fencing used in the Circus, but nowhere else fits), but it was Eamont Lodge and not the one marked on your map. In fact the new building is also Eamont Lodge (Bield Housing Assoc.).

There was some evidence I hadn't made available to you - a pic from the opposite direction which I didn't think was interesting enough to include in the collection (added it now).

As you can see, it was also taken from a street, must have been Richmond/Linfern Rd, ergo it was the corner building. I measured carefully from the 1890s map the distance from Linfern to the south gate of Eamont, 142ft/47yds, paced it out, and it matched.

There remains the fact that the ruin doesn't look much like the plan on the map, but I think the anomalies can be accounted for. What looks like a long southern extension - I think this may have been a basement block evident on the plan but not on the elevation, perhaps a coachhouse/garage, for the drive clearly led downwards, went under an arch, and maybe doubled back. The large porch at the NE corner - there's something going on at the extreme right of photo 1 but it's not clear what, while on photo 2 at the left of the building there's just the glimpse of a porch which would have had to be at an angle to be visible at all. The bay window on the west side fits perfectly.

All I can find about the old Eamont Lodge is that in the 1870s it was the property of Robert Balloch, tea merchant. In 1877 he married off his daughter Annie to a young stockbroker. Affluent area then as now.
streapadair

Saltmarketeer wrote:

I love this one, especially the half-demolished block in the distant left.


Thanks. Would you happen to know just where it was taken, for I'm having trouble pinning it down? (Maybe have to get Prof. Fjord on the case.). Pretty sure it was somewhere between the Maryhill Locks and Stockingfield Junction, looking east(-ish), and the canal does a bit of twisting and turning which fits the left/right bends in the photo. But where were the tenements on the hill? Where the allotments running down from them? And is that Ruchill Hospital centre skyline - I don't think it's visible from any part of the towpath, but that could be due to the trees, for the banks are much more wooded now.

SCRAN has some photos of this 1975 festival (including at least one of this boat and horse) as well as the 1973 and 1974 ones, but they don't elucidate things.
27stowst

streapadair, Thanks for another marvelous collection. Ah love this site!!!        
Saltmarketeer

streapadair wrote:
Saltmarketeer wrote:

I love this one, especially the half-demolished block in the distant left.


Thanks. Would you happen to know just where it was taken, for I'm having trouble pinning it down? (Maybe have to get Prof. Fjord on the case.). Pretty sure it was somewhere between the Maryhill Locks and Stockingfield Junction, looking east(-ish), and the canal does a bit of twisting and turning which fits the left/right bends in the photo. But where were the tenements on the hill? Where the allotments running down from them? And is that Ruchill Hospital centre skyline - I don't think it's visible from any part of the towpath, but that could be due to the trees, for the banks are much more wooded now.

SCRAN has some photos of this 1975 festival (including at least one of this boat and horse) as well as the 1973 and 1974 ones, but they don't elucidate things.


Sandbank Street maybe? Those look like four spires in the middle distance.

streapadair

Saltmarketeer wrote:

Sandbank Street maybe? Those look like four spires in the middle distance.



Think you're right, well up the hill at Campbell St. The allotments had been puzzling me, but the 1890s map shows an allotment area below Campbell St.


This must be Maryhill Industrial School (started as a Magdalene, then an Industrial School for Girls, then according to the c1980 map a school for the deaf). New housing now, St Clairs.
Fjord

streapadair wrote:
Fjord wrote:


I think I've found the location of the Victoria Circus villa.



There was some evidence I hadn't made available to you - a pic from the opposite direction which I didn't think was interesting enough to include in the collection (added it now).




Cheers for the additional photo and info I went down for a look yesterday and and it all made sense. Admittedly I didn't have far to walk as it's almost outside my front door.
Fjord

Eddy wrote:
streapadair wrote:
Applecross St bascule bridge. The quadrant plate is still there (and the deck repaired), but the bridge is no longer hand-cranked. I think the tenements were in Oakbank Terrace but am prepared to be corrected on this.   March 1974



That is Oakbank Terrace;we lived there, 1951-63. By the way, don't be so hard on yourself about 'failing' to have taken pictures of this area and Springburn.
I'm still looking for a picture of Oakbank Terrace but now have a lot of the area. Having helped set up the Springburn Museum, I can say that there is no shortage of photos of that area. Certainly nothing of significance has been lost though it might have benifited from someone like you with an eye for detail.
Thanks very much for posting these. Did you see the aerial shot of St Joseph's that I posted?
Eddy



You might be interested in this late 1940's aerial image of the area




kev

Nice pic of Baird Brae and Oakbank hospital which can be seen on the right of Fjords aerial photo at the sharp v in the road

streapadair

Cracker, Kev. Where on earth do you get them from? (That's a rhetorical question, no need to answer).

I've been using Baird's Brae quite a bit, painless way of getting to the town by bike, and was gobsmacked to find on VM that there used to be a huge cinema at the gushet. Keep meaning to take a Then & Now.
kev

Bairds brae today...at least the cobbles are still there

Eddy

You might be interested in this late 1940's aerial image of the area




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Thank you Fjord, great detail in this. The area had changed a wee bit by the time we lived there but not by much though Oakbank St only had two closes and two pubs, one on each corner, by the '50s.
Do you have any idea what the objects are in the large open area besides the hospital?
Eddy
streapadair

Air-raid shelters? There's more about than just the ones at the hospital.
Stuball

Nice pic of the Astoria... I watched it burn to the ground in 1995. It was the 2nd largest cinema in Glasgow I believe
Flash1974

cybers wrote:
Photobucket Flickr Imagebin
All have free accounts just a matter of choosing your poison.
Use the image address usually found near your picture on the page somewhere...
(With Flickr Its Below)
Insert on page highlight the addy and press the Img* tab and it should look similar to below  
[img]hxxp.www.flic-kr.co/offweadvsfgr5[/img]


Got round to doing the Flickr Account Chaps  







Thankfully - success, Cheers Cybers  

Compare with the untreated version, not completely perfect, spent a bit of time on it - I put down a date of around October 1974 tho it could be September as the tree on the left in the old cottage garden is in bloom, people are walking about in light-ish clothing and the Labour Election poster looks semi-fresh lol but definitely before Streaps pic taken in May 1975 of course.


While I'm here, here's another one from The North - Springburn Road across from the old St Rollox Offices - Mitchell Library picture which was dated 1976







Here's one of Super Streaps pics from this section which he felt was poor quality, so I've cleaned it up a bit and took the bluriness away.







I have a lot of various pics from various sources, all from the 70's so I'll post them up soon as well.
norrie

Hi kev, I thought you were going to point me in the direction of new photos of Springburn, alas I have that collection, the photographer was kind enough for me to copy them, great photos sure enough.
Its a pity he started doing Springburn when a lot of it was already demolished.
One of these days I will get the street where I lived in Springburn

Bye for now, norrie
27stowst

That broken windae looks like a witch oan her broomstick    
kev

norrie wrote:
Hi kev, I thought you were going to point me in the direction of new photos of Springburn, alas I have that collection, the photographer was kind enough for me to copy them, great photos sure enough.
Its a pity he started doing Springburn when a lot of it was already demolished.
One of these days I will get the street where I lived in Springburn

Bye for now, norrie


What street was that Norrie..?
Delmont St Xavier

streapadair wrote:
Byres Rd from Ruthven St.   January 1976



This one photo has brought back so many vivid memories of Byres Road, but this one brought back hidden memories.  To the right of the picture, past the Subway lay the Grosvenor Cafe (original) and Coopers Fine-Fare.  Futher down out of view there was a shop that sold furs and many more individual shops of good quality.
escotregen

Steapadair (or anyone else) do you have any images of the original hand-cranked bridge over the canal at the top of Northpark Street in Maryhill?

I have a bit of local oral history on that location. I did cover it on another board, but with the suite of quality images here it seems fitting to re-tell.
Eddy

escotregen wrote:
Steapadair (or anyone else) do you have any images of the original hand-cranked bridge over the canal at the top of Northpark Street in Maryhill?

I have a bit of local oral history on that location. I did cover it on another board, but with the suite of quality images here it seems fitting to re-tell.


There are several on the Virtual Mitchell.

Eddy
escotregen

Thanks Eddy... err... does anybody here have the ability to post one of dem images on here (if that's permissible?) ... cos I don't  
norrie

Hi Kev, I lived in Huntershill st Springburn
Bye for now, norrie
kev

norrie wrote:
Hi Kev, I lived in Huntershill st Springburn
Bye for now, norrie

First shot is the back of the tenements in Huntershill st..If I remember correctly there was only one close on the north side  then Jackies dairy which I can recall was totaly minging,then an entrance into the back courts of the 2nd picture then an electrical sub station and then Galloway st..what side did you live on?



The Spring Inn was built where the ad hoardings are at the tram

Photo taken at the bottom of Huntershill st looking up to Cairn st and Stobhill road with the ..plots.. to the left

norrie

Hi kev, thanks for trying, you have posted the only two photos I have of that area
I lived in number 21, left side of the street heading up to Galloway st

Bye for now, norrie
kev

Will keep looking Norrie..cheers
norrie

Thanks Kev, norrie
flim

streapadair wrote:
By the Cut of Junction between Port Dundas and the Monkland Canal, looking east to Garngadhill and Townhead Parish Church. The Glasgow Garnkirk and Coatbridge railway brought coal to the city, and this spur served a coal depot on Pinkston Rd. The St Rollox Sawmill, which faced on to Baird St, is on the other bank. The M8 runs here now.



Hi Streapadair..Marvellous photo,s in the West and North Section , although I was born around the Keppochhill Rd area I cant for the love of me remember a bridge over the canal there , as marked on Page 10 plan posted at 10.48 p.m. on Aug 31-2009 ,could it possibly be Springburn Rd at Castle St , I could be wrong..Cheers Flim
Alex Glass

Welcome to Urban Glasgow Film

Don't know myself if you are correct but I am sure someone with the answer will come along soon.
James

Hi flim. It looks like Pinkston Road was called Keppochhill Road at that time.



James H
norrie

Hi Flim, are you still around
We will need to stop meeting like this
Should be quiet up your way now the Speedway is finished for the  season.
Enjoy the board.
Bye for now, norrie
flim

Hi James73.. Although I have a map of 1913 which still shows as Pinkston Road,I am in complete agreement with you in saying it should read Pinkston Road unless the map Streapadair posted was before 1913 ,and it is actually Glebe St Canal Bridge before entering St Rollox Basin then onto Castle St.. Thanks Norrie and Alex Glas for the welcome to the board..Cheers Flim
Flash1974

I shall add some worthy note to the discussion, if nobody minds me doing so

Having a look at a map from 1892-1894, this was in fact Keppochhil Road, it wasn't named Pinkston Road till sometime in the 1900's probably when Glasgow Corporation went re-naming streets after adding Partick and Govan to the city

Keppochhill Road as it is now was New Keppochhill Road at the time and the map shows very little housing, fields, Cowlairs House, Flemington House which is now the remains of Flemington Street and Saracen Street was very much rural as well

Have a look - interesting stuff to be discovered

http://geo.nls.uk/ostowns/
cheesylion

Wee question, If you lived in Panmuir St/Wester Common just off Saracen St/Balmore Rd in the 60s & 70s, where would you have gone to secondary school? Trying to do a bit of family tree research.
cheesylion

cheesylion wrote:
Wee question, If you lived in Panmuir St/Wester Common just off Saracen St/Balmore Rd in the 60s & 70s, where would you have gone to secondary school? Trying to do a bit of family tree research.


  Nobody any idea?  
cybers

For some reason I keep coming back to Stoneyhurst Street but I know not why as i have very limited knowledge of the area except from a layout perspective.

Was the Auckland Street school always a primary ?
norrie

Hi cheesylion, might depend on your grades, if they were high, you may well have went to High Possil,failing that the only other school I can think of was the one at Stoneyhurst st/Hobart st
cheesylion

Thanks chaps, you've given me something to look for at least as I had no idea at all.
Thanks again.
jim graham

cheesylion wrote:
Wee question, If you lived in Panmuir St/Wester Common just off Saracen St/Balmore Rd in the 60s & 70s, where would you have gone to secondary school? Trying to do a bit of family tree research.


hi i lived in panmure street in the 60s and 70s and went to St Cuthberts primary on Auckland  Street. the secondary part of the school closed down in the early 60s and we were given the option to St Gregorys in Maryhill or St Augustines in Milton
St augustines was on liddlesdale road and is no longer with us as it was demolished a few years ago and a new primary has been built there i think its called St Monicas

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