Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject: St Joseph's, North Woodside
Anyone attend St Joseph's church (N Woodside Rd) or school (Braid St), or familiar with either or both? Needing help with this photo (3/3/74) - my note on the back of the contact sheet reads "St Josephs, ?Grove St", but I'm pretty sure it's not Grove St (def. not the Grove St Institute anyway). So what are these buildings? The nearer has a barrier on the pavement, suggesting a school, while the further looks quite ecclesiastical, with a cross on the apex of the roof, though a bit small for a busy Catholic church.
The brick building has a street name on it, which though not entirely clear looks like 'Manresa Pl.'. This name doesn't appear on any of 5 town plans 1892-1980 I've consulted, but curiously there is a modern Manresa Place, off Braid Square roughly where N Woodside Rd would have been before redelevopment.
Thanks to any old Northwoodsidean who can help with identification.
Thanks for taking the trouble, Fjord. Great photo, full of interest, and the resolution's fine. Down in the bottom left there's St George's X, the Metropole, and Gardner St with the start of Grove St, but sadly it stops 100 yards or so short of where the buildings I'm looking for are. Sod's Law in action.
Thanks for taking the trouble, Fjord. Great photo, full of interest, and the resolution's fine. Down in the bottom left there's St George's X, the Metropole, and Gardner St with the start of Grove St, but sadly it stops 100 yards or so short of where the buildings I'm looking for are. Sod's Law in action.
Please don't go to any undue trouble. Asa last resort I'll include it in a forthcoming 'West & North' set with a plea, and if it's anything like the 'East' stuff somebody will come up with the goods. The collective knowledge of UG is impressive.
Sreapadair,
I'm from this area, living here again and do a slide-show/talk on its history but this photo has me stumped.I've asked my brother to have a look at it as his memory is much better than mine.
I've looked through some aerial shots and checked the Ordnance Survey from 1950 for some clues. It could be - he said as if he knew - St Peter's St. as the OS shows a Hall adjoining St Peter's Episcopal Chuch which is next to Grove St Primary.
Manressa Place isn't shown on this section of the OS but my Street Directory lists it as C.4.Without seeing Fjord's pic I can't see the connection to St George's Rd. and when you refer to Gardner St - do you mean Gladstone St?
I'd be pleased to pass on any snaps I have that might help solve this one.
The Gardner St I referred to is St Peter's St, I was looking at the 1892 map and the name changed in the 1920s. Here's a bit of a reprint of a 1929 map, right at the northern edge of it or I would have included more of N Woodside Rd.
As I said, my note at the time named 'St Joseph's', and I think I must have had a reason for this as I was a stranger to your part of town and I'd never heard of St Joseph's, but my notes aren't infallible.
Was Grove St Primary the one at St Peter's/Grove/Balnain Sts? Did it abut directly on to a street the way the one in my pic does? Where would Manresa Place have been - does your Directory state what street/s it ran off?
I'll try to assemble a section of the 1892 map - Sod's Law again, it's right on the junction of 4 different sheets - which may/may not clarify things.
Thanks again for taking the trouble. If you'd like to use the photo in your shows, you're welcome, I can make a full-size file available for you to download.
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