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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:17 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Everyone knows that the REAL transport problem to the west of Glasgow is traffic congestion. Not being able to get a train to the airport is, by comparison, a minor inconvenience.

However, with a little joined up thinking, both issues can be dealt with together.

The GARLs' problem was the likely lack of airport passengers (and revenue). SPT said 500,000 / year. Thats 9 per train.

By combining the link to the airport with a congestion relief (park and ride) scheme, extra users and valuable revenue are attracted, thus making the sheme worth building and able to operate without public subsidy.

I am the author of an alternative to GARL and have been promoting it since 2001. Anyone who's interested can obtain a copy of the Scottish Executives report which was done in 2002.

It's a simple idea. A new station on the existing line to Gourock called 'Glasgow Airport' is constructed right beside and just west of St.James road interchange. It would be on your left as you join the M8, heading west, from the roundabout. Light rail trains meet every train and convey passengers right inside the terminal. It's about one mile.
This means that the existing trains will suffice and the St.James playing fields remain unspoiled. Also, ALL the stations on the line get a proper service to the airport (twenty-odd stations) not just Central and Paisley.

The other aspect of the scheme is the construction of a huge park and ride site on the old Council landfill that lies on the southern side of the station site. This can hold 5-6000 cars a day.
Ordinary (not airport related) commuters could leave their cars here for the day and continue into Glasgow by rail. They'd also not have to park in Glasgow all day and could leave in the evening by rail too, thus avoiding the evening rush hour.

The extra park and ride customers add volume and revenue, thus increasing the overall usefulness and value for money of the scheme and hopefully allowing it to operate without subsidy and maybe even make a profit.

Construction cost might be GBP40m overall, less any contribution from the BAA.

It could have been completed by now with the money that's been spent on GARL, and if it had been, not only would you be able to travel to the airport by rail, you'd also have a chance to avoid the M8 rush hour.

I'm still trying to gain support for my plan.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Yes  its worth looking at,the crossrail link being dumped .i also think Glasgow should have a metro ,half the infrastructure is already in place.some lines turned over to light rail and disused lines and tunnels,also the cathcart circle and city union line!if the airport (even on a slump) is still putting £200m more into the Scottish economy than buzy Edinburgh!then our city deseves better than a silly fastlink bendy bus.
the capital has made a dogs dinner of the half a tramline.Glasgow doesnt have to dig up city centre streets all over the place.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Just saw on bbc news eburgh airport to be sold off.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Thank Goodness it's going to be EDI.

That's how it should be.

Now EDI can compete with GLA.
GLA can compete with EDI & PIK.

The rail link issue at GLA has been 'on hold' while this matter awaited resolution.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Yes a form of garl/crossrail would be best .what if they decide the airport can have a link but not in this form.what are the alternitives?it doesnt have to be a grand train station at airport like last plans.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

SON OF GARLS .ideas are cool any others.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

What about getting it up and running and the cathcart circle etc ,neilston.newton converted to light rail .Manchester metro has been granted loan of £500m  from EU European investment bank low rate loans paid over 30yrsThe city is screaming out for it and better placed than any city in uk as the infrastructure is already in place.just an idea.any others.
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I see article in the herald today that brown will have meeting soon about options for new airport link.a tram/train to st james and onto lines beyond.a bus route on m8 ,and extention of fastlink.the bus links to me are a no no.wont make a hoot difference.tram/train makes sence.it would then be backbone of metro for city and could hook up to subway and argyle line.this would not cost the silly money that edin half a tramline for tourists has at a billion pounds.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

ECKYTHUMP wrote:
What about getting it up and running and the cathcart circle etc ,neilston.newton converted to light rail .Manchester metro has been granted loan of £500m †from EU European investment bank low rate loans paid over 30yrsThe city is screaming out for it and better placed than any city in uk as the infrastructure is already in place.just an idea.any others.


This is not a viable option, the Cathcart Circle is an integral part of the West of Scotland Heavy Rail Network, if there is a line blockage or engineering work between Newton and Eglinton Street on the main line, there is currently the option of routing trains via Kings Park and (normally) the outer circle via Maxwell Park.
If you want tram routes use abandoned lines, not existing rail lines.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Alycidon wrote:
ECKYTHUMP wrote:
What about getting it up and running and the cathcart circle etc ,neilston.newton converted to light rail .Manchester metro has been granted loan of £500m †from EU European investment bank low rate loans paid over 30yrsThe city is screaming out for it and better placed than any city in uk as the infrastructure is already in place.just an idea.any others.


This is not a viable option, the Cathcart Circle is an integral part of the West of Scotland Heavy Rail Network, if there is a line blockage or engineering work between Newton and Eglinton Street on the main line, there is currently the option of routing trains via Kings Park and (normally) the outer circle via Maxwell Park.
If you want tram routes use abandoned lines, not existing rail lines.

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