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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 12:11 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Yeah, I was down it years ago... there really isn't anything of interest in it. The old station is a bit more interesting but it's knee deep in pigeon poo
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Stuball wrote:
Away don't talk pish... The forum is Glasgow based so lets keep the main part for Glasgow. I'm well aware that Glasgow is in Lanarkshire.

A couple of years ago, regulars to the forum commented on how things were straying to be non-Glasgow so we started to make sure it was specifically Glasgow with additional sub-forums for non-Glasgow material

I am stating the facts as I see them and when you consider that the first line opened in Glasgow, at Townhead in 1831 came from Gartsherrie in Coatbridge (Lanarkshire) and was operated by the Garnkirk & Glasgow, right from the outset the two have been linked.

I fully understand what you are saying regarding keeping Glasgow and non-Glasgow stuff separate but in this case I think there is a good reason for not doing so. As I said previously where do we draw the invisible line which separates the two systems.

Would the mods who have considerable knowledge of all things railway related please state their opinion and we can get this matter resolved, thanks
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Stuball wrote:
Yeah, I was down it years ago... there really isn't anything of interest in it. The old station is a bit more interesting but it's knee deep in pigeon poo


Aye it's a pisstake how much sh!t is in there. Where does that line go? Looked like from google maps it went down to partick police station then along to partick central maybe?
If so are any of those tunnels still about apart from partick central?
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Marblez wrote:
Stuball wrote:
Away don't talk pish... The forum is Glasgow based so lets keep the main part for Glasgow. I'm well aware that Glasgow is in Lanarkshire.

A couple of years ago, regulars to the forum commented on how things were straying to be non-Glasgow so we started to make sure it was specifically Glasgow with additional sub-forums for non-Glasgow material

I am stating the facts as I see them and when you consider that the first line opened in Glasgow, at Townhead in 1831 came from Gartsherrie in Coatbridge (Lanarkshire) and was operated by the Garnkirk & Glasgow, right from the outset the two have been linked.

I fully understand what you are saying regarding keeping Glasgow and non-Glasgow stuff separate but in this case I think there is a good reason for not doing so. As I said previously where do we draw the invisible line which separates the two systems.

Would the mods who have considerable knowledge of all things railway related please state their opinion and we can get this matter resolved, thanks


Marbelz..... Stu is admin so I think the matter is resolved.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Keith8448 wrote:
Stuball wrote:
Yeah, I was down it years ago... there really isn't anything of interest in it. The old station is a bit more interesting but it's knee deep in pigeon poo


Aye it's a pisstake how much sh!t is in there. Where does that line go? Looked like from google maps it went down to partick police station then along to partick central maybe?
If so are any of those tunnels still about apart from partick central?


This line was part of the Glasgow Central Low Level route network, and that part ran from a triangular junction (two girder bridges over Dumbarton Road) at Partick West then in tunnel to Crow Road, in cutting under the present North Electric line at Hyndland station to Great Western Road (Carriages Restaurant, former Kelvinside station) where it again ran in tunnel under Kelvindale before emerging on embankment ending at another triangular junction and viaducts across the Kelvin into former Maryhill Central station (Co-Op on Dumbarton Road.)

Its also talked about on another railway thread, Abandoned Central low level 1967.

http://urbanglasgow.co.uk/about3419.html
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

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Marbelz..... Stu is admin so I think the matter is resolved.

Fair enough, but can someone clarify where the demarcation line is drawn between Glasgow and Lanarkshire for future clarity ?
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

Like cybers I don't have much interest in the railway stuff but I think common sense should prevail.

We all have a decent idea where the boundary lines are but nobody from here will be pedantic about moving stuff that is just outside of it.

As I said, Common sense.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

To be honest I can see both side of the argument as I have very little interest in the Choo-Choos so am somewhat impartial. I have enjoyed both these threads as i have actually learned some stuff I never knew even though my Da worked on the railways. I hated them and everything to do with them. I will toddle round a historic steam or heritage site but it has more to do with the photography and inventive engineering aspect than anything else. As for the boundary. Meh don't ask me as it could get very stupid very quickly with the argument that King's Cross is O.K just because it goes there.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Mods

I can see both sides too which is why I am trying to give valid reasons for merging the two - eg this thread has 137000 view whereas the Lanarkshire one has just under 10000. For all the content which is in the Lanarkshire one it would seem to me to make more sense to include it with the Glasgow stuff. The problem arises when you have EK, Bothwell, Uddingston, Blantyre, Cambuslang and Rutherglen all having G postcodes yet all are classed as now in Lanarkshire.

There is already loads of information in the Low Level thread that technically belongs in this one, yet it has never been moved. Since both systems were developed to service each other to my mind they belong together. It would not be difficult to start a Part II as the thread is already over 60 pages long and most get curbed around the 30 page mark.

I am just stating the facts as I see them (I am not talking pish - Stu). I am also a regular contributor since I joined and I am well aware that there has to be separation. Do we really need 17 separate threads in the UA&E section covering the various unused rail tunnels under the city ?
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