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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:13 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

That's a hell of a picture you paint there, iangr.  
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:51 pm    Post subject: East of the cross Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Catnip. I was being very reserved in describing the conditions I put up with when I worked in there back in 1961-63. What I mean is that the description was not exaggerated in any way. How I felt at the time was somewhat worse than my modern sense of rationality and fair play could paint. Inside my young head, I wrestled with the fear of an overbearing boss in a non-unionized environment who liked to humiliate his employees, young and old and enjoy the sight of their trembling hands as they stood stiff in penance before him and in front of colleagues too. He had 'all power' over us and we concerned ourselves about, the unemployment office and a severed apprenticeship. In truth the reality was that there were other sign companies around with owners that were aware of our plight and would have taken us on willingly for our expertise. Of course being only 19 or 20 we didn't know that. It was later on in life that I came to appreciate the value of a trade union and a good slice of further education, to escape the bonds of this style of employer. I doubt even nowadays, in certain situations, if this scene of indignity has entirely vanished.

Working in a drawing office in winter there, with gaps in the windows and only some brick storage heaters to rely on, was a miserable experience. I remember wearing two wool sweaters, a jacket, a woolly hat and gloves. Whilst holding a pencil, wearing gloves and leaning over a large flat drawing table lit by fluorescent lamps, I attempted to execute the curves of full size, large typeface letters. These drawings were later to be used by workmen to fabricate a plastic, metal or glass sign. My fingers hurt. It was like that for everyone there then. I guess for other staff elsewhere, the metal shop wasn't so bad as they had a brazier, the acrylic shop an industrial oven and the glass shop, Bunsen burners. We in the drawing office just froze and as for the 'asbestos paper'....?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

So yi were spoiled then  
I remember going to meet my mum at her work as a kid and they were sitting in duffelcoats and gloves in a freezing factory sewing swimwear. I cannot remember the name of the place but it was above a row of shops in Alexandra Park Street backing onto the railway.

Conditions were sh!te back then and no doubt would be prosecuted today.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Wish I hadn't read about that cauld place cos it awakened memories of the cauldest nightshift I did in my life, at a place so far 'east of the cross' it was nearly at another wan, Motherwell cross!

Worked for a wee while at Motherwell station in early 1970. At that time there was a parcels station there and parcels lorries and trains worked there. The big wooden parcels shed lay between present day platforms 2 and 3 - back then they were numbered 2 and 5, as there used to be another two docks numbered 3 & 4 on a single short siding at the north end of the station, that stopped just short of the shed.

Being a clerk I wasn't involved in unloading the train, that would have at least kept me warm, my job was just to 'sheet' the parcels - the porter read out the address details on the parcels labels and I wrote these onto the motor drivers' delivery sheets, on a freezing winter's night with frost and snow on the ground, in an open shed with no form of heating. Just stood there with a clipboard, writing.

Nobody had showed me the ropes. I was told later the guy I was working with was the slowest. To keep warm and get it done quick what usually happened was the porter and clerk split the parcels between them, each read the labels, sheeted them and sorted them into the correct delivery bays for the railway motor drivers to load into their lorries in the morning.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Marblez wrote:
The car on the right is an Audi 80 ... that particular model was first introduced in 1978 so the photo cannot be earlier than that ... your initial guess of 1977 was not far off the mark

I was a pupil at St Mary's from 1975 and I remember the sign for the shop  being there when we played on the school football  pitch. From what I remember it was either 80 or 81 that those buildings came down along with all the old tenements on Abercromby Street. They started clearing it and work began on the houses that are now there. I'm sure the 4 ways pub survived another year or two after that along with the small cafe/roll shop on the opposite corner of the junction.

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