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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for coming across as negative Alex but looking around Glasgow there are many fine example of sport facilities where the funding was withdrawn to save money whilst leaving communities without.
Govanhill baths is a prime example and there are many more around the city.
Now of course i am not getting at you and please do not read it as such but will the funding be in place to upkeep these buildings.
What is the expected lifespan of the Velodrome ? As more and more of these new buildings are erected with life expectancies of far less than the the architects of old ever envisaged would you consider that even buildings are now part of our throw away society.

and just to re-iterate I personally love the great designs whilst both very modern and contemporary whilst leaving me with this feeling Glasgow turned its back on many great local born and bred sporting heroes who gave an entire lifetime to entertaining the patrons of the city by naming the velodrome after an Edinburgh born and based cyclist.

PM sent about something I heard recently...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Alex, you will have better information than we do and I hope things will work out.

I didnt realise that Glasgows cyclists had to go elsewhere to train for track events, in that case the velodrome will be of good use and perhaps even for non cycling events.

I still cant shake off my doubts, if Glasgow needed all this stuff including the new housing, what would have happened if they had not got the games, would Glasgow have been able to afford them.
Ach ignore this old doubter

I will be first on this board if the games are a success, pay there way and the facilities are used by the public to say I got it wrong

I was in Montreal 1993, my friends was taking me around and we passed the Olympic arenas, he said most of them were not in use, how many other cities are in this position

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a bit of time so did some searching on Olympics legacies, along the lines of my previous query about claimed and actual legacy.

From the following article, it appears that it was only in 2001 that the International Olympic Committee formalised acknowledged the impacts (i.e both positive and negative effects) of Olympic games.

http://www.icsspe.org/members/bul...=72546206de6edfeeb2fbc3f474a8d88e

The author of this article is carrying out studies specifically on the Olympic and Para-olympic games in Sydney in 2000.    In the past, legacy was not formally planned and in Sydney the legacy was initially disappointing.   However, much has been achieved in the past few years.

The conclusions at the end of the article summarise some of the main points and is worth reading.

I found this article about the legacy from the Manchester Commonwealth Games in 2002.  No specific dates in the article, but it has a copyright mark from 2003.

http://www.gameslegacy.co.uk/cgi-bin/index.cgi/27

There is also some info on legacy in this Wikipedia article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002...#Legacy_and_impact_on_host_nation


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not want to upset anyone , but the UK and Scottish Parliament's have Banned small bore pistol shooting , and if Wee Eck Salmond and his Gang get there way  Airguns will be banned as well , the Hypocrisy off it all ,   they will allow Shooting Sports for the Commonwealth Games but the rest of the time UK  shooters of pistol's, have to train abroad it makes me angry  I know this is off Topic , but I had to make a point as a keen Shooter and EX soldier  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Billycan, my pal was a coach in a shooting club and he feels the same way with you.
If I remember right, UK usually done well in shooting event in Olympics etc

Guns have been taken of licensed gun club members and yet people are still being shot

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all because youths are getting hold of airguns and shooting children and innocent bystanders. You could argue that tighter controls should be brought in but we all know that that doesnt always work... just look at alcohol and the new laws they've brought in for that
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to mention the damage done to a whole town by small bore pistols in a school.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

norrie wrote:
Hi Billycan, my pal was a coach in a shooting club and he feels the same way with you.
If I remember right, UK usually done well in shooting event in Olympics etc

Guns have been taken of licensed gun club members and yet people are still being shot

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Thanks Norrie for the Sensible Reply
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BILLYCAN wrote:
Thanks Norrie for the Sensible Reply


Are you implying my reply is not sensible?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks Norrie for the Sensible Reply


Are you implying my reply is not sensible?


Not at all, I agree that there are too many Airguns in the wrong hands, but believe that if it's not airguns they would use something else just as lethal.   As a father of 3, I'm aware of the dangers of misuse of firearms or any other potentially lethal device or vehicle for that matter.  By banning things you are not getting to the cause of misuse, just driving the problems underground.

I did not wish to enter a debate about the ban, just the hyprocisy of the government implementing a complete ban on pistols, only then to allow this to go ahead at showcase events.

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