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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:54 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Hi Lobeydoser, there is a street off Flemington st, Valleyfield st, then its Ayr st
The photos came from a guy in OZ and he had IDd them when he took them in the 70s, I accepted what he said but they were checked against old Springburn maps

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

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Hi Lobeydoser, there is a street off Flemington st, Valleyfield st, then its Ayr st
The photos came from a guy in OZ and he had IDd them when he took them in the 70s, I accepted what he said but they were checked against old Springburn maps


Hi, Norrie -- I lived at 64 Flemington St about 61/62 years ago, when I was 5/6 years old. As I recall, our close was the first one around the corner from Ayr St, and we definitely lived directly opposite the NB Loco Works, which was on the opposite corner of Flemington St and Ayr St. (This is shown as the small cross-hatched area in the top right corner of your map.)

I well remember Adamswell St, Ayr St (and the library at the far end of Ayr St, near the "railway steps") as well as Flemington St and Springburn Rd.

I guess as I'm getting older, my memory is fading like "snow aff a dyke" but I can't for the life of me remember Valleyfield St being there...... although I DO remember steps going up to Adamswell St. which was on a higher level than Flemington St - but I can't remember where the steps were exactly. I'm guessing they were at the end of Valleyfield St.

What puzzles me about the photo (last one on page 9) is that Ayr St definitely ran ACROSS both sides of Flemington St (even the map shows that) but the photo (not the map!) shows no Äyr St on the left side of Flemington St. In fact, there's a lampost there.

If the street shown further up on the left side of the pic (where the cars are parked) IS Ayr St, then where is the NB Loco Works? And where is Valleyfield St?....THAT'S why I think the pic description may just possibly be wrong......

P.S. The large building in the centre of the photo (which looks as if it's sitting in the centre of Flemington St) COULD be NB Loco due to its roofline. But if that's NB loco, then the photo was taken from further down Flemington St, NOT at Ayr St.

PPS. Do you have a map showing more of Flemington St, to the right of the map above? If so could you post it? Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Hi Lobby Dosser if you look at the end of Valleyfield st you will see a set of steps to Adamswell st
I cant argue with somebody who lived there but I will check this photo out, I dont like wrongly titled photos
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Hi Lobey Dosser, here is a copy of a Springburn map
If its too small I can email it to you



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Hi Lobey Dosser, does this photo help
I am guessing the large space to the left was the railway works

Ayr st from Flemington st, 1977

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

the pic could be right as when ayr st crosses flemington st it does it at an angle....on the left hand side (as you look at the pic) ayr st is/was a few meters further down the road so the angle of the photo could just miss the corner.....if that makes any sense.

if you zoom in to the photo you can see the public halls (in the centre) then springburn road (where the bus is) so it must be vallyfield st on the left which means it must be the corner of ayr st where the photo was taken.

i think the loco works would have been right behind the photgrapher
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

norrie wrote:
Hi Lobey Dosser, does this photo help
I am guessing the large space to the left was the railway works

Ayr st from Flemington st, 1977


Hi, Norrie - Yes it COULD be Ayr St, looking DOWN Flemingon St, with the vacant ground on the left being the site of the former NB Loco works. (If you look closely at the kerbs, you'll see that Ayr St continues across Flemington St to the left of this pic.)

If it is, compare this Ayr St location (and the NB Loco building's former location) in THIS photo to the photo on page 9, and you'll see that the page 9 photo couldn't have been taken at Ayr St, looking UP Flemington St. That photo would HAVE to have been taken from quite a bit further down Flemington St.

As proof of my claim, the photo on page 9 doesn't show any part of Ayr St on the lefthand side, where the lampost is located in the same pic, yet the MAP shows Ayr St running off both sides of Flemington St.  And if Ayr St is where the cars are parked a little farther up, on the left of the pic on page 9, where is the NB Loco works?

To sum it all up, I think the page 9 photo was taken from a point farther down Flemington St around where Teacher's Whisky Distillery was later located - NOT from Ayr St.

If the NB Loco Works *IS* the building shown on the page 9 photo, way up Flemington St, and if I'm correct, then the page 9 photo definitely wasn't taken from Ayr St, as The NB Loco Works was right at the corner of Ayr St and Flemington St, where the fence is shown in *this* pic
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

OK. I've taken another look at the pics and the map, and I think what "Me" says does make a lot of sense.....

Using Me's description, if the photographer stood on the corner where NB Loco was formerly located, with NB Loco at his right shoulder, and took the shot looking up Flemington St,  he could have missed out any view of the kerb on the diagonally-opposite corner of Ayr St.

And as I look at the location of the lamppost (L.H. side of page 9 pic), it looks as if it could be exactly the same lamppost shown on the right hand side of the page 10 pic.

This would mean (as Me says) that the cars on the left of page 9 pic are parked on Valleyfield St.

Sorry...My bad! Give the photographer back his camera, with my abject apologies!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Ho Lobey dosser, dont worry about it, you have been away too long and anyway I would rather be corrected than have a photo wrongly titled
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

norrie wrote:
Bedlay st Petershill rd 1977



I lived in the tenement on the right in Bedlay St. Went to the school behind, 1949-51, when we moved to Woodlands Rd. My abiding memory is of me and another two boys walking down the St. on the the other side to our house, arms linked behind our backs, shouting "We won the war" and a cop giving us hell for it.

Missed a typo on the third line, "on the" twice.

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