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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:51 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

When we were in Berlin we took the Trabi safari and it was a blast.

They hand you the keys to your own Trabant and a 2 way radio of tour Berlin in a convoy of Trabants.

Trabi safari 3 by Dave Campbell, on Flickr

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

That sounds like a total blast...  
Theres an auld polish guy lives nearby and he drives a trabant sometimes. Two stroke and loads of smoke  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

lotus1 by Dave Campbell, on Flickr

lotus4 by Dave Campbell, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

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lotus1 by Dave Campbell, on Flickr


What a strange looking bike!  
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I had someone shout something similar to me on Wednesday as he proceeded through a red light trying to turn right and got whacked by another car.

I went and picked him up and somehow it was my fault he got run over  
I am willing to bet the footage from his head mounted go pro does not make it online.

   
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It is amazing just how many drivers are unable to work out why the road has a picture of a bike on it. Either that or they have faulty brakes.

Bike boxes are there for a reason, stopping your car in them wont get you where you are going any faster.
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To be honest sometimes you just get caught in them due to the indecision of the driver in front, Then the lights change and some two bob knob with a bunch of bananas on his head wants to get all arsey about it while you are driving a vehicle larger than average and also need a lot of room to turn right safely. The same mugs can be seen coming down the inside of trailers turning left then wondering why there is a cab in front of them. Do not even get me started on pavement riders who refuse to look while crossing junctions. You as a driver must also be able to see it from both sides.


Hopefully the Cyclist Insurance bill will be passed in May.
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If its sweeping generalizations you want to trade in then lets hate ALL pedestrians because I saw one cross when the red man was on or lets ban taxi drivers because I saw one double parked in a dangerous spot. How about busses? One of them pulled out in front of me last week so they are all twats and need banned.

Taxing and insuring cyclists is a ridiculous idea. Re-educating bad drivers, that sounds better.

Dont enter a junction unless your exit is clear, thats a good way to avoid being stuck in a bike box and for the reasons for their existance this wiki page should help; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_stop_line

I drive and cycle and I see far more dangerous drivers than I do cyclists but as people never like to look at their own inadequacy's its easier to point out fault with others.

And just for information, I have covered 1500 miles on my bike this year and never have banana's on my head, never undertake trucks at junctions and never run through red lights blindly but go ahead and judge me with the one or two bad cyclists you may have seen.
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That said, I'm on BTJustice's side here.......





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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

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If its sweeping generalizations you want to trade in then lets hate ALL pedestrians because I saw one cross when the red man was on or lets ban taxi drivers because I saw one double parked in a dangerous spot. How about busses? One of them pulled out in front of me last week so they are all twats and need banned.

Taxing and insuring cyclists is a ridiculous idea. Re-educating bad drivers, that sounds better.

Dont enter a junction unless your exit is clear, thats a good way to avoid being stuck in a bike box and for the reasons for their existance this wiki page should help; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_stop_line

I drive and cycle and I see far more dangerous drivers than I do cyclists but as people never like to look at their own inadequacy's its easier to point out fault with others.

And just for information, I have covered 1500 miles on my bike this year and never have banana's on my head, never undertake trucks at junctions and never run through red lights blindly but go ahead and judge me with the one or two bad cyclists you may have seen.


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I was not judging you personally, it's easy to pick fault with the drivers after all they far outnumber the cyclists, I agree with almost everything you state apart from the rather obvious one about the car sitting in the box for bikes. There are so many reasons this can happen anything from as you say pedestrians stepping into the road to just trying to make sure you do not breach the lights on an amber. I was merely pointing out that its wrong to make assumptions as to why that car was in the box without knowing the circumstances. As for the banans comment all new bike helmets look like bananas and if your not wearing one then surely the argument is then mute.

As for insuring cyclists It has to be one of the best ideas ever after twice having to spend out over a thousand pounds in damage repairs because cyclists have run into the rear of my cars. Granted one was an eight year old child who lost control of a brand new bike and hit the car in the driveway, but latter was a thirty something going for the land speed record in Edinburgh and left a 60ft+ skid mark before hitting the rear of my car after the pedestrian who happened to step off the pavement while texting.

I would also like to point out the part in your link
Code:
If the signals change to red when a vehicle is crossing the first line, the driver must stop at the second line

and under safety aspects,
Code:
Although waiting cyclists might be safer out in front of HGVs, concerns have been expressed about nearside cycle lanes approaching such intersections may encourage cyclists to "creep up" on the inside of turning HGVs. Collisions with turning HGVs are strongly associated with a high risk of death and serious injury


You said you do not do it, Fair enough but again it is highlighted on your own provided Wiki

Blame is the easy part, re-education of all road users is the harder part and as far as that goes my employer is constantly updating and testing drivers. We cannot get out on the road without passing advanced driving and hazard perception courses with remedial courses every six months.

These are performed by an outside agency and basically involves a full driving test and three hour theory something even the Police do not do.

Like I said blame is the easy part fixing it is harder

And James,
It is not about picking sides or indeed an argument of any sort it is about highlighting that not just one side is to blame which was the opening generalization of the strange looking bike.

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Cracking looking Lotus    But the brakes on the series one were pure shan so chances are he was braking for the old toilets in Wilson Street
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